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https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1298435724857839617
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Aug 26, 2020 06:47
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Can't wait for a hot war with us caught in the middle and occupied by one or both of the powers then reduced to a glass ocean. Thanks gradenko, you always know how to cheer me up. 
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Aug 26, 2020 07:01
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everything is black and white so we gotta choose sides like a football match like it matters, revolutionary tankie or pro interventionalist liberal? will you accept, on your moral conscience, of siding for the team that has killed 1 million dead iraqis or 1 million dead uighurs? there's no middle grounds in a revolution, its either capitalism or communism scandinavian system is ok i guess
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Aug 26, 2020 07:20
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Kill All Cops posted:scandinavian system is ok i guess that's still capitalism, and is still contingent on a system of transfers of wealth and resources out from the Global South
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Aug 26, 2020 07:28
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:31 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Aug 26, 2020 07:33
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Throatwarbler posted:Join up with your Uyghur bretheren to ethnically cleanse Shias and Christians from Syria. The United States thanks you for your service. Unless this thread is full of caliphate fans that you are referring to, this post is in extremely loving bad taste. Associating people who are worried about the ethnicity in abstract with the individuals who went to Syria is just designating them as a terrorist people. And that is unashamed justification for genocide, cultural or otherwise, because what else could one do about a terrorist people? In conclusion, this is straight-up netanyahuposting, I would be terrified if you were a Chinese official. Kill All Cops posted:everything is black and white so we gotta choose sides like a football match like it matters, revolutionary tankie or pro interventionalist liberal? I'm glad someone is talking about what I tried to talk about, but the teams aren't nearly that simplistic. I would just like to hear about a real existing faction in the struggle that genuinely deserves support. You know how people who say "Trump bad" without going any further are really telling others to "vote blue no matter who"? "China bad" works the same way, it means "support anyone putting pressure on China" unless it's specified otherwise. Who are the good resistance that I should support? It doesn't matter if they're small and weak, or don't aspire for anything like communism, they just have to be progressive in relation to what exists there right now. And we should be in agreement about that the bar to be better isn't terribly high, even though we disagree on how low exactly it is. I'm not at all implying that factions worthy of supporting don't exist, I'm pointing at how literally no one has bothered to do the work to find one faction that they could confidently name and tell people to support. That's the big hint that no one in this thread has actually shown any solidarity with the Uyghurs yet: everyone has been concerned about using them as accessories to fashion themselves an online look or some intellectual wanking material. uncop has issued a correction as of 07:57 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Aug 26, 2020 07:45
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uncop posted:Who are the good resistance that I should support? It doesn't matter if they're small and weak, or don't aspire for anything like communism, they just have to be progressive in relation to what exists there right now. And we should be in agreement about that the bar to be better isn't terribly high, even though we disagree on how low exactly it is. I'm not at all implying that factions worthy of supporting don't exist, I'm pointing at how literally no one has bothered to do the work to find one faction that they could confidently name and tell people to support. try critical support of falun gong, they good
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Aug 26, 2020 07:57
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Let me remind some people the Nazis didn't originally intend to kill all the Jews. They wanted to maximize the use of the Jew labor by kept them working while gave them the minimal amount of food There was a British colonial study in India of how little calories you could give a person while keep him working for 12 hour, 14 hour a day from a few decades earlier. And the answer they got was like 700 calories a day or something insane low number. The Nazis was awared of it and designed their camps around this idea. I think killing a bunch of minority population off ultimately doesn't make sense for a government unless the government is very religious or radicalized. Or in the Nazis case, knew they won't be in power for long and wanted to do all the terrible things when they still could.
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Aug 26, 2020 08:19
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Kill All Cops posted:will you accept, on your moral conscience, of siding for the team that has killed 1 million dead iraqis or 1 million dead uighurs? *the use of the word which means actively killing and mass murdering people
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Aug 26, 2020 08:37
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stephenthinkpad posted:Let me remind some people the Nazis didn't originally intend to kill all the Jews. They wanted to maximize the use of the Jew labor by kept them working while gave them the minimal amount of food
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Aug 26, 2020 09:03
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stephenthinkpad posted:Let me remind some people the Nazis didn't originally intend to kill all the Jews. They wanted to maximize the use of the Jew labor by kept them working while gave them the minimal amount of food You're talking about working people to death. They studied getting the most out of people who are being worked to death, how to preserve their basic capacity to work while they burn out their body's energy reserves in a span of months or possibly even over a year, keel over and die because their bodies started catabolizing their vital organs for sustenance. Feed people too little, and they become unhealthy and weak long before they run out of their actual energy reserves. Yes, you can work people to death without aiming to kill every last one of them. It just requires you to split society into two: one side reproduces people and fills them with energy reserves, the other captures them and works them until they run out of reserves and die. It's like the most basic form of genocide that has been part and parcel of colonialism: one just robs the people the exact same way they rob the land. If China was working people to death as policy, we would be seeing such an incredible amount of corpses being carried off to mass graves that unless all those mass graves that should be able to accommodate hundreds of thousands of people have been dug indoors, spy satellites would have an easy time finding dirt on the Chinese.
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Aug 26, 2020 09:18
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comedyblissoption posted:the US is actively supporting a bipartisan mass genocide* in yemen right now Kill All Cops posted:Or lol genocide is happening everywhere look at Amerrikkka and Israel. Fascism everywhere! China did nothing uniquely evil. Yemen. see also palestinians/kurds, south america marginalized peopel are across the globe, but this is only the east asia thread, where anytime uighurs or hk protesters get mentioned cspam love to associate them with nazis or NED or zenz or abbas or whatever so we can slap a boogieman and call them the bad side, and anyone trying to raise discussion has an imperialist agenda and is promoting western hegemony, cos look what america is doing etc etc and the cspam content cycle never stops how about if i never lived in america? weird thought, i know gradenko_2000 posted:that's still capitalism, and is still contingent on a system of transfers of wealth and resources out from the Global South ye
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Aug 26, 2020 09:19
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ian miles cheong is living proof that u dont need to live in america or even be white to cheerlead its worst policies hth
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Aug 26, 2020 09:39
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uncop posted:I'm glad someone is talking about what I tried to talk about, but the teams aren't nearly that simplistic. I would just like to hear about a real existing faction in the struggle that genuinely deserves support. You know how people who say "Trump bad" without going any further are really telling others to "vote blue no matter who"? "China bad" works the same way, it means "support anyone putting pressure on China" unless it's specified otherwise. Who are the good resistance that I should support? It doesn't matter if they're small and weak, or don't aspire for anything like communism, they just have to be progressive in relation to what exists there right now. And we should be in agreement about that the bar to be better isn't terribly high, even though we disagree on how low exactly it is. well there's china labor bulletin: https://clb.org.hk/ however going by .hk domain and the fact they were involved in the jasic thing means they're probably next on the chopping block
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Aug 26, 2020 09:40
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Kunster posted:https://twitter.com/marauder1008/status/1298411179556122625 he says in these screenshots he cant use a vpn to hop over the firewall any more so im guessing he had a stern talking to from ??? so its a little more than just anxiety lol
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Aug 26, 2020 10:31
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Even Hu Xijin once said its ok to use VPN. Not to mention people in the US are going to need to use VPN soon to use Wechat. Even people like Ju Zhuo started his official channel on youtube recently. This is dumb.
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Aug 26, 2020 11:19
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Kill All Cops posted:marginalized peopel are across the globe, but this is only the east asia thread, where anytime uighurs or hk protesters get mentioned cspam love to associate them with nazis or NED or zenz or abbas or whatever so we can slap a boogieman and call them the bad side, and anyone trying to raise discussion has an imperialist agenda and is promoting western hegemony, cos look what america is doing etc etc and the cspam content cycle never stops lol imagine thinking hk protestors are marginalized because their government is preventing them from lighting people on fire and beating innocent people to death with bricks
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Aug 26, 2020 11:30
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hah yeah, asia's finest sure needed old daddy xi to enact the national security law to take down some street thugs throwing molotovs in a city where triads run rampant
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Aug 26, 2020 11:52
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Kill All Cops posted:hah yeah, asia's finest sure needed old daddy xi to enact the national security law to take down some street thugs throwing molotovs in a city where triads run rampant i mean yes, apparently they did. how many people should the murderous western backed separatists be allowed to murder before a government is allowed to protect its people?
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Aug 26, 2020 11:57
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uninterrupted posted:i mean yes, apparently they did. how many people should the murderous western backed separatists be allowed to murder before a government is allowed to protect its people? lol holy poo poo
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Aug 26, 2020 11:58
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Kill All Cops posted:https://twitter.com/BigBrother_Bot/status/1298354508901298180 wow look at this rear end in a top hat trying to shame sexpats an extremely arbitrary and nonexistent kind of white person that this thread just manufactured out of the ether because we are all ccp loving tankies
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Aug 26, 2020 12:09
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stephenthinkpad posted:Let me remind some people the Nazis didn't originally intend to kill all the Jews. They wanted to maximize the use of the Jew labor by kept them working while gave them the minimal amount of food is there any particular reason why ughyur discussion always jumps straight to these kinds of nightmare hypothetical scenarios instead of just you know comparing them to the experience of other ethnic minorities in china who to the best of my knowledge have not been genocided or forced to work in slave labor camps
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Aug 26, 2020 12:12
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uninterrupted posted:i mean yes, apparently they did. how many people should the murderous western backed separatists be allowed to murder before a government is allowed to protect its people? HK was truly a lawless wasteland of murder before the NSL. Just like my Kung Fu movies.
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Aug 26, 2020 12:33
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je1 healthcare posted:The US government also doesn't impose a one-child restriction on african-americans, and promotes affirmative action, therefore how can they be systematically racist? but China enforced the child restrictions on the mainland long before this current one, this argument doesnt make sense
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Aug 26, 2020 12:39
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Some Guy TT posted:is there any particular reason why ughyur discussion always jumps straight to these kinds of nightmare hypothetical scenarios instead of just you know comparing them to the experience of other ethnic minorities in china who to the best of my knowledge have not been genocided or forced to work in slave labor camps I don't think compare Uyghurs to WW2 Jews make sense either. But I think comparing Uyghers to Kashmir Muslims treatment by the Indian government is fair.
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Aug 26, 2020 12:45
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stephenthinkpad posted:I don't think compare Uyghurs to WW2 Jews make sense either. But I think comparing Uyghers to Kashmir Muslims treatment by the Indian government is fair. Kashmir has been under total lockdown since November, this is Tibet 2.0
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Aug 26, 2020 12:56
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https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1298450402254491648?p=v literally the only concession he gave them is agreeing to have peace talks at all
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Aug 26, 2020 13:03
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uninterrupted posted:ignoring basically any western claims that weren’t made for intergovernmental consumption is a necessity, as tibet and tienanmen square objectively proved. I don't think you know what the word 'objectively' means...and that's bad because you use it incorrectly a lot. Tibet is another example of Chinese imperialism. Much like Xinjiang, the region is too far gone to be helped by outside forces without causing more harm than good. What was done there and is still being done there is hosed up tho.
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Aug 26, 2020 13:46
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uninterrupted posted:i mean yes, apparently they did. how many people should the murderous western backed separatists be allowed to murder before a government is allowed to protect its people? You have disappeared entirely up your own rear end. Holy poo poo.
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Aug 26, 2020 13:53
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NaanViolence posted:I don't think you know what the word 'objectively' means...and that's bad because you use it incorrectly a lot. tell us more about how tibetans yearn to return to serfdom under the lamas in a Democratic Feudal Theocracy
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Aug 26, 2020 13:56
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There are more than two options. Taiwan was a lovely independent nation too for decades after the CCW but they rid themselves of dictatorship and got massively better over time. Now they're an awesome independent democracy. Tibet never had that chance.
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Aug 26, 2020 14:03
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THS posted:you are absolutely my favorite poster in cspam. this fuckin owns thank you Thank you friend. I love Taiwan and I don't want it to be ruined by the CCP or anyone else.
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Aug 26, 2020 14:11
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uninterrupted posted:tell us more about how tibetans yearn to return to serfdom under the lamas in a Democratic Feudal Theocracy They are much happier as an oppressed minority group in their homeland watching their cultural history be slowly erased and their supply chains be dominated by Han. You are right, everything is perfect.
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Aug 26, 2020 14:48
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NaanViolence posted:There are more than two options. Taiwan was a lovely independent nation too for decades after the CCW but they rid themselves of dictatorship and got massively better over time. Now they're an awesome independent democracy. so you think tibetans should have stayed serfs and not overthrown their government with the help of china, on the offchance their feudal lords decided that owning people was no longer rad, thanks for clearing that up.
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Aug 26, 2020 14:48
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:They are much happier as an oppressed minority group in their homeland watching their cultural history be slowly erased and their supply chains be dominated by Han. lol at the state dept groupies parachuting in to say “being enslaved is part of tibetan culture”
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Aug 26, 2020 14:50
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uninterrupted posted:tell us more about how tibetans yearn to return to serfdom under the lamas in a Democratic Feudal Theocracy Again this argument would work better if the ccp didn't have their own party loyal lama
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Aug 26, 2020 14:59
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is wanting to start a caliphate more or less traditional ughyur culture than just doing whatever the current ruling power says and trying to keep their heads low
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Aug 26, 2020 15:04
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uninterrupted posted:i mean yes, apparently they did. how many people should the murderous western backed separatists be allowed to murder before a government is allowed to protect its people? its ok when murderous eastern backed fascists murder/maim journalists/medics in the pretense of the government protecting its people though, am I reading between the lines clear on your stance? its weird living in a city where everyone is more scared of the cops than protesters and this guy on the internet is telling me otherwise
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Aug 26, 2020 15:07
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Kill All Cops posted:its weird living in a city where everyone is more scared of the cops than protesters and this guy on the internet is telling me otherwise if you posted anywhere else in cspam other than this thread i think youd probably confuse a lot of people very quickly
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Aug 26, 2020 15:09
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uninterrupted posted:lol at the state dept groupies parachuting in to say “being enslaved is part of tibetan culture” Yes, nobody in the world makes a decision without the US Government or CCP approving it. You are the big brain here. What is it like to be so right when everyone else is so wrong? Is it lonely? Ferdinand the Bull has issued a correction as of 15:42 on Aug 26, 2020 |
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Aug 26, 2020 15:24
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