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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

thespaceinvader posted:

I looked and I couldn't work out where to find that information.

That's terrifying but unsurprising given I've been here for a decade, posting most days, and whinging about RPGs uses lots of words and responses.

Click the profile button underneath your or anyone else's posts.

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Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




OwlFancier posted:

Isn't he a sex pest?

this isn't directed at you OwlFancier, but man I really hate the term 'sex pest'. I feel like it obfuscates and minimises sexual assault. It'd be much clearer to just call them abusers and rapists.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Beefeater1980 posted:

Brexit is just us, though, and this is happening everywhere. WhatsApp is plausibly credited with inflaming religious tensions and enabling massacres in India because it enables instant spread of rumours at a time when the government has decided to eradicate Islam from a country of 1bn+ people that’s like 15% Muslim.
That's less polarization and more prelude to a genocide though, and we've been (as a species) plenty good at those in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Lack of trust in the mainstream media is a part of it, I'm not sure if that's because the internet made it easier to call out their bullshit, but they brought that on through lies.

Still need to read Pale Horse Rider.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Necrothatcher posted:

this isn't directed at you OwlFancier, but man I really hate the term 'sex pest'. I feel like it obfuscates and minimises sexual assault. It'd be much clearer to just call them abusers and rapists.

I specifically use it when I can't remember what kind of wrongun they are, as in whether they're flirting inappropriately or competing for the jeffrey epstein memorial award.

I agree that if you know what they did you can probably just call them that, but there are that many people doing that many different kinds of sexwrong and facing no consequences that I can't keep track of who did what.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Isn't he a sex pest?

I thought he was very bad based on my hazy recollection of his comments on gay marriage, but checking wiki it's more that while he's said some downright weird things in general he comes across as a standard rich centrist liberal luvvie. Even the weird stuff kinda strikes me as pretentiousness and intellectual self-importance from an insular position of privilege rather than being straight up terrible. I mean, he's almost certianly a bore and a bit of a prick, but given the low bar set by other Jeremies he's probably not in the top 3 by terribleness

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At the 1991 Tony Awards, Irons was one of the few celebrities to wear the red ribbon to support the fight against AIDS. He was the first celebrity to wear it onscreen.[40][41]

In 1998, Irons and his wife were named in the list of the biggest private financial donors to the Labour Party, a year after its return to government with Tony Blair's victory in the 1997 United Kingdom general election, after 18 years in opposition.[42] He was also one of several celebrities who endorsed the parliamentary candidacy of the Green Party's Caroline Lucas at the 2015 UK general election.[43]

In 2004, he publicly declared his support for the Countryside Alliance, referring to the 2004 Hunting Act as an "outrageous assault on civil liberties" and "one of the two most devastating parliamentary votes in the last century".[44]

Irons is an outspoken critic of the death penalty and has supported the campaign by the human rights organisation Amnesty International UK to abolish capital punishment worldwide.[45] Among his arguments, Irons states the death penalty infringes on two fundamental human rights, the right to life, and no-one shall be subject to torture, adding that while the person accused of a crime may have abused those rights, to advocate the same be done to them is to join them.[45]

During a 2007 Q&A with The Guardian, Irons named Tony Blair as the living person he most admired; reasoning "For living so publicly with the knowledge that he's not perfect." He then named George W. Bush as the living person he most despised, stating “to hold his position he should have surrounded himself with more reliable people.”[46]

In 2009, Irons signed a petition in support of Polish film director Roman Polanski, calling for his release after he was arrested in Switzerland in relation to his 1977 charge for drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl.[47]

He has been criticised in the British Medical Journal for his fundraising activities in support of The College of Medicine, an alternative medicine lobby group in the UK linked to Prince Charles.[48]

In 2013, he caused controversy for an interview with the HuffPost, in which he said he "doesn't have a strong feeling either way" on gay marriage but expressed fears that it could "debase" marital law, suggesting it could be manipulated to allow fathers to avoid paying tax when passing on their estates to their sons, because he supposed incest laws would not apply to men.[49][50] He later clarified his comments, saying he was providing an example of a situation that could cause a "legal quagmire" under the laws that allow same-sex marriage, and that he had been misinterpreted. He added that some gay relationships are "healthier" than their straight counterparts.[51] He said in a BBC interview that he wished he had "buttoned" his lip before asking if its legalization would see fathers marry sons.[52][53]

He supports the legal availability of abortion, having said that he believes that "women should be allowed to make the decision". Nevertheless, he agreed with a pro-life advocate and was quoted as saying that "the church is right to say it's a sin".

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






NotJustANumber99 posted:

Whoops, had radio 2 on in the car earlier. A listener told Jeremy Vine that this government had killed however many old people in care homes and he lost his rag and shouted him down telling him he sounded silly. Not that he was wrong, that he sounded silly. The guy pretty calmly said ok then, they were told that this was going to kill however many people and they did it anyway and asked Vine to tell him what he would call that. Vine said nah I don't think I will and hung him up.

It seems telling that Vine just isnt prepared to discuss it. How could that be true? Its too silly. But he was angry about the guy saying it.
Back when "I, Daniel Blake" was broadcast for the first time on TV a bunch of right wing columnists came out to give their thoughts on it and they were almost unanimously "obviously this situation is bad but it doesn't feel realistic to me". Meanwhile anyone who had followed any number of stories over the past decade concerning poverty would scratch their heads because we all knew that if anything the movie pulled its punches.

I think thats the way they avoid feeling guilty for what they've brought down on millions of people in this country. They just flat out reject the whole concept the second they hear it so at no point do they ever have to interrogate it. Same with CV-19.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
This sounds like a village in the Home Counties.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
So i take it the whole marrying my dad to avoid inheritance tax isnt a thing I can do?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

This sounds like a village in the Home Counties.

Twinned with sexhow, which is a village not far from me.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

So i take it the whole marrying my dad to avoid inheritance tax isnt a thing I can do?
You can get your dad to establish a limited company in which you both have a share, transfer all his assets to the company, and then get a solicitor to structure it to qualify for Business Property Relief, because like everything in this country if you have a bunch of money you can just ignore the law. No marriage required.

The threshold to even pay it is like half a million though, so most of the people who've been told to be mad about it by the Express will never be affected.

e: ^^ You could call the company Incel Microprocessors and base it in Sexhow.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Comrade Fakename posted:

Boris quitting after Brexit would be hilarious. His entire legacy would be a colossal disaster or an embarrassing climbdown, combined with mismanagement that killed tens of thousands of his own citizens. He would be almost inarguably Britain's worst prime minister, and probably the second most dangerous man to the UK after Hitler.

Oh, believe me, there's a very good chance that he'll take the top spot from Hitler. Only around 430,000 British people died because of the Nazis; Brexit without a deal and without specific arrangements for medicines will easily beat that just on medical deaths. Add in Austerity 2: Judgement Day, the disruption to food supplies and the benefits and housing systems chewing up everyone who loses their job, and you're talking about a worst case of around a million dead in the next 15 months.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
I'm amazed that there's a discussion on oval office Jeremies and nobody has mentioned Gammon King Clarkson yet. Punching Piers Morgan doesn't remotely make up for all the other poo poo.

e: I'm hoping to get on a new medicine in the next month or so but it gets shipped in from Ireland. I can see Brexit totally loving up the supply of it straight after I finally get my hands on it.

VVVV put bucket under U bend, unscrew u bend, clean out blockage.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 26, 2020

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

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Help, I clogged my sink up good and proper with dirt/mud by washing the soil off some water plants in it and I don't know what to do

I suspected it was a bad idea but of course it didn't stop me lmao

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Do you have a plunger? If so put it over the drain and plunge it, see if that dislodges the crap.

Failing that you can try putting a cleaning rod down the drain, failing that you might have to take the pipes apart under the sink and clean it from there, failing that I think you need a plumber.

E: Also yes put a bucket under it before you take the pipework apart.

E2: also it might be obvious but don't put the crap you extract from the pipe back into the sink to get rid of it, or any other drain, put it in the bin.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Aug 26, 2020

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Do you have a plunger? If so put it over the drain and plunge it, see if that dislodges the crap.

Failing that you can try putting a cleaning rod down the drain, failing that you might have to take the pipes apart under the sink and clean it from there, failing that I think you need a plumber.

E: Also yes put a bucket under it before you take the pipework apart.

E2: also it might be obvious but don't put the crap you extract from the pipe back into the sink to get rid of it, or any other drain, put it in the bin.

Wire coat hangers are the bodger's best friend. Unwind the twisty bit under the hook, straighten it out, and you have a flexible drill that with minimal swearing should be able to dislodge just about anything.

If it's just mud, a bit of a prod with that should be all that's needed, then leave the hot tap running for a few minutes to make sure it's clear.

e: If it's one of those low-profile traps (shaped like a T) then they clog more easily than a proper U-bend but they're also much easier to clear, put a bucket under it, undo the dead end (a belt wrapped around and tightened on it makes a serviceable strap wrench if it resists), enjoy a whole new world of wonderful new smells as you rinse the trap out in a bucket, screw it back together, done.

If it's a u-bend then it's a bit more fiddly but the same basic principle applies, except now you have two things to undo, and you'll probably need that coat hanger to clear it out anyway.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 26, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Paperhouse posted:

Help, I clogged my sink up good and proper with dirt/mud by washing the soil off some water plants in it and I don't know what to do

I suspected it was a bad idea but of course it didn't stop me lmao
Put a few tablespoons of bicarbonate of soda down the drain, leave it for 10 minutes, then pour half a cup of white vinegar on top. Let the fizzing finish and then slowly flush the whole thing with hot water from the kettle.

If that doesn't work, caustic soda is good on soil, but it's very corrosive.

Lungboy posted:

I'm amazed that there's a discussion on oval office Jeremies and nobody has mentioned Gammon King Clarkson yet. Punching Piers Morgan doesn't remotely make up for all the other poo poo.
Jeremy Bamber is pretty bad too. Even if he didn't do the murders he still did a bunch of other poo poo.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I always wondered about "pipe cleaners" because they don't seem stiff enough to clean plumbing with, are they for smoking pipes or something?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I always wondered about "pipe cleaners" because they don't seem stiff enough to clean plumbing with, are they for smoking pipes or something?

Yep, exactly that. You can get stiffer, longer ones (fnarr) that are handy for clearing out blocks in overflows etc, but like I say a wire coat hanger is just as effective.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
The times when you will need a plunger and a drain snake are generally not good times to run down to the store to get one (e.g., 1am at night). Keep one around in the house.

Probably the first course of action here is to just take a look first, though. Do you have a bottle trap under the sink? Just unscrew the bottle and pour the soil out.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

Paperhouse posted:

Help, I clogged my sink up good and proper with dirt/mud by washing the soil off some water plants in it and I don't know what to do

I suspected it was a bad idea but of course it didn't stop me lmao

Put the plants back in the sink and admire your new indoor pond.

Lungboy posted:

I'm hoping to get on a new medicine in the next month or so but it gets shipped in from Ireland. I can see Brexit totally loving up the supply of it straight after I finally get my hands on it.

Wasn't there some talk last year about how prescriptions could be sent to Schiphol to be filled and collected? I wonder if the same could be done for Ireland. I'm sure some enterprising person would be able to set up a business that specialised in picking them up on behalf of patients and then getting them over the Ireland/NI border.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Guavanaut posted:

You can get your dad to establish a limited company in which you both have a share, transfer all his assets to the company, and then get a solicitor to structure it to qualify for Business Property Relief, because like everything in this country if you have a bunch of money you can just ignore the law. No marriage required.

Wait, what the gently caress is this? What's the rationale for something like this to exist, I mean how is that supposed to work?

Also what exactly would happen, dad passes away, company owns all the assets, so those assets can... just be enjoyed by the remaining owner? Wouldn't there be some corporation tax or dividend tax or something on that though?

Desiderata
May 25, 2005
Go placidly amid the noise and haste...

Guavanaut posted:

It seems to be the case, but I wonder what's causing it. Social media is a likely culprit to point fingers at, but the Brexit referendum and the huge media circus around it seems a large part of it. Reducing international geopolitics to a two option ballot.

We know the (macro) answer to this. Pretty much everything that Mark Blyth keeps saying : that several decades of neoliberalism, which is synonymous with the "centre", has resulted in massive inequality growth, exporting jobs and putting pressure on almost everyone's lives. This inequality growth has been noticed by the masses because they are not totally oblivious to their circumstances, and they are reacting to it seeking an explanation and a way out: blaming the EU and immigrants for the right (which are just proxies for the state abandoning its roles in their worldview), or blaming bankers and privatisation for the left (which are just proxies for the state abandoning its roles in their worldview).

The comfortable liberals (who helpfully run much of our press) are the only group who were not feeling any pain in the current state of things, having made progress in the new neoliberal world as thought leaders, technical experts or international consultants in the service economy. Thus to them, suddenly a perfectly sensible world (one in which they are doing well, naturally) is being disrupted by a mad irrational rise in racism, antifa, russians, bots, social media... or any one of a hundred excuses. Since they cannot countenance the idea that the world in which they have found a way to happily swim may be painful for others, and those others may both be able to and have the right to express the desire for change.

The only reason it is skewing right at the moment, is that these liberals are doing a better job of crushing any expression of that desire for change from the left, whereas the right are co-opting it... or at-least finding themselves co-opted by it. So both sides get further apart, and liberals have a breakdown in the centre (and in the press), about how wrong any change at all is, as each year the electorate move further and further to the edges.

Desiderata fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 26, 2020

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Just write that sink off and use a different one from now on.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Pistol_Pete posted:

My growing feeling is that US-UK politics is becoming more belligerently tribal than ever, to the extent that people deliberately turn a blind eye to their leader's failings to an extent that they wouldn't have done previously.

Where I think Starmer's making a mistake is in following the old model where the electorate is on a continuum stretching from far left to far right and you win elections by reaching out to the centre while trying to hold on to the existing voters in the wing that you're positioned in. I think politics now is far more like a football match, with very little or no crossover between the supporters. In this scenario, you win by enthusing your own set of supporters and dividing and demoralising your opponents.

So Johnson is cheerfully playing this game, whipping his supporters up into a frenzy with culture war bullshit, while Starmer's wasting his time trying to reach out to a non-existant centre ground by being as dull as possible. You'll never win a game that you're not even playing, of course.

Guavanaut posted:

It seems to be the case, but I wonder what's causing it. Social media is a likely culprit to point fingers at, but the Brexit referendum and the huge media circus around it seems a large part of it. Reducing international geopolitics to a two option ballot.

more belligerent but not more tribal, i think. more fickle if anything, if you think about the red wall turning blue. after two extremes like ERG v Corbyn, things are heading back to the centre

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Beefeater1980 posted:

I see that the right wing dude who tweeted to complain about Coyle, one “Talisman of Tashkent” (@bigtrees 1973), has made 47,700 tweets. By comparison, dril has a mere 10k. I’m not sure if that screams “bot” or “mental disorder” tbh.

My dog, I have 71,300 tweets apparently. Definitely mental disorder rather than bot in my case

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Lungboy posted:

I'm amazed that there's a discussion on oval office Jeremies and nobody has mentioned Gammon King Clarkson yet. Punching Piers Morgan doesn't remotely make up for all the other poo poo.


My favourite thing was him getting fired from the BBC*.
It was over him calling his (Irish) producer a oval office and yelling at him for not reheating his steaks for dinner or something.
Que lots of columns being written about how unacceptable this language is etc...

The guy was taken to hospital because he had been physically assaulted.


https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32052736


But it was the language he used that everyone focused on.

It is like the classic British entitlement to thrash the help when they do a bad job and you must discipline them is fine. But don't use rude words when you do it.


*= Assuming that it wasn't a deliberate move on his part to get fired so he could go and do the much better paid Grand Tour on Amazon.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Breath Ray posted:

more belligerent but not more tribal, i think. more fickle if anything, if you think about the red wall turning blue. after two extremes like ERG v Corbyn, things are heading back to the centre

I don't know if you noticed but we're getting no deal brexit, the ERG won.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

jaete posted:

Wait, what the gently caress is this? What's the rationale for something like this to exist, I mean how is that supposed to work?

Also what exactly would happen, dad passes away, company owns all the assets, so those assets can... just be enjoyed by the remaining owner? Wouldn't there be some corporation tax or dividend tax or something on that though?
The rationale is for a bona fide family business, like a greengrocers that has been going since the 1910s and passed from father to son with grandad still owning the building/business assets until he dies, to have a fairer chance against a supermarket with a million shareholders that never has anything that can die, and not have to pay inheritance tax every 30 odd years to continue running. It was a Labour idea in the 70s and specifically excludes businesses that exist only to hold assets and trade investments.

But yeah it's also something that gets abused by wealthy people through solicitors restructuring shifty limited companies to not look like those things.

Desiderata posted:

several decades of neoliberalism
That makes sense for the large view. Everyone knows something isn't right, and the internet has given use a hundred Bill Coopers to tell different groups to trust nobody (but internalize what I'm about to say).

The complete collapse in trust in the media among the left is an obvious thing with how they treated Corbyn but it'll be interesting to see what replaces it.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
George Galloway (or his Alliance 4 Unity party, I assume he's the one tweeting) is having a very normal one

https://twitter.com/Alliance4Unity/status/1298582690011250688
https://twitter.com/Alliance4Unity/status/1298666260587327490

the whole twitter account is glorious. this is the high-minded uplifting discourse that scottish political debate needs

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Lol just as I start giving plumbing advice I finally find the real culprit of my circuit breakers blowing - bastard pinhole leak in a radiator that had slowly built up enough of a puddle to short out an extension cord hidden under a bed. Now just have to wait for Scerwfix to confirm they have my advanced bodging supplies ready because this one's beyond the reach of even Sugru (although thanks to the positioning a wire coat hanger will probably be involved)

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
His tweets made me smile, but Coyle was one of the biggest leakers of poo poo to the press alongside being one of the publicly-gobbiest anti-Corbyn cunts the Labour Party has had over the last few years. So he's still absolutely on my poo poo-list.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Can't wait for the george galloway/ben shapiro party where they run on the platform of "I have no sex and neither should anybody else"

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



My best friend has over 90k tweets and she's no bot, I have another friend with over 150k, lots of friends with above 50k, y'all have some skewed ideas of what constitutes a lot of tweets imho

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

jaete posted:

Wait, what the gently caress is this? What's the rationale for something like this to exist, I mean how is that supposed to work?

Also what exactly would happen, dad passes away, company owns all the assets, so those assets can... just be enjoyed by the remaining owner? Wouldn't there be some corporation tax or dividend tax or something on that though?

The idea is it's tied to the notion of the Corporate veil. That a business and a person's wealth and property are separate.

In theory it's meant to be that a person doesn't run a business into the ground and then be chased for all their days until they end up a pauper. Amoung other reasons.

Eventually it leads to people going "if I put all my assets into my company and fiddle with things, I can avoid paying tax."

Funnily enough lawyers are wise to those tricks, so if Revenue pay us to go after said people, we know where the cracks in the argument are.

A friend of mine was hired to go after a man who claimed that his dividends paid by the company (of which he was the sole occupant) was the exact same as his outgoings and thus he couldn't pay this €60,000 debt he owed.
Que my friend cross examining this director about how the company seemed to be treating him very well if it gave him a 2019 SUV as a company car, but only paid him consistent wage that happened to be the same as the companies expenses divided by 12.
He also got to cross examine him on why his expenses were always the same and why he didn't seem to spend any extra money on his birthday or Christmas.

In the end said director was given a court order to pay the debt he owed.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

lol bananas and nutella

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Ms Adequate posted:

My best friend has over 90k tweets and she's no bot

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ms Adequate posted:

My best friend has over 90k tweets and she's no bot, I have another friend with over 150k, lots of friends with above 50k, y'all have some skewed ideas of what constitutes a lot of tweets imho

150k? Assuming they got an account the day Twitter went live that's *still* 30-odd a day, that's a lot.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Ms Adequate posted:

My best friend has over 90k tweets and she's no bot, I have another friend with over 150k, lots of friends with above 50k, y'all have some skewed ideas of what constitutes a lot of tweets imho

Maybe twitter should be like the nokia 3310 and once you've got to 10 tweets, youve got to delete one if you want to do another.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Maybe twitter should be... once you...tweet...youve got to delete...i...t

Yes

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Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008
I know the answer's racism, but what in the actual gently caress

https://twitter.com/dontkillmyvybz/status/1298388924029644800?s=19

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