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Speaking of colonisation, what's the best strategy for an early coloniser like Portugal? My instinct is to go with the Native Coexistence Policy so I don't need to garrison places and thus can run my army at zero maintenance in peacetime, and take a valuable colonial region like the Caribbean, then maybe South America. However, is it a better idea to suck up the cost of Native Repression early on since the bonus is proportionally larger in the early game? Or rush down to South Africa and try and dominate there?
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Aug 21, 2020 15:03
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Native Repression is totally worth it for the extra growth. Ferrying little groups of troops around to guard the colonies is annoying but overall not a big deal.
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Aug 21, 2020 15:26
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Now that you can hire native mercs there is very little need to ship dudes to the colonies. You can just raise an army of Indians over there as soon you get a province fully colonized and just leave them to run poo poo
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Aug 21, 2020 15:32
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Poil posted:Colonialism basically spawns as follows: Playing France, it spawned in Bas-Poitou and I had just sent my first colonist into Antilles. Guess my citizens are REALLY eager to  .
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Aug 21, 2020 16:05
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Gort posted:Speaking of colonisation, what's the best strategy for an early coloniser like Portugal?
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Aug 21, 2020 16:09
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I dont have the game running right now so I cant check the proper names of these things, but recently, if i am planning on going Exploration and Expansion, I have liked doing the middle Colonization option that reduces native attacks by 50% and increases native assimilation, because the policy for having both Exploration and Expansion reduces native attacks by another 50%. There’s also a clergy estate interaction that reduces native aggro by 50, you can use that too.
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Aug 21, 2020 16:17
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skasion posted:There’s also a clergy estate interaction that reduces native aggro by 50, you can use that too.
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Aug 21, 2020 16:20
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It would be nice if Lotharingia could actually get the kingdom rank instead of being teased with it because of HRE mechanics:
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Aug 21, 2020 20:30
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Was playing Austria and I forgot to be diplomatic and accidentally converted to reformed and left the HRE and conquered half of Germany. I don't think I'm going to complete the mission tree. 
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Aug 21, 2020 22:36
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Well you can always form Germany and get the achievement for that if you haven't.
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Aug 21, 2020 22:48
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FYI, if you give the nobility four privileges and then take statuatory rights, you can't revoke statuatory rights until you revoke one of the other ones. Woops. Well, 
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Aug 22, 2020 00:14
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:FYI, if you give the nobility four privileges and then take statuatory rights, you can't revoke statuatory rights until you revoke one of the other ones. Woops. Well, edit: Misread this at first, but yeah, giving any estate four privileges will often be tricky unless you pick mostly non-influence-giving privileges. You could always try waiting for a loyalty-giving event to fire and then do an agenda and sell land at the same time. That should be enough.
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Aug 22, 2020 02:55
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:FYI, if you give the nobility four privileges and then take statuatory rights, you can't revoke statuatory rights until you revoke one of the other ones. Woops. Well, You should always actually do this, because you can't revoke it for 25 years anyway. So you always want to max them out with a monopoly first, it's a free point of Mercantilism and you'll have loads of time to revoke that first.
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Aug 22, 2020 03:08
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PittTheElder posted:You should always actually do this, because you can't revoke it for 25 years anyway. So you always want to max them out with a monopoly first, it's a free point of Mercantilism and you'll have loads of time to revoke that first. There is an exception to this, called Poland, as the Sejm give themselves privileges which can easily push statutory rights far to the, well, right.
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Aug 22, 2020 15:38
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Does it seem like the AI is over eager to peace out minor participants in wars, with some cash changing hands? I feel like this was a problem in the past that got fixed, but maybe it's unfixed now. In most cases it would make more sense to keep the enemy forts occupied and not make peace, unless the defeated power is still running around with extra troops.
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Aug 23, 2020 01:30
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Hegemon status giving you -100 relations with your own subjects is truly ridiculous.
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Aug 23, 2020 22:34
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I didn't know the absolutism cap could go negative, or that it brings down the absolution with it. Good thing it doesn't give any penalties. Currently at -25 and now I want to keep diving. 
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Aug 23, 2020 23:26
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Poil posted:I didn't know the absolutism cap could go negative, or that it brings down the absolution with it. Good thing it doesn't give any penalties. Currently at -25 and now I want to keep diving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8xeyaSwCI
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Aug 24, 2020 00:57
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Poil posted:I didn't know the absolutism cap could go negative, or that it brings down the absolution with it. Good thing it doesn't give any penalties. Currently at -25 and now I want to keep diving. Then the winged hussars arrive?
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Aug 24, 2020 01:15
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PittTheElder posted:Hegemon status giving you -100 relations with your own subjects is truly ridiculous. yeah it's completely worthless for singleplayer. i guess it might be useful in multiplayer if there are two superpowers that each hold half the world, but does that even happen?
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Aug 24, 2020 01:40
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i sort of like the massive opinion penalty for hegemon (although i wish I'd known about it before I clicked the button, the first time). You get some serious bonuses from clicking the button, and it stops it being a no-brainer. You dont click it unless you're confident you can tell the rest of the world to kiss your rear end.
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Aug 24, 2020 01:57
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BBJoey posted:yeah it's completely worthless for singleplayer. i guess it might be useful in multiplayer if there are two superpowers that each hold half the world, but does that even happen? Not sure how it's "completely worthless." I had no problem keeping my vassals happy and integrating them with the -100 malus.
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Aug 24, 2020 02:10
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Well it was irritating for me in that when I started acquiring CNs in the end game, and knowing they'll just be disloyal layabouts for the rest of the campaign. Hegemon is only part of that, and they're not going to declare on me and my 1300 Also god drat the Mughals are easy. I'm nearly finished a WC I wasn't even intending to do, it just sort of happened. Even had Shah Rukh die immediately back at the start; if you know what you're doing it slows you down not at all. If I was going to do it again I'd make sure to find room for Religious ideas though; especially since you should convert to Shia anyway for the morale bonus, having a CB on nearly everyone would have been so nice. e: great powers list looking weird  PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 02:40
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What's the best strategy with colonial nations as a Catholic coloniser anyway? Do you just get five contiguous provinces in a colonial region to form the colonial nation, then move onto the next region? Or is it better to fill up a region ASAP?
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Aug 24, 2020 09:35
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I think the most important thing is to subsidize colonial nation so that they send their own colonist they get from their ideas. They will start to fill in their region. Of course you might want to speed this up by colonizing yourself and conquering others. Also there's vassal interaction for asking them to start a colonial war you don't get called into. Also you can give them your claims. You might put two and two together.
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Aug 24, 2020 09:45
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Deffo do the five provinces>CN thing and move on, as Catholic nations are subject to the Treaty of Tor-tor-tortoises and you'll get a nice +10 settler boost in that region if you're first. Conversely, if you're not first you get a settler malus and a hefty opinion modifier with both the Pope and the person you got there first if you dare to colonise. If you're Portugal you might end up provoking Castille by mistake, which might not be optimal. Get all the regions you want, then backfill.
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Aug 24, 2020 11:34
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Playing as the Iroquois and it's going... ok... ish. I'm not sure if I was unlucky or lucky but none of the colonizers went for Canada and I had to slowly snake my way down to Louisiana until I was one province away from the Mexican Gulf before I could reform. At least I got printing press for "free". Surprisingly all the long waiting has only been the second most boring thing so far. Most boring? The colonial nations. They suddenly show up, spread like wildfire quickly gobbling up everything and then... nothing. They just sit there 100% static until the game ends. They don't fight each other (especially not since they're practically ALL Castile, Portugal owns 95% of the Caribbean as usual). They don't fight the natives. They certainly don't change hands as colonizers vie for control of the new world, because they prefer to ally since they are obviously not competing for anything and if they fight it's never about colony land or wealth. They just sit there on their thumbs for hundreds of years. The only time one could do something drastic such as for example declaring independence is if the original country gets utterly curb stomped back in Europe so the cowardly colonialists get a 10-1 numbers advantage or whatever they need to cross above the astronomical 50% mark. Do they take their own and the other colonial nations armies into account as adding to their overlards military strength when comparing or something? Poil fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 11:37
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catholic colonial nations dont get claims according to a post i read once, which is probably why they’re so docile. If you otoh colonize as ming or an indian nation your colony will be ready for war constantly
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Aug 24, 2020 12:36
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PittTheElder posted:Well it was irritating for me in that when I started acquiring CNs in the end game, and knowing they'll just be disloyal layabouts for the rest of the campaign. Hegemon is only part of that, and they're not going to declare on me and my 1300
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Aug 24, 2020 13:36
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The change for Trade Companies to be everywhere not in your super region does silly things once you're master of most of the world.
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Aug 24, 2020 14:45
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For WC, are you stacking autonomy reduction in territories or what? I don't see how you can get that far without making a lot of states, and governing capacity gets in the way.
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Aug 24, 2020 15:18
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I stated basically nothing, capital is in India, India was all stated, along with the area Herat is in so that I could collect in Persia. Everything East of there is TC'd, most places West of there that I couldn't feed into Persia were just left as territories. No autonomy reductions (admin capacity is simply better). I had India and China conquered by about 1650 (could be done much faster) and the trade income that gives was allowing me to run massive armies and have a 400 ducat/month surplus. Trade is very, very strong right now, and the Trade Company investment for Goods Produced is basically an extra manufactory for all your TC territory (most of it). Had to keep spamming courthouses/town halls to stay under the admin limit, but staying under it was not hard. AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:46 merchants?!? TCs are good yo. Also that's after I'd seized a bunch of CNs, so probably a dozen of them are from that? I wasn't even assigning them because I couldn't be bothered to find them a job. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 15:31
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How do people play North American natives? I figured out that turning off Cossacks helps a lot at start to cut down on alliance spam/favours required, but otherwise I have no clue what I should be doing. Also I prioritise the +10 force limit building. As for DLC I have all of it bar Emperor. Every guide I can find is few years out of date at best and doesn't really work anymore. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 16:04
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:For WC, are you stacking autonomy reduction in territories or what? I don't see how you can get that far without making a lot of states, and governing capacity gets in the way. TCs are -50% GC cost. Courthouses are -25% and their upgraded version is -50%. State houses are -20%/-40%. All of these modifiers are additive, and you can see that they exceed 100%. You're granted more than enough GC to create a solid foundation of states for a world conquest. Of course, the micro of actually achieving true -100% across the entire world is too much, but as long as you get all the high dev land, it's generally good enough. You'll be spending the vast majority of your income on courthouses, town halls, and state houses after a while.
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Aug 24, 2020 16:07
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Private Speech posted:How do people play North American natives? I figured out that turning off Cossacks helps a lot at start to cut down on alliance spam/favours required, but otherwise I have no clue what I should be doing. Also I prioritise the +10 force limit building. The +10 force limit building was the only one I skipped because I couldn't afford to max out my army anyway and I got enough from owning provinces.
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Aug 24, 2020 16:13
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Poil posted:No idea about guides or even competent play. I just sat on my butt slowly colonizing towards where I thought the Europeans would first land, made some no-CB wars against neighbors to get their land or vassalage them when I could (annexed them when they migrated up close) and slapped down as many of the income boosting buildings as possible to afford running two colonies and some army at the same time. I mostly ignored teching as much as I could. Did you not have trouble with alliances when fighting wars? It seems like everyone allies everyone else, on top of the tribal federations making wars dicey. I've been hoping to do the "no trail of tears" achievement. I don't know I might try a peaceful playthrough instead, see where it gets me. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 24, 2020 |
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Aug 24, 2020 16:28
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Private Speech posted:Did you not have trouble with alliances when fighting wars? It seems like everyone allies everyone else, on top of the tribal federations making wars dicey. As I said leaving Cossacks out helps cut down on it a bit and lets you use allies offensively from start (which is when they are the most useful anyway).
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Aug 24, 2020 17:04
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Somehow I've gotten myself elected emperor as Lorraine. France (mostly) and I (a little) smacked Austria up pretty good,and Austria had made some weird tiny electors I was able to win over. Now that I'm emperor, I don't know what to do-part of me thinks let's make the empire great but part of me thinks nah gently caress it let's just use this to do my conquering inside the Empire before I turn on France. The religious wars haven't started yet and I'm not sure I feel like navigating all that as emperor?
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Aug 24, 2020 18:20
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:TCs are -50% GC cost. Courthouses are -25% and their upgraded version is -50%. State houses are -20%/-40%. All of these modifiers are additive, and you can see that they exceed 100%. You're granted more than enough GC to create a solid foundation of states for a world conquest. The downside is spending ages deleting the AI's crappy buildings one by one to free slots
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Of course, the micro of actually achieving true -100% across the entire world is too much, but as long as you get all the high dev land, it's generally good enough. You'll be spending the vast majority of your income on courthouses, town halls, and state houses after a while. It's true. It'd be nice if the macro builder let us delete buildings too
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