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OhFunny posted:
https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/sta...hingawful.com%2 Guess those rumored health issues were true.
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Aug 28, 2020 06:15
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Russian President visited his friend, a former Red Army soldier who fought as a sniper Stalingrad and now lives in the wilderness of Siberia, where he puts his marksmanship to use hunting wildlife. with a setup like that im amazed that chinas the villain and not that the soviet union sparks a popular uprising to prevent the country from being robbed of trillions of dollars
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Aug 28, 2020 06:20
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I'm glad abe is resigning. of course his replacement will probably also be a ghoul, but he's been a poo poo pm. fun fact: his grandpa was a war criminal who brutalized manchuria. eat poo poo, bitch
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Aug 28, 2020 06:28
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Some Guy TT posted:with a setup like that im amazed that chinas the villain and not that the soviet union sparks a popular uprising to prevent the country from being robbed of trillions of dollars It was written in the late 1990s when Russia was a "good guy," this would rapidly change (btw the Russian president allowed American oil companies to do what they will which should clue you in.)
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Aug 28, 2020 06:44
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Some Guy TT posted:with a setup like that im amazed that chinas the villain and not that the soviet union sparks a popular uprising to prevent the country from being robbed of trillions of dollars The book was written in 2000, and since Clancy tried to keep things at least mildly grounded in reality, he also had to write-in that the Soviet Union did collapse, and so Russia was now a democracy-loving capitalist bastion of liberalism. This was also the culmination of something like a three book cycle: in Debt of Honor, we see a cabal forming between the head of a Japanese zaibatsu, an Iranian mullah, and a senior CPC politburo member. Debt of Honor is when the Japanese step up to the plate and attack the US, but is parried by the President heeding Jack Ryan's advice as National Security Advisor. He gets elevated to Vice President to replace not-Ted-Kennedy getting implicated in not-Chappaquiddick, but a distraught Japanese pilot does a 9/11 on Congress during the State of the Union address so Ryan becomes President. Executive Orders is when Ryan has to contend with rebuilding the US government after this decapitation, and then has to deal with the second part of the triumvirate when Iran assassinates not-Saddam-Hussein, assimilates Iraq, and forms the United Islamic Republic as a new regional superpower that attacks the US with an outbreak of Ebola virus. The Federal government implements lockdown procedures to secure the outbreak of Ebola, the US military does Gulf War 2.0, the not-Ayatollah-Khomeini gets assassinated with a smart bomb, and all is well. The Bear and the Dragon was part three, where China takes its shot after the first two members of the pact have failed.
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Aug 28, 2020 06:49
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Mirello posted:I'm glad abe is resigning. of course his replacement will probably also be a ghoul, but he's been a poo poo pm. fun fact: his grandpa was a war criminal who brutalized manchuria. eat poo poo, bitch *monkey's paw curls, koike becomes pm*
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Aug 28, 2020 06:57
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extremely nice of the Clancy villains to attack the US one at a time, so it's a fair fight.gradenko_2000 posted:The Russian President contacts President Jack Ryan to tell him the news, and they work out an agreement where American oil companies will help develop drilling and mining operations in the area so that Russia can profit from the discovery. the rest of the plot was reasonable, but this is ridiculous.
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Aug 28, 2020 06:58
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so we can do this to black babies but they can't? hosed up imo
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Aug 28, 2020 07:07
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/sta...hingawful.com%2 They will most likely install some hardline anti China poo poo-hog. This is 2020 so I’m not holding my breath for anything good to come out of this.
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Aug 28, 2020 07:22
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Anyone know anything about Taro Aso? He's supposed to be the next in line in LDP leadership?
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Aug 28, 2020 07:23
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gradenko_2000 posted:Anyone know anything about Taro Aso? He's supposed to be the next in line in LDP leadership? For English resources, there's this: http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/13663073
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Aug 28, 2020 07:30
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gradenko_2000 posted:Anyone know anything about Taro Aso? He's supposed to be the next in line in LDP leadership? he comes from an old war criminal family, is an open member of a of a neo-imperial ultranationalist group, and is so bigoted he stopped a dude in his own party from becoming PM for being a burakumin he's also considered a big joke because he might actually be illiterate
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Aug 28, 2020 07:42
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so he's probably gonna be pm for the next 20 years yeah
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Aug 28, 2020 07:43
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VomitOnLino posted:For English resources, there's this: quote:TARO ASO lmfao Japan gonna get weeaboo Biden
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Aug 28, 2020 07:45
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can a person be weeb if they r japanese? food for thot
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Aug 28, 2020 07:47
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gradenko_2000 posted:lmfao Japan gonna get weeaboo Biden Aso is a racist, misogynistic piece of poo poo. He's also loving old. Aka he'd represent his voter base pretty well. 
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Aug 28, 2020 07:47
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Russian President visited his friend, a former Red Army soldier who fought as a sniper Stalingrad and now lives in the wilderness of Siberia, where he puts his marksmanship to use hunting wildlife. Can you write a Taiwan version? A super popular tw pro green youtuber just got shot for real, you can start with that. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 09:47 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 09:28
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Mirello posted:I'm glad abe is resigning. of course his replacement will probably also be a ghoul, but he's been a poo poo pm. fun fact: his grandpa was a war criminal who brutalized manchuria. eat poo poo, bitch Literally all of the potential PM candidates are sons of former PM/fraction leaders/war criminal. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 09:37 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 09:30
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gradenko_2000 posted:lmfao Japan gonna get weeaboo Biden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7EHYonXWzE
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Aug 28, 2020 10:06
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stephenthinkpad posted:That's your argument for preventing the Chinese from getting their wealth? no you should argue for bringing down the current resource consumption per capita of America and Canada to the world level! You don't get it. Wealth is poison. Americans have almost entirely been corrupted by capitalist alienation at this point. One of my favorite things about living in China was that the Chinese are generally only half-alienated. They still have social intelligence and the ability to think and act for the greater good. I was very lucky to be able to learn from that and change before I was totally alienated. All the wealth in the world is not worth losing this insane advantage. On top of alienation, Chinese becoming individually materialistic like Americans are would further doom the planet's biosphere. That's why I want China to evolve into communism or something like it. I do not want them to become 'wealthy' like Americans are for their own sake and for the sake of everyone else.
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Aug 28, 2020 11:06
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Grapplejack posted:Lol come on that's a heritage foundation website Agreed. Twitter is not a reliable source at all.
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Aug 28, 2020 11:18
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ah, the noble savages living in china used to coexist in peace with nature, much like the natives here in america, but now i weep for their lost innocence...............
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Aug 28, 2020 12:02
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Cool strawman bro
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Aug 28, 2020 12:30
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Saying ‘I do not want them to become wealthy like Americans for their sake and our sake’ is patronizing at the very best. If this taste of wealth is truly so poisonous and corruptible that it can’t be removed from America then that’s that. If the wealthiest nation on earth with free labour and land couldn’t do it why could China, its fatalist to only to one side and unfair you can’t tell people ‘do as I say not as I do’ no matter how you shake it Professorjuggalo has issued a correction as of 12:49 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 12:46
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stephenthinkpad posted:Literally all of the potential PM candidates are sons of former PM/fraction leaders/war criminal. yeah japan politics sucks. basically like letting all the nazis back into govt (which they did do in west germany, but had some shame about it). I dunno what could sink the ldp though, the opposition is extremely toothless. also @naanviolence stfu, your constant trolling/ contrarianism makes this thread an eyesore to read. as someone who lives in china and is married to a chinese you suck.
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Aug 28, 2020 13:50
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Professorjuggalo posted:Saying ‘I do not want them to become wealthy like Americans I read that as 'in the same manner as' not 'to the same degree as'
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Aug 28, 2020 14:15
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VideoTapir posted:I read that as 'in the same manner as' not 'to the same degree as' why not say something like ‘I hope China tries to consume more like the Japanese or European’ instead of malthusiany ‘all of us will die if China can achieve a quality of life that Americans will never themselves give away thats amazing to have once you get it but you’re evil for trying’. either way I’m done with the topic cause I’ve def been making GBS threads it up on the derail myself best way I can put it is imagine trying this argument in a African geopolitics thread Professorjuggalo has issued a correction as of 15:18 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 15:02
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https://twitter.com/rodericday/status/1299360207470985218
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Aug 28, 2020 17:27
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NaanViolence posted:You don't get it. Wealth is poison. Americans have almost entirely been corrupted by capitalist alienation at this point. One of my favorite things about living in China was that the Chinese are generally only half-alienated. They still have social intelligence and the ability to think and act for the greater good. I was very lucky to be able to learn from that and change before I was totally alienated. All the wealth in the world is not worth losing this insane advantage. Great post. This reason alone is why I prefer China to win the next Cold War. China is literally the last major country with a functional government somewhat independent of finance-capital (fascism). It’s illustrated quite nicely in this exchange: quote:Isaac: Maybe the Luminous Path, but China knows that the Red Arrow are business owners, entrepreneurs, community leaders, and that they protect the city from outside influences.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:35
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Aug 28, 2020 17:56
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gradenko_2000 posted:The Bear and the Dragon was part three, where China takes its shot after the first two members of the pact have failed. It also ends in a successful, spontaneous democratic revolution in China. Clancy would always have these big events, Russia getting super rich, mega-Iran/Iraq, and China going democratic but have to act like it didn't happen later on because it would be a weird alt-history where some person picking up a book in an airport would have no idea what was going on.
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Aug 28, 2020 17:57
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Clancy would always have these big events, Russia getting super rich, mega-Iran/Iraq, and China going democratic but have to act like it didn't happen later on because it would be a weird alt-history where some person picking up a book in an airport would have no idea what was going on. It is a good way to judge the success of commercialized bug-eyed nationalism. Dugin needed a Jack Ryan if he really wanted to sell copies. You can make the argument though that a Tom Clancy is necessary in the US because American state nationalism after the Civil War is inherently unstable and has similar features to Turkish nationalism (which also has a ton of similar weird geopolitical conspiracy authors). Ardennes has issued a correction as of 18:07 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 18:01
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i think the motivation behind resetting in book universe is to have an easily identifiable foreign other as the antagonist without the author having to spend a lot of words building up
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Aug 28, 2020 18:02
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huhwhat posted:i think the motivation behind resetting in book universe is to have an easily identifiable foreign other as the antagonist without the author having to spend a lot of words building up Part of it is that American foreign policy itself is incoherent and the "Clancy-verse" reflects that. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 18:19 on Aug 28, 2020 |
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Aug 28, 2020 18:08
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american foreign policy being "america first" is p clear to anyone on the receiving end, though tbf "[nation] first" is also the foreign policy of other nations. its just that if ur trying to get more details than that or figure out some grand strategy behind the 4d chess moves being made ur going to end up being sorely disappointed
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Aug 28, 2020 18:26
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Malkina_ posted:Great post. This reason alone is why I prefer China to win the next Cold War. China is literally the last major country with a functional government somewhat independent of finance-capital (fascism). It’s illustrated quite nicely in this exchange: Please don't base your knowledge of China off of Deus Ex. Or at least play past the first hour to when you get to China and realize that it's independence from the UN is entirely in service of protecting and enriching local tyrants. Finance-capital plays a huge corrupt role in the CCP and much of it's platform is shaped by SOEs and the politicians that have massive financial stakes in them
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Aug 28, 2020 18:55
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corollary to that dont base ur knowledge of chinar off of forum goons and western sources
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Aug 28, 2020 19:00
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huhwhat posted:american foreign policy being "america first" is p clear to anyone on the receiving end, though tbf "[nation] first" is also the foreign policy of other nations. its just that if ur trying to get more details than that or figure out some grand strategy behind the 4d chess moves being made ur going to end up being sorely disappointed Granted, I think part of it is specifically an American issue of geniuses in the beltway thinking up some new grand strategy every year or so coupled with new administrations.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:02
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Ardennes posted:It is a good way to judge the success of commercialized bug-eyed nationalism. Dugin needed a Jack Ryan if he really wanted to sell copies. I think the difference is that Clancy had editors and it was genre fiction, "airport" fiction at that, which is something that's very controlled and has to follow rules like romance novels. Jack Ryan and the other characters couldn't really change or grow because someone has to be able to pick up the book, know what's going on without reading the other books. While it's part of this trilogy of sorts, it's set up as a standalone for those reasons. The problem is that there was an increasing scale of one upping previous books to keep the fans hooked but this ultimately ends in the real world being changed dramatically. Tom Clancy was mostly for men who jerked off to Jane's catalogs and his antagonists were generally people conservatives whined about, like Greenpeace for instance. I don't think something like Rainbow Six influenced politics in any stretch, other than being entertainment for right leaning miltech nerds. Dugin himself is a pseudo intellectual that doesn't really have editors from what I understand. It's just him rambling about the ravings of past lunatics about how the Russian people contain a unique soul that's pumped up on murder energy while the rest of the world is weak or whatever. Unless I'm wrong, he's never tried his hand at fiction but if he did, I'm sure it would make Clancy look like a savant. I wish China didn't have laws about it because I'm sure there'd be some wild Clancy type stuff out of China judging by the military fanfiction sites that are popular with the PLA.
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Aug 28, 2020 19:30
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At the same time though do you really want super long admins Also idk if it came up in here but some other names that have come up are Fumio Kishida, Abe's foreign ministry guy, and Taro Kono, the defense minister. Kono is really hawkish so we'll see who wins out. Kishida was Abe's personal choice but he might not have legislative support.
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