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okay, here's a relevant collection of wobs someone compiled: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/91480-renarins-ilumination/#comment-1042063 it's something like "Shallan's illumination shows them their ideal self somehow" and people who remember more than me are talking about how what renarin's doing is very similar to allomantic gold https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/91676-row-chapter-8-discussion/#comment-1050470 eke out fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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eke out posted:and people who remember more than me are talking about how what renarin's doing is very similar to allomantic gold https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/91676-row-chapter-8-discussion/#comment-1050470 Seems more like malatium to me.
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Aug 25, 2020 19:36
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Anshu posted:Seems more like malatium to me. It's similar to both - the difference in them is whether the allomancer sees themself (gold) or others (malatium/11th metal). In this situation the figment was visible to everyone, so it's like targeted, publicly-viewable malatium from the perspective of Renarin being the one utilizing investiture.
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Aug 25, 2020 20:48
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Think I might have caught some foreshadowing in the preview chapter. In one of the other books Moash had brown/tan eyes (same as Amaram's), but now they're dark green. Since Windrunners are the sapphire order and their eyes and armor are both blue, I wonder if that indicates that Moash is some kind of void-Truthwatcher.
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Aug 25, 2020 22:20
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eke out posted:it's weird because this kind of "showing someone a perfected version of themself" is very much what Shallan's version of Illumination has done, which makes it seem almost too normal for Renarin's weird poo poo This happened in a very brief moment early on in Oathbringer when Renarin was figuring out how to use his powers: Chapter 10 in Oathbringer posted:Renarin only stared at that glowing hand, and didn't seem convinced. So Adolin reached out with his good hand and took Renarin's, holding it. I think this is Renarin's corrupted Truthwatcher resonance between Progression and Illumination. My reading of Shallan's version is that it's her Lightweaver resonance between Illumination and Transformation - i.e. she shows people a version of who they could be via Illumination, and the power of that vision draws on Transformation to help them become a better version of themselves. In this case, Renarin's resonance happens as a side affect of him healing someone via Progression. Since healing in Cosmere works by drawing upon someone's spiritual perception of them, Renarin's healing helps them see a better version of themself - perhaps unconsciously. Remember in the Rysn Oathbringer interlude, Renarin was unable to heal her legs because it'd been long enough that she began to see her broken legs as part of herself, in the same way that Kaladin sees his slave brand as part of himself. Also, I'm sad that there was no love for continued mathematical puns in the read-along discussion: He did so, every tenth block. She moved along to each one until, on the third try, the stone wiggled. “Here,” she said. “In the corner. I think this is right.” “Mmm…” he said. “A few degrees off, so technically acute.”
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Aug 26, 2020 00:32
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gently caress I didn't even pick up on that when I first read it lmao
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Aug 26, 2020 03:10
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according to the subreddit the eye color is just a typo
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Aug 26, 2020 03:43
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I thought using a "dead" Shardblade changed the users eyes into a lighter shade over time?
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Aug 26, 2020 05:07
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Dikkfor posted:I thought using a "dead" Shardblade changed the users eyes into a lighter shade over time? It does, but Moash gave up his Shardblade early in Oathbringer when the Fused attacked Graves' caravan, after which his eyes returned to their normal shade, and it's unclear what effect Honorblades (one of which he currently possesses) have on the eye color of the bearer. On the topic of "what color are his eyes really?", here's what Moash's page on The Coppermind has to say: 
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Aug 26, 2020 07:01
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Are the Mistborn Era 1 books worth finishing? I really liked the first one, but I've heard a lot of people say that the next two aren't as good. The one thing that keeps me interested is Sazed, as I really liked his character as someone with a religious studies degree. That said, I would hate to go through hundreds of pages of boring poo poo just for the nuggets of him being a great character. Should I just read the Era 2 books, which I hear are much better? A bit late but I'd say yes they're worth reading. Esp if you want to read Sazed's story. The first book is this weird heist story and the other two are quite a bit different but if you enjoyed the first one, the other two are fine. You could always just stop if you hate them
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Anshu posted:It does, but Moash gave up his Shardblade early in Oathbringer when the Fused attacked Graves' caravan, after which his eyes returned to their normal shade, and it's unclear what effect Honorblades (one of which he currently possesses) have on the eye color of the bearer. In WoK the first Szeth interlude said that summoning his blade would make his eyes go "pale sapphire". Yeroc2 fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Aug 26, 2020 23:21
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Yeroc2 posted:In WoK the first Szeth interlude said that summoning his blade would make his eyes go "pale sapphire". Granted. Do any of the randos who get hold of his Oathstone before the Diagram catch up to him comment on his eye color? I don't remember. If he was walking around lighteyed just from having it bonded you'd think they would have noticed.
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Aug 27, 2020 07:19
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I believe it only changes when he has the sword drawn
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Aug 27, 2020 11:26
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25% Lopen PoV? Where can I buy this?? Shut up and take my money!
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Aug 27, 2020 11:34
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This makes me so happy!!! Scheduling in a binge re-read of ALL THE STORMLIGHT books beginning 1 October. I would start 1 Nov but I want to do NaNoWriMo this year and binge reading will leave me no writing time.
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Aug 27, 2020 11:44
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Anshu posted:Granted. Do any of the randos who get hold of his Oathstone before the Diagram catch up to him comment on his eye color? I don't remember. If he was walking around lighteyed just from having it bonded you'd think they would have noticed. It seems like only the dead shardblades permanently change your eye color lighter. An honor blade or a living shardblade only makes your eyes light when its drawn, then they go back to normal.
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Aug 27, 2020 13:42
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Caveat on that: the effect lasts for a few hours, see Kaladin in the Kholinar arc in Oathbringer when they are trying to infiltrate the lighteyes.
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Aug 27, 2020 14:25
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Finished Wax & Wayne 2 after slamming through 1 while camping the other weekend. Late nights by the fire are the best reading time. I really need to move into a house with a fireplace
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Aug 27, 2020 15:20
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Subvisual Haze posted:It seems like only the dead shardblades permanently change your eye color lighter. An honor blade or a living shardblade only makes your eyes light when its drawn, then they go back to normal. I don't want to go looking, but there was a question about this at one of the signings and he said exactly that. Dead shardblades do it permanently, otherwise it's only when drawn or for a short time after.
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Aug 27, 2020 17:31
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So does the Stormlight fandom go in for ship names? Because I'm rather pleased with the one I came up with: "Sylphratternization"
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Aug 31, 2020 17:11
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Kalashwi or Leshwadin?
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Aug 31, 2020 18:10
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Jasnadin seems most likely, I don’t expect it for several books though.
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Aug 31, 2020 20:53
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Kaladepressed
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Aug 31, 2020 21:18
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There are so many people rooting for Jasnadin since Oathbringer. Leshwadin would be way more interesting!
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Leng posted:There are so many people rooting for Jasnadin since Oathbringer. Isn’t a Leshwadin situation how you ended up with horneaters? We need more of them.
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Aug 31, 2020 23:15
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Have we ever even seen Jasnah and Kaladin interact?
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smertrioslol posted:Isn’t a Leshwadin situation how you ended up with horneaters? We need more of them. Yep! Herdazians too. Velius posted:Have we ever even seen Jasnah and Kaladin interact? Yes! There's one significant interaction in Oathbringer that's often cited by Jasnadin fans as proof of their chemistry: Oathbringer posted:Dalinar took a deep breath. “Jasnah, you have a suggestion of where to start this plan?” The exchange ends with: Oathbringer posted:“We need to go even farther, Uncle,” Jasnah said. “We need to watch the movements of the Voidbringers. Our only hope is to defeat their armies so soundly that even if their leaders are constantly reborn, they lack the manpower to overwhelm us.”
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I want Jasnah and Kaladin to happen just so I can read the endless enlightened takes about the inherently problematic nature of a woman in her 30s having a relationship with a man under 25 (his brain isn't fully developed!)
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How well does someone with S.A.D. and depression combo with someone who at her best qualifies as arrogant and emotionally distant?
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Sep 1, 2020 17:39
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They don't, launch Kaladin into the sun and give me Szasnah.
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Sep 1, 2020 17:42
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Jasnah x Sazed, go big or go home shippers.
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Sep 1, 2020 17:47
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Kaladin x Happiness One day it'll be canon.
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Sep 1, 2020 18:06
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Jasnah is a strong independent woman who don't need no man 
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Space Butler posted:Kaladin x Happiness Pairings should have at least some basis on the story, yours has none
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Sep 1, 2020 18:31
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Kaloash
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feel like the preview chapters are increasingly raising the question what the gently caress could ~8 year old Shallan have done that was so much worse than what we already know she did, killing both parents? especially now that, in today's chapter, she implies that Pattern doesn't know -- so something before she became a baby radiant of all the wild theories i think i'm on team "Shallan somehow isn't actually Shallan" and is some kind of cuckoo, since it's hard to imagine what more fundamental lie could exist at such an early stage in her life. possibly somehow setup or encouraged by the ghostbloods due to their particular interest in her family, even though we really don't know why her family matters (and there's also a WOB that an Unmade was directly influencing them)
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Sep 1, 2020 18:51
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Yeah remember she had Pattern and had sworn her oath before any of the flashbacks we've seen her in thus far.
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Radiant had no reply. And deep within Shallan, something else stirred. Formless. She had told herself that she would never create a new persona, and she wouldn’t. Formless wasn’t real. GOD drat IT WOMAN. I won’t let them use my honor against me. And… Stonefalls. I say things like that, and…” Have they used 'Stonefalls' as a curse before? Seems weird given what happens in OB... Not a whole ton in this chapter. I want more of The Mink
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Shallan is actually a Kandra, you heard it here first.
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