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orangelex44 posted:There's literally one for just playing to the last year! this would be the hardest achievement for me
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orangelex44 posted:There's achievements for a ton of things that people will do just by playing the game. There's literally one for just playing to the last year! There's another one for just going up in rank (count->duke or whatever). From CK2, the most annoying achievements imo were the 3 for playing to the final year in the 3 traditional bookmarks. By 1400 or so there's usually not much to do in the game. In my Zoroastrian restoration game I just put it on max speed in ~1380 or so and watched a movie and clicked through events as I had already made the Neo-Persian Empire, conquered Rome+Constantinople, put my dynasty on the Chinese throne, and became the head of the Satanic cult. There was nothing left to do but wait. I also had something like 600 hours in CK2 so by the end of my time with it I had gotten very good at breaking the game over my knee.
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Aug 25, 2020 15:54
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orangelex44 posted:There's achievements for a ton of things that people will do just by playing the game. There's literally one for just playing to the last year! There's another one for just going up in rank (count->duke or whatever). Yes, I've mentioned them as "something fun people might do". Achievement lists often work as feature advertisement. You can quickly see that this game has inbreeding, spouse murdering, faith construction, and so on. Even Crusades achievement is there to highlight that there are great holy wars apart from Crusades.
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Aug 25, 2020 16:09
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orangelex44 posted:There's achievements for a ton of things that people will do just by playing the game. There's literally one for just playing to the last year! There's another one for just going up in rank (count->duke or whatever). Cheevos are used as a way of gauging when people dropped off a game or mechanics they didn't bother with, odds and sods devs can then tweak or note for the next game. They're not entirely for the player's sense of accomplishment. I'm sure you could go pick a random steam game and infer how many people actually completed it purely by looking at the achievements.
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Aug 25, 2020 16:12
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orangelex44 posted:There's achievements for a ton of things that people will do just by playing the game. There's literally one for just playing to the last year! After many hundreds of hours I have still not achieved that. But of course the easier achievements are in there so everyone can have some however crap they are, which is good.
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Aug 25, 2020 16:13
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Dwesa posted:I am assuming three generations of sibling parents. Yep. Most of us have 2 parents, 4 grandparents and 8 great-grandparents. The achievement is requesting a character that has 2 parents, 2 grandparents and 2 great-grandparents. The "counting absent ancestors as individual characters" thing is basically saying that if both your parents are fresh gens with a parent of "Unknown" then the achievement assumes that they're the children of two different unknowns rather than incest-by-default. That seems somewhat pointless to qualify in a normal game, but I guess this is CK.
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Aug 25, 2020 16:15
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wit posted:Cheevos are used as a way of gauging when people dropped off a game or mechanics they didn't bother with, odds and sods devs can then tweak or note for the next game. They're not entirely for the player's sense of accomplishment. I'm sure you could go pick a random steam game and infer how many people actually completed it purely by looking at the achievements. Which doesn't really work for Paradox games because they require Ironman...maybe they'll drop that this time around?
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Aug 25, 2020 16:22
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Pravus is premiering now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGlmbjSCStk And here is OPB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jaMw0o9274
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Aug 25, 2020 17:03
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Yeah I have 255 hours in CK2 and 0 achievements unlocked, who needs achievements when there are so many mods to choose from?
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Aug 25, 2020 17:06
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Here's all of them: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_3rLv22kp6TJGpYqtG0HHuq7phA0slJT
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Aug 25, 2020 17:06
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looks like they were limited to about 20 minutes. some random things from the quill18 stream: * his character was a secret witch * crusade mechanics * war looks like the standard paradox chaotic whack-a-mole  * when the crusade was over he was given the option to switch and play as the new king of jerusalem (his cousin)
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Aug 25, 2020 17:22
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fuf posted:looks like they were limited to about 20 minutes. A couple of the streams on the playlist LordMune linked have already run longer than that (Spiffing Brit/Lionheart/Enter Elysium).
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Aug 25, 2020 17:34
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Yeah, I think the 20 minute thing is one of those youtube seo "optimal video length" things
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Aug 25, 2020 17:43
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Spiffing already exploiting endless divorce/marriage for huge prestige boons. Balance is gonna be hilarious on launch.
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Aug 25, 2020 17:58
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Chalks posted:Yeah, I think the 20 minute thing is one of those youtube seo "optimal video length" things I dunno, One Proud Bavarian does like 3 hour videos on every single dev diary, there's no way he wouldn't put out something way longer if he could...
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Aug 25, 2020 18:08
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26. Kings to the Seventh Generation: starting as Count Eudes of Anjou in 867, lead your dynasty to rule the Kingdom of France. 20. Frankokratia: as a French Catholic, hold and completely control the Kingdom of Thessalonika without holding or being vassalised to the Byzantine Empire. 21. From Rags to Riches: starting as a count, lead your line to rule an empire. 32. Moving up in the World: increase your rank. /\ Well I guess that’s my generic Catholic start for first full game after making Ireland in the tutorial. Speaking of, this is guaranteeing that I’ll do the tutorial: 46. The Emerald Isle: starting as an Irish ruler, hold the Kingdom of Ireland. Also, it’s not just 5 sites?: 43. Seven Holy Cities: as a Hindu ruler, hold all seven Hindu holy sites at the same time.
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Aug 25, 2020 19:08
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fuf posted:I dunno, One Proud Bavarian does like 3 hour videos on every single dev diary, there's no way he wouldn't put out something way longer if he could... There are at least four videos that go over 20 minutes.
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Aug 25, 2020 19:20
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Does anyone know if 1066 starts have pre-assigned Dynasty paths (I think that’s what they’re called? Like L2 Blood, Kin, etc), and if so are they randomized or anything?
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Aug 25, 2020 19:26
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The North Tower posted:Does anyone know if 1066 starts have pre-assigned Dynasty paths (I think that’s what they’re called? Like L2 Blood, Kin, etc), and if so are they randomized or anything? I believe the information I saw on the discord was no, they wouldn't, but certain dynasties would start with like 900 points so they could assign one very shortly after the game's start.
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Aug 25, 2020 19:27
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Airspace posted:There are at least four videos that go over 20 minutes. sure and I mean it's not a hill I wanna die on but I still bet paradox gave them some kind of time restrictions otherwise they would've put out longer videos for sure
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Aug 25, 2020 19:47
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What patch is everyone waiting for before buying the game? I'm thinking 1.2. Imperator is finally looking alright at patch 1.5 but I keep forgetting to add it to my Steam wishlist.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:17
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I'm going to start out playing on day one with Game Pass. Depending on how well it goes I'll probably go ahead and buy the deluxe package on Steam sometime ahead of the first DLC because if I'm having fun I'll want Paradox to have money to keep making the game.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:20
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1.1 will probably hit shortly after release. I think I saw dev saying that 1.0 was finished before their vacations, so August was spent on the first patch.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:22
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Yeah trying it out on gamepass first is a no brainer unless you really want..some outfits from the HRE.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:27
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i've already preordered the game and took a day off work so i can spend all day playing it my boss asked "for the stated reason to take a day, you just put 'video games'... really?" and i said yes, absolutely
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Aug 25, 2020 20:33
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I'm going to be playing from day one because really I don't see any scenario where I don't enjoy it for at least a few dozen hours or so, also I want to get started on learning to mod it. I have some ideas I'd like to try out, and I found Stellaris modding to be easy enough to learn after doing some Civ 6 modding in the past.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:36
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Yeah getting in on the ground floor of PDS games is fun when looking back years later. Plus these are the last games I really care too much about being well balanced.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:42
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I think it is the first game I've ever pre-ordered, I'm going to be playing it asap. I won't mind if it isn't yet as good as CK2, I'm just looking forward to seeing the new ideas, so I should enjoy at least a few hours with it. Just as long as it runs on my machine, anyway (unlike Horizon Zero Dawn, alas).
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Aug 25, 2020 20:44
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Zeron posted:Yeah trying it out on gamepass first is a no brainer unless you really want..some outfits from the HRE. Lol if you don't want more outfits
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Aug 25, 2020 20:53
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Wyld Karde posted:I'm going to start out playing on day one with Game Pass. Depending on how well it goes I'll probably go ahead and buy the deluxe package on Steam sometime ahead of the first DLC because if I'm having fun I'll want Paradox to have money to keep making the game. Yeah this is normally a situation where I'd "vote" with my wallet and show that I want more games like this, but gamepass is too cheap and easy to pass up, and this game being on it was the tipping point for me to sign up. I'll definitely buy it (and lots of DLC) later if it's not trash.
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I already bought the game on steam because all the dev diaries looked solid and I knew I was going to play a lot of the game. It being on gamepass is pretty nice though because i have several friends who tried ck2 after I raved about it but bounced off, and they're probably going to give ck3 a look since it's so cheap to do.
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Aug 25, 2020 21:02
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Watched Proud Bavarian's video and gently caress this game looks good. I'm ready as all hell.
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Aug 25, 2020 21:23
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Lawman 0 posted:What are muslim mechanics like? Their big thing is that most of them have the clan government type. The main distinction from feudalism is that vassal contributions are based more (or entirely?) on opinion. They also get a once-in-a-lifetime kingdom invasion casus belli when a ruler achieves the highest level of fame. From what I've seen, they don't get to skip over partition succession types in this game.
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Lawman 0 posted:What are muslim mechanics like? We don't know many specifics, though Muslim realms tend to be clan rather than feudal which means they don't have vassal contracts and instead contribute taxes/levies based on opinion and it is somehow encouraged for you to place your dynasty in charge of territory. I imagine the rest will depend on the specifics of each Muslim faith, as CK3's religion system is much more robust than CK2's.
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CK2's Iqta mechanics were always a big letdown, being essentially Feudalism But Green. Hopefully this will be a bit more interesting. Or they'll put some more structure into it in a DLC.
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GHOST_BUTT posted:Lol if you don't want more outfits CK3 even lets you customize your outfits in the barbershop, a feature that II was notably lacking. What's the point of conquering half of Europe if not for a series of increasingly elaborate hats?
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Aug 25, 2020 21:46
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If I remember correctly there was also a thing with muslim rulers where your vassals expect to be married into your dynasty so over the course of generations your vassals are all getting claims to the throne
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Can Muslims still own temple holdings?
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Pylons posted:Can Muslims still own temple holdings? Yes, it was confirmed on the dev stream they've been doing
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