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Also with lovely people, # of failed marriages is an important red flag because it makes it increasingly obvious that the problem was likely them and not their exes.
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Leviathan Song posted:I understand the sentiment but disagree. My grandma survived two good Men and raised 6 of their kids. If she'd found another man after her second husband died of cancer in her 50s, I wouldn't have begrudged her that. You don't get to arbitrarily decide other people's relationships just because you've lived a charmed life. "Survived" as in, til death do us part? (Obviously I don't actually want to ban any type of marriage - I just don't get what people think marriage IS when they're on their 3rd one. Luckily I don't need to understand!)
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Aug 27, 2020 02:22
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Haifisch posted:Also with lovely people, # of failed marriages is an important red flag because it makes it increasingly obvious that the problem was likely them and not their exes. Usually it's both of them TBH. GoGoGadgetChris posted:"Survived" as in, til death do us part? Shouldn't a wife immolate herself on her husband's funeral pyre as is customary? "'Til death" is some messed up western corruption.
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Aug 27, 2020 02:28
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:"Survived" as in, til death do us part? Yes two husbands died. My aunt Carol survived 8 spouses, 2 of whom were great guys I had the opportunity to know. She only divorced her ninth husband who was an abusive rear end in a top hat. 3rd wife or husband is a completely reasonable concept because not everyone gets to live to old age and not everybody makes the right choice their first time.
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Aug 27, 2020 02:29
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:"Survived" as in, til death do us part? Also marriage still has a bunch of legal benefits that make sense for long-term relationships. It's the reason anyone bothers getting married at all, other than religious reasons.
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Aug 27, 2020 02:31
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Leviathan Song posted:Yes two husbands died. My aunt Carol survived 8 spouses, 2 of whom were great guys I had the opportunity to know. She only divorced her ninth husband who was an abusive rear end in a top hat. 3rd wife or husband is a completely reasonable concept because not everyone gets to live to old age and not everybody makes the right choice their first time. 2 things: It's pretty obvious he's not talking about widows. Also, 8 husbands died on her? Sorry to tell you this but your aunt Carol is a black widow.
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Haifisch posted:marriage still has a bunch of legal benefits that make sense for long-term relationships. It's the reason anyone bothers getting married at all, other than religious reasons. WHaaaaaat this is crazy coconuts to me. Publicly making and celebrating your lifelong commitment to someone in front of all your friends and family?? Don't get me wrong, I'm on #2 and the ex is very much still alive, but my personal experience is that if this one doesn't work out, holy poo poo I am never getting married again Pre-empting the derail bird 
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Once you've done a take-it-backsy on "til death do us part" I think you should just stick to having Girlfriends. Save on the paperwork! You know, you don't have to actually say that to get married
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Aug 27, 2020 04:25
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therobit posted:Also, 8 husbands died on her? Sorry to tell you this but your aunt Carol is a black widow. Yeah, this. 3-4 would be suspicious enough! Jokes?
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Aug 27, 2020 04:42
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therobit posted:2 things: 
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BMan posted:You know, you don't have to actually say that to get married Indeed, I did not when I got married, because both of us were children of divorce and we knew that people change. We got married because we believed we would be happier married, and we got divorced when we believed, after substantial consideration and counseling, that we would be happier not being married. As far as I know, neither of us have any regrets about either the marriage or the divorce, and if I remarry I strongly suspect my ex will be in attendance. (And there won’t be any “until death do us part” bullshit that time either.)
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Lol at a “twice-married” condemning the “three-times-married.” You’re gonna be a judgey wudgey about “till death do us part” while you’ve also reneged on that vow? Who cares? While we’re at it, people should only be allowed two mortgages, two car notes, and one revision of their will, since were setting arbitrary limits on how many contracts someone should be morally allowed to sign. I’m on the other side, if you’re in an LTR just get married. Divorce gives a formal, legal framework of “how to break up.” I judge people that buy a house of have a kid together, but then still won’t get married because THATS too much commitment. (This is one of my favorite themes in BWM it comes up all the time)
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Switchback posted:Lol at a “twice-married” condemning the “three-times-married.” You’re gonna be a judgey wudgey about “till death do us part” while you’ve also reneged on that vow? Who cares? No condemning or judgment here. Wide miss with this post!
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Just realized how strange it is for a religion that believes in an after life and heaven to have "till death do us part" in their wedding vows.
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I feel the this thread should be focusing less on the number of marriages and more on the last minute prenup, hidden in a closet with an eye towards taking the house, nuptial preparations.
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Aug 27, 2020 08:01
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:Just realized how strange it is for a religion that believes in an after life and heaven to have "till death do us part" in their wedding vows. What do you think heaven is? Going in married is like bringing sand to the beach.
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Aug 27, 2020 08:09
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
Holy poo poo. Is that even legal? I suppose it is if you've found someone dumb enough to sign a contract that says "We can charge 5% of your total investment as a fee to rebalance at our discretion whenever we feel like it in addition to the usurious fees we are already charging you" but goddamn.
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Aug 27, 2020 08:35
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mandatory divorces every 5 years, get married again if you wanna stay
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get the ghost of zsa zsa gabor to write the divorce laws. or mao zedong for some reason
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bob dobbs is dead posted:mandatory divorces every 5 years, get married again if you wanna stay
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give your husband a pip
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Dik Hz posted:How about stack ranking marriages? Every year, every marriage gets ranked and the bottom 10% are automatically divorced. Who ranks the marriages? 
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Cast_No_Shadow posted:Just realized how strange it is for a religion that believes in an after life and heaven to have "till death do us part" in their wedding vows. Actually, if I recall correctly it is explicitly stated in the Bible that after death you are no longer married in any kind of afterlife. That's actually something that is internally consistent wrt Christian dogma. I think that the actual part that comes from was somebody asking Jesus if I marry somebody and they die and then I marry somebody else afterwards who will be my spouse in heaven, to which the response was neither.
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Griefor posted:Holy poo poo. Is that even legal? I suppose it is if you've found someone dumb enough to sign a contract that says "We can charge 5% of your total investment as a fee to rebalance at our discretion whenever we feel like it in addition to the usurious fees we are already charging you" but goddamn. It is and it is how Edward Jones and other shady brokers make a lot of their money. They charge "Front Load Fees" every time you buy a new asset and they also "re-balance" your funds every so often. https://www.edwardjones.com/disclosures/account-fees/ej-compensation-fees.html quote:How are we paid for our services? Edward Jones has A LOT of extra fees even beyond the insane 3% per year expense ratio and 5.75% front load fees. They also have "Back End Fees" that they charge when you sell as well. quote:Account Service and Maintenance Fees Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 12:58
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It is and it is how Edward Jones and other shady brokers make a lot of their money.  This is insane to me. Imagine how much they'd have to outperform the market to beat the fees. I can't imagine what the yearly meeting they have with their customers must be like, when they compare how they did versus how the market did.
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Residency Evil posted:
Back when I was a cop about 15 years ago, I had an EJ employee file a report when he received death threats from an irate customer for what the customer perceived as churning his account for exorbitant fees.
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also part of "til death do us part" is that usually both partners don't die at the same time. one is in heaven and one is still on earth and therefore separated
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Tyro posted:Back when I was a cop about 15 years ago, I had an EJ employee file a report when he received death threats from an irate customer for what the customer perceived as churning his account for exorbitant fees. So did you arrest him? The EJ employee, that is.
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DaveSauce posted:So did you arrest him? No, but I did tell the customer how to file a regulatory complaint.
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Residency Evil posted:
As an authorized salesman of the Edward Jones Corporation, let me tell you why it's worth it. We are an independent advisory firm that acts in the best interest of our clients. We do not believe in a set it and forget approach to money management and will customize a portfolio to your specific needs. We actively manage your portfolio to achieve maximum returns while limiting your downside risk. Proactive money management is vital to ensuring that your wealth continues to grow. Yes, there are fees. But, if you only invest in increments of $1M and above, then your fees can be as low as 0.5% + $795. Investing is hard and keeping up with the daily ebb and flow of the market is stressful. You pay your mechanic to manage your car and your pharmacist to manage your prescriptions in order for you to not have to worry. However, not everyone is sure of where their money should be invested, or how much to invest, and ultimately when they should sell. Our investment advisors have extensive experience in the investment industry. Many companies just offer one or two services for money management. We offer comprehensive services that are custom for each client. You've worked hard to earn your money and we can make your money work hard for you. Many of our clients are executives or owners of their own business - that means they are smart and rich. You are smart and rich as well, right? You may be a simple member of the hoi polloi, but our financial advisors can help shed light on this complex issue and ensure you're aware of what you need to be doing now to enjoy a financially-sound retirement. If you lose money, well that's the stock market! If you make money, then we did our job and you wouldn't have been able to do it without us. Don't rely on other companies for money management. Trust our competent and expert wealth advisors to help you succeed.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:As an authorized salesman of the Edward Jones Corporation, let me tell you why it's worth it. We are an independent advisory firm that acts in the best interest of our clients. We do not believe in a set it and forget approach to money management and will customize a portfolio to your specific needs. We actively manage your portfolio to achieve maximum returns while limiting your downside risk. Proactive money management is vital to ensuring that your wealth continues to grow. reported
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Source your quotes
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:As an authorized salesman of the Edward Jones Corporation, let me tell you why it's worth it. We are an independent advisory firm that acts in the best interest of our clients. We do not believe in a set it and forget approach to money management and will customize a portfolio to your specific needs. We actively manage your portfolio to achieve maximum returns while limiting your downside risk. Proactive money management is vital to ensuring that your wealth continues to grow. I'm sorry my eyes glazed over. A front end 5% load sounds fine.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:"Third wife" is a concept that should just not exist.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:You may be a simple member of the hoi polloi only invest with financial advisors who majored in linguistics edit: although the wikipedia page for it cracks me up every time cause someone literally put this in there: quote:Some linguists argue that, given that hoi is a definite article, the phrase "the hoi polloi" is redundant, akin to saying "the the masses". Others argue that this is inconsistent with other English loanwords.[11] The word "alcohol", for instance, derives from the Arabic al-kuhl, al being an article, yet "the alcohol" is universally accepted as good grammar.[12] 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:
That person should be drug out in the street and shot. You've reminded me of the Maize article.
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Staying at my inlaws, and my father in law is getting into a different moneymaking scheme, this time becoming an insurance/annuity salesman. I asked how it was going. Him: "Do you know the story about how bamboo grows?" Me: "Oh, like how it grows everywhere and you can't stop it from getting into your neighbor's yards unless you put a concrete barrier five feet down into the soil?" Him: "No, like the story of bamboo." Me: ... Him: "To get bamboo to grow, you have to plant the seed in special dirt and water it and water it, and fertilize it. For five years. And then in the fifth year, it shoots up 90 feet! So it's like, now, I'm planting the seed and getting everything ready, and then BAM, just like that. But you have to be patient before you see results." Anyway, I looked it up and it actually takes 2 weeks for bamboo seeds to germinate. And most nurseries actually grow them from rhizomes, and not seeds at all, because seedlings are generally weaker and don't survive as well. Which I think really completes the metaphor accurately in this case. So that's The Story of Bamboo.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:BWM: investing with anyone who doesn't know that "the hoi polloi" is as redundant as "with au jus"
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My boss makes me call it a HOT water heater in my reports and it similarly kills me
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Im constantly forced to write about how we have an unreliable testing procedure for our code so it might work and it might not like that's not just how most code bases are. 
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