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resting bort face posted:Are bows a noob trap? Or just highly situational? Bows are the funhaver's weapon of choice. They're a blast to use and some can commit warcrimes on an unprecedented scale. Here are my faves: Dread - Insanely high crit with a slash-biased arrow. It can cut mobs in half *and* pin them to walls. Mutalist Cernos - Leaves toxic hell clouds wherever the arrows land. It sucks by default until you get Split Flights, which then makes this weapon do a complete 180 and inflict excessive biological warfare. Lenz - Shoots an icy plasma arrow that then explodes with the fury of a supernova. Kuva Bramma - Shoots an explosive arrow that then fragments into cluster bombs. There are other bows too I guess.
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Dread with multishot and crit mods is fun even if it isn't the ultimate weapon, I used it a fair bit before I got the MR for more efficient weapons. I probably would've used it more if Wuclone could actually hit enemies with bows that don't have Loony Toons sticks of dynamite on the arrow tips.
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I never did conservation until this patch and besides the bugs where spawn points dont work right I think its pretty fun.
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I tried doing some echo-lure based hunting on Deimos. I decided on Cryptilex. Equip the echo-lure and locations show up on map. Ok so far so good. Head over to one, get some tracks, follow them and do the echo-lure dance. So far, so good. Now we're in the Tranq It! phase. Except I don't know where the gently caress this thing is. No minimap enemy icon appears. Nothing is glowing as I pan around scoped down the tranq rifle. I eventually give up and just fly around a bit and find a couple of Weakened things to go grab (why were they weakened and just lying around?). For shits, I go back to the call site and melee slam down and ... I just killed the Cryptilex. Son chews my drat ear off about it. Soooo... I give it another shot, thinking the thing is gonna be nearby and I got unlucky. Can't find it. For 10 mins I'm just walking around as sneaky Ivara looking for something in my sights. I catch a lot of fish (hurray) but can't find anything to tranq (boo) and then the hotfix red text appears so I give up. So my question is what the gently caress is a Cryptilex and where do they hide? Is conservation broken or did I pick the worst thing to try and hunt?
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In my experience the cryptilex aren't broken, they just take a good minute to actually show up after you complete the minigame. The birbs are the truly broken ones
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andyf posted:So my question is what the gently caress is a Cryptilex and where do they hide? Is conservation broken or did I pick the worst thing to try and hunt? It's basically a gribbly pobber. Roughly the same size and animations, but appears in singles instead of three at a time.
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Ok I was probably overreacting to the tokens, after actually poking around it seems like I mostly want Granmaw's tokens for maximum rep gains. DO any weapons get hidden traits from Xaku? EDIT: I wasn't expecting Deimos to be good for low level frames, that's actually pretty nice for new players. Dreadwroth2 fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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andyf posted:So my question is what the gently caress is a Cryptilex and where do they hide? Is conservation broken or did I pick the worst thing to try and hunt? Conservation is broken but you're struggling with it for completely normal, non-bug-related reasons. Listen to the response call when you're hunting animals to conserve. It'll tell you which direction they're coming from. Then aim down the tranq rifle and you'll see them outlined in flashing orange even through walls. Unfortunately Deimos is 99% orange already because gently caress you that's why, but hopefully the flash itself will be enough. e: also Cryptilex are little maggot dudes exactly like the ones from Nidus's 4 or the Strain mod set, except bigger "gribbly pobbers" isn't too far off size-wise but the resemblance ends there Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 00:33
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Helio's scans help a whole lot when first starting conservation, can easily spot the target or the nest for you.
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No Mods No Masters posted:In my experience the cryptilex aren't broken, they just take a good minute to actually show up after you complete the minigame. The birbs are the truly broken ones instead of using the whole echolure poo poo, I've had way better luck with the birds just flying around in my archwing. I have only ever seen the birds spawn on the very edge of the map, about 30m off the ground, hovering over what looks like the abyss. When they fall they do always fall on land, but they always look like their lil unconscious bodies should go plummeting into the ether I got enough Common Avichaeas for rank-up in about 30 minutes by ignoring the spawn points e: weirdly, the birds are also remarkably chill about me flying almost into their faces and then shooting them point blank, but ymmv Soothing Vapors fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Dreadwroth2 posted:Ok I was probably overreacting to the tokens, after actually poking around it seems like I mostly want Granmaw's tokens for maximum rep gains. You can get some sort of throwing knife blueprint that has some bonus, I forget what, when used by Xaku from the tier 5/steel path bounties. Incidentally it requires a resource which I think is only obtainable by trading in 20 grandma tokens so if you're interested maybe don't blow them on rep. e: actually it's a war fan melee that I guess shoots daggers or something. The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 01:19
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FYI - from twitter https://twitter.com/sj_sinclair/status/1298788834432495617
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facialimpediment posted:FYI - from twitter Honestly if they're going to reduce them further they might as well just make them fully optional at this point.
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Conservation not being optional was a mistake, but at the very least it should not be more than 3 son tokens for getting to rank 3.
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you just don't get it man they want you to experience their grand vision of incredibly hosed-up birds
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Yeah, I'd of liked conservation to remain a 100% optional side activity like in the other open worlds.
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I can't help but to cynically think the removal of standing rewards for tokens is stretching content. That's what confused me about the faction, everything is based on tokens. Its like treating a main faction as an operator faction. The presence of daily limits kinda makes the whole "gather as much as you want" irrelevant because most people aren't going to grind above and beyond. And we already have token systems in place with direct standing rewards. One of the major factors that I liked about Warframe was it gives options. Now those options are required.
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Appears the latest hotfix made isolation vaults impossible so don't run any until tomorrow when they fix them
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If you want a wild as hell gimmick and you have a Cernos Prime, get Split Flights and try to turn your arc of arrows into a literal arc occupied by dozens of arrows
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Victory Position posted:If you want a wild as hell gimmick and you have a Cernos Prime, get Split Flights and try to turn your arc of arrows into a literal arc occupied by dozens of arrows Can confirm, is strong, but has the downside of being so inaccurate at range that enemies can fit between the arrows your shooting. Absolutely A+ hallway clearer though.
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Malloc Voidstar posted:Appears the latest hotfix made isolation vaults impossible so don't run any until tomorrow when they fix them How so? I ran a set of 3 solo a couple hours ago.
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Helter Skelter posted:How so? I ran a set of 3 solo a couple hours ago. It might be possible to get lucky but people are saying they've run them repeatedly and had them be impossible every time.
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I've run about 10 within the last 5 hours and so far the first vault never has a crystal and the second vault has a crystal but the second mech doesn't spawn so you can't even get partial credit.
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Group I was in was getting missing crystal in first vault every time then the third mech for the third vault spawning in the first vault and the third crystal didn't spawn once. Went solo and switched to doing west vault (by prospect) second and east vault (by abcess) last and had no bugs.
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Once again, my habit of running new content solo to avoid issues pays off.
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Them just entirely refusing to admit there's even a problem with scintillant drop rates is so loving DE.
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I took their word for it that there would be scintillant in the vaults, so did them for several hours tonight and saw a grand total of zero. Must be weird for them designing a game they don’t actually play
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I'm one of the weirds who enjoys tranqing animals but it should be optional to gain tons of rep IMO. Really like Deimos but struggling to see the mining points, there appears to have been a highlight function added at least.
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Does anyone know how the "protect the Corpus researcher while he uploads data" bounty stage works? I've never seen it complete with a bonus, he always bugs out before the data is fully uploaded despite being, seemingly, perfectly safe behind a hail of tenno weapons fire in every direction.
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Aug 27, 2020 09:23
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Kestral posted:Does anyone know how the "protect the Corpus researcher while he uploads data" bounty stage works? I've never seen it complete with a bonus, he always bugs out before the data is fully uploaded despite being, seemingly, perfectly safe behind a hail of tenno weapons fire in every direction. This is educated guesswork, but: - Player count appears to affect it. Lots of people complaining about not being able to complete it in a group; solo, I have yet to fail it. - I think it works like Interception missions. It's not enough to prevent enemies from hurting the researcher, they can't even be near him. Ragdolled enemies don't count, though, so Nidus or Vauban should make it much easier.
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Iiiinteresting, that's a mechanic that could definitely use more clarity. I'll give Vauban a try alongside a friend's intense slowva and see if that makes a difference. Unrelated, Baruuk is my boy for these bounties. Enemies blending in with the surroundings, hiding in tall grass, or having weird armor types matters not when Desert Wind comes a-knocking.
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I'm fairly certain it's impossible with 4 players. I've encountered that bounty once and despite literally no enemies spawning at all during the bonus phase we still failed it.
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This is what happens when scintillant shows up in a vault, I recommend 2x speed: https://streamable.com/xy7rea Impossible to grab it and it's the only one I've seen in 40+ vaults.
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So I did the base Deimos quest last night, grabbed enough stuff to turn in to make a quick 500 rep, bought the basic fishing spear, threw it at fish... and they instantly misted. I tried several fish and it just instagibs them. Is that intentional? I don't think I was getting anything from it, not even fish parts.
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Nalesh posted:Them just entirely refusing to admit there's even a problem with scintillant drop rates is so loving DE. It's been what like two days? In developer time that is nothing. The first few days you are typically only in critical bug-fixing mode, while you are doing that you observe the community's opinions on balance, then you address balance. Give them a moment drat.
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ElegantFugue posted:So I did the base Deimos quest last night, grabbed enough stuff to turn in to make a quick 500 rep, bought the basic fishing spear, threw it at fish... and they instantly misted. I tried several fish and it just instagibs them. Is that intentional? I don't think I was getting anything from it, not even fish parts. Bug. Relogging fixed it for me… 
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ElegantFugue posted:So I did the base Deimos quest last night, grabbed enough stuff to turn in to make a quick 500 rep, bought the basic fishing spear, threw it at fish... and they instantly misted. I tried several fish and it just instagibs them. Is that intentional? I don't think I was getting anything from it, not even fish parts. Havent run into any major other showstoppers yet, but we'll see. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Arsonide posted:It's been what like two days? In developer time that is nothing. The first few days you are typically only in critical bug-fixing mode, while you are doing that you observe the community's opinions on balance, then you address balance. Give them a moment drat. I'm still a bit amazed there were people upset they couldn't sprint through the content to get frames in the helminth in the few hours before the daily reset
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Kestral posted:Does anyone know how the "protect the Corpus researcher while he uploads data" bounty stage works? I've never seen it complete with a bonus, he always bugs out before the data is fully uploaded despite being, seemingly, perfectly safe behind a hail of tenno weapons fire in every direction. You gotta stand right on top of him to feed him the data. At least that’s what a pubbie told me last night. Seemed to get more that way.
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