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dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
Eh, the difference is actually how watered down the booze gets from the ice and it does affect flavor. You only really care if you were like some snobby cocktail aficionado purist but that is really no different from any other kind of aficionado like for wine and the glass you use, cigars and how you cut and light it, or coffee and how you grind and pour it.

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

this guy certainly knew how to be cool and not a complete nerd lol.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
I knew about the shaking cracking up the ice diluting the drink and always just thought it was intentional. So it would look like he's relaxing and having a good time but he's actually drinking vodka flavored water and staying sharp.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I knew about the shaking cracking up the ice diluting the drink and always just thought it was intentional. So it would look like he's relaxing and having a good time but he's actually drinking vodka flavored water and staying sharp.

I've had shaken martinis my entire adult life lol. The ice barely dilutes it, you still get loving poo poo faced. The shaking does make it ice cold though, which is great.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


How drunk you get depends on the total amount of alcohol, not on how diluted it is. The best theory I've heard is that Ian Fleming enjoyed watching female bartenders shake martinis, but I can't find anything online to corroborate that.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

ultrafilter posted:

How drunk you get depends on the total amount of alcohol, not on how diluted it is. The best theory I've heard is that Ian Fleming enjoyed watching female bartenders shake martinis, but I can't find anything online to corroborate that.

Yes. All said and done, the amount that your martini gets diluted is just barely enough to make it not qualify as straight vodka, and that's the only reason you even bother...I'm not a total degenerate.

Teach
Mar 28, 2008


Pillbug

LifeSunDeath posted:


this guy certainly knew how to be cool and not a complete nerd lol.

M Lady.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
FDR had a silver shaker he used to make martinis in for people he hung out with. I don't give a poo poo about the fictional sex and violence man but I support drinking martinis the FDR way.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

LifeSunDeath posted:

Yes but what is the correct pronunciation of the word "sword?"

Easy, its like fjord but with an S

CapitanGarlic
Feb 29, 2004

Much, much more.

xtal posted:

Easy, its like fjord but with an S

what the gently caress is a fjosd

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

CapitanGarlic posted:

what the gently caress is a fjosd

Hell of a Scrabble word with the right placement, that's what

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

The Bloop posted:

Hell of a Scrabble word with the right placement, that's what

well in that case I got "Fjosdzzy"

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

ultrafilter posted:

How drunk you get depends on the total amount of alcohol, not on how diluted it is. The best theory I've heard is that Ian Fleming enjoyed watching female bartenders shake martinis, but I can't find anything online to corroborate that.

My knowledge of bars in the time I'm assuming Fleming boozed in comes entirely from reading massive amounts of crime fiction but I don't think I remember any women bartenders.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


It's a class distinction. By asking for a shaken martini James Bond establishes himself as a member of the working class to the British public

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



For a movie that actually uses dilution and staying sharp as a plot point, may I recommend The Sting.

https://www.shmoop.com/the-sting/gin-symbol.html

Anyway as for whether shaking gets it colder faster, I'd say it probably does, but I did get into a conversation once with a bartender at a nerdy cocktail bar in Jackson WY who told me that once he was asked by a customer to make his martini as cold as it was humanly possible to make it. He said he stirred it for near on 30 minutes, but it was worth it because it got it down to sub-freezing temperatures and the customer tipped well for it. Course now I'm thinking about how much ice he must have gone through in that half hour lool

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Goodpancakes posted:

It's a class distinction. By asking for a shaken martini James Bond establishes himself as a member of the working class to the British public

Northern james bond carrying his plastic bag full of martinis,wearing his trackies,licence to mill (about).

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Villain von Foreignname: No mister Bond, I expect you to DIE!
Onslow Bond: Aww nice!

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Goldfinger: This laser will cut you in half Mr. Bond, the beam is hotter than the sun.

Bond: Why can't it light my ciggie then? You daft oval office.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Goodpancakes posted:

It's a class distinction. By asking for a shaken martini James Bond establishes himself as a member of the working class to the British public

you joke but of course it's the opposite, Fleming wrote Bond as a pastische of the descendants of nobility he despised in the service, people who couldn't remember a cover story or really any tradecraft, but who went to the right school and had the right last name

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Villain von Foreignname: No mister Bond, I expect you to DIE!
Onslow Bond: Aww nice!

“Do you expect me t’ talk?”

“No i expect y’ t’ gently caress off!”

Robert J. Omb
Dec 1, 2005
The 'J' stands for 'AAARRGH!'

Teach posted:

M Lady.

A genuine, heartfelt thanks for this.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Data Graham posted:

For a movie that actually uses dilution and staying sharp as a plot point, may I recommend The Sting.

https://www.shmoop.com/the-sting/gin-symbol.html

Anyway as for whether shaking gets it colder faster, I'd say it probably does, but I did get into a conversation once with a bartender at a nerdy cocktail bar in Jackson WY who told me that once he was asked by a customer to make his martini as cold as it was humanly possible to make it. He said he stirred it for near on 30 minutes, but it was worth it because it got it down to sub-freezing temperatures and the customer tipped well for it. Course now I'm thinking about how much ice he must have gone through in that half hour lool

Just keep a bottle of vodka or gin in the freezer. If the liquor starts at 20F / -5C then it will be super cold.

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get
Casino royale (the movie) has fun with his. He only orders it the fancy way when he’s around people he’s trying to intimidate. Otherwise he just orders a regular martini.

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007


https://twitter.com/demodogz/status/1262656747203735552

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Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.

Ok it took me way too long to understand that it's the masks. I kept trying to understand why Kitana would possibly survive a human virus with all those non-human characters (though technically she's Edenian) while Raiden would die

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Snackmar posted:

Ok it took me way too long to understand that it's the masks. I kept trying to understand why Kitana would possibly survive a human virus with all those non-human characters (though technically she's Edenian) while Raiden would die

It's because they're wearing masks, get it. MASKS

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.

LifeSunDeath posted:

It's because they're wearing masks, get it. MASKS

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007



Why's he have solar panels on his hat?

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Why don't you?

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007


RandomFerret posted:

Why don't you?

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Data Graham posted:

For a movie that actually uses dilution and staying sharp as a plot point, may I recommend The Sting.

https://www.shmoop.com/the-sting/gin-symbol.html

Anyway as for whether shaking gets it colder faster, I'd say it probably does, but I did get into a conversation once with a bartender at a nerdy cocktail bar in Jackson WY who told me that once he was asked by a customer to make his martini as cold as it was humanly possible to make it. He said he stirred it for near on 30 minutes, but it was worth it because it got it down to sub-freezing temperatures and the customer tipped well for it. Course now I'm thinking about how much ice he must have gone through in that half hour lool

Maybe I'm dumb but wouldn't shaking/stirring it for 30 minutes actually warm it up on account of the kinetics?

im pooping!
Nov 17, 2006


i drink the gin straight from the plastic bottle

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Pope Hilarius II posted:

Maybe I'm dumb but wouldn't shaking/stirring it for 30 minutes actually warm it up on account of the kinetics?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


I don't know art but I know what I like.

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

im pooping! posted:

i drink the gin straight from the plastic bottle

Pffft. Look at Mr Fancy-pants with his bottle. I drink it straight from the tap on the box.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Lol if u don't have a gin faucet in your kitchen, your bathroom, your toilet, your vestibule, veranda, lounge, hallway, etc.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




why bother with all that when you can just have Enrique surgically attachstrap one of these to his chest?

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

I knew about the shaking cracking up the ice diluting the drink and always just thought it was intentional. So it would look like he's relaxing and having a good time but he's actually drinking vodka flavored water and staying sharp.
If you actually track how much he's drinking in the books it's, like, a shitload.

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Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

tight aspirations posted:

Pffft. Look at Mr Fancy-pants with his bottle. I drink it straight from the tap on the box.

Oh, we would've loved drinking gin from a box! We had to suck on the bar rag the bartender would discard at the end of his shift, and we were thankful for it!

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