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I don't know how well-regarded Beau is ITT, but I watch his videos a lot. He uploaded one this morning about this very thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3KJQ-Cckdg
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Stultus Maximus posted:I've read enough poo poo from arfcom, free republic, Zyklon Ben, and other far right nuts over the last decade (thanks to SA). They have been told for decades that a Democratic government is an existential threat to liberty via FEMA death camps and New World Order UN stormtroopers, but the average Democratic voter is a limp-wristed soy boy who will literally shake and piss himself at the sight of a manly man with a gun. So with a Republican manly man controlling the government, they feel free to strap on their arsenals and wander into left wing protests because there won't be a real threat and if anyone throws a bottle it's open season. They've been fantasizing about going into cities and having open season on hippies and "urban ferals" for decades and they think it's their chance now. The Kenosha Kid was explicitly doing this and assumed that the cops would be on his side. We'll see if the jury is. They are probably right that the cops and might be right that the juries will support them. They didn't count on left wing protesters being armed and using the same reasoning about shooting first. After Kyle Rittenhouse's actions, armed left wing protesters are going to be a lot more jumpy and shoot a lot faster rather than risk being gunned down by militia nuts. We're also careening toward a worsening of the recession and potential start of a no-poo poo Big-D Depression. One thing people forget (or rather, probably don't want to remember) is that the Great Depression started ~1.5-2 years *after* the stock market crash. The Titanic didn't sink immediately after hitting the iceberg, it took time.
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Man I teed up the 1st ep of "It Could Happen Here" while mowing the law this morning and uh gently caress that was way way too on the nose considering the last 72-96h. gently caress.
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Local police are saying he was acting in self defense and no charges will be brought.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Local police are saying he was acting in self defense and no charges will be brought. So what options does this leave you with?
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Doc Hawkins posted:I think that they're correct that only one side is armed and organized. I'd go further and say, it's also the only side with political representation. With the size of the US and political dispersion, I certainly feel like there are some places that are more ripe for this sort of thing than others. I can imagine that this would happen in the northwest and parts of the american south with smaller or isolated incidences of violence elsewhere. Like someone said, I really hope we can find one of the off ramps from this somehow. I have a maybe naive hope that there will at least be an attempt to ratchet things down, but who knows. I've worked hard to try and get my anxiety and anger issues under control and all this poo poo going on doesn't help with that at all. I wish I could just find a button and make everything go back to normal.
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That Works posted:So what options does this leave you with? Civil litigation.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Local police are saying he was acting in self defense and no charges will be brought.  Sounds very legit and well reasoned.
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That Works posted:So what options does this leave you with? I'm trying to figure it out.
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Aug 30, 2020 17:40
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Mr. Nice! posted:Local police are saying he was acting in self defense and no charges will be brought. lol didn't gun guy punch first? lmao that if you got shot in the face while kneeling the chuds would currently be screaming that it was self defense and old buddy would be speaking at the rnc
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Carry and shoot first Not being shot first means concealed is safer, if you can do it legally. Incidentally, almost anyone in this thread would be very welcome in the SRA.
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm trying to figure it out. Please don’t feel like you have to discuss pending litigation here in case his attorney goes after your post history or something.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Not being shot first means concealed is safer, if you can do it legally. Not a huge fan of the USSR imagery used in it. Seems like trading one terrible thing for something equally bad.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Not being shot first means concealed is safer, if you can do it legally. I'm really kinda nervous about my decision that I'm not currently safe with a gun  Midjack posted:Please don’t feel like you have to discuss pending litigation here in case his attorney goes after your post history or something. iirc Mr Nice has a degree in law, so I hope he has a handle on what to do 
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Midjack posted:Please don’t feel like you have to discuss pending litigation here in case his attorney goes after your post history or something. Not that I assume anyone in here is a lawyer, but how would you subpoena someones posting history? During discovery do you go up to the opposing lawyer and say "I want all social media and forums accounts linked to your client, and also a print out of all his posts dating between x and y". To verify it do you hire detectives to go on various sites [reddit/somethingawful/4chan] to look for evidence that posterx==guyx?
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Since loving South Duhkota isn't exactly a hotbed of protest I have nothing to attend. The Also, fun COVID update: there's been a fallout from both Sturgis and the stupid County Fair which they insisted on having. There's been an uptick in cases and the state is starting to make quarantine lists, as in if you travel from here you get to chill for two weeks in several states, including Chicago. Two confirmed cases on campus but I have at least ten students saying they've been exposed. It's not Alabama but this is a small school so as it rises numbers will matter. Rumors of the school going completely online again are so big that the President actually sent out an email trying to disprove them. Been reading about Prison riots. The New Mexico riot in 1980 is batshit insane. Attica in 1971 is way more organized and interesting. It's amazing that in both the CO's were completely untrained and unprepared and nothing changed.
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LingcodKilla posted:Not a huge fan of the USSR imagery used in it. Seems like trading one terrible thing for something equally bad. SRA has all types and you'd be very welcome in the Puget Sound Chapter. When you're back from Italy I wouldn't mind bringing you along to a range day if you want to actually check it out crab dad
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RFC2324 posted:I'm really kinda nervous about my decision that I'm not currently safe with a gun I'm not exactly an ideal firearms owner, but no mental health doctor is going to convince me to get rid of my guns. Not with the mess coming down on us now. Just glad I didn't offload them after my VA stay. Really could do with finding some .38 special and .357 mag ammo. That isn't 60¢ and 80¢ a round.
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Midjack posted:Please don’t feel like you have to discuss pending litigation here in case his attorney goes after your post history or something. Yeah, this. Time to go radio silent. Defenestrategy posted:Not that I assume anyone in here is a lawyer, but how would you subpoena someones posting history? You can ask for it during discovery. *edit* Oh wait he's a fellow law goon? I'll stop throwing in my two cents then.
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LingcodKilla posted:Not a huge fan of the USSR imagery used in it. Seems like trading one terrible thing for something equally bad. Same. Not worth answering questions about for work, either.
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Doc Hawkins posted:I think that they're correct that only one side is armed and organized. I'd go further and say, it's also the only side with political representation. I mean yeah let's not pretend which side the government will fall on
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Defenestrategy posted:Not that I assume anyone in here is a lawyer, but how would you subpoena someones posting history? Nice is an attorney so he has a better handle on that than I do. However, I'm aware of multiple legal happenings that have pulled in SA post histories (custody and stalker stuff), and we have no idea if the aggressor or one of his friends is reading this thread.
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Milo and POTUS posted:I mean yeah let's not pretend which side the government will fall on Will? They made that choice decades ago.
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EBB posted:hi fbi They're here building their case against Mr nice for shoving his face in the way of that brave patriots gun
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Doc Hawkins posted:The argument you made was that cross-racial solidarity makes you feel bad, and that Obama makes black people feel good. This was your response to others saying that voting booths won't help stop white supremacist violence. No, my response was towards people here and on twitter acting incredulous over the fact LeBron and a group of NBA players reached out to Obama of all people for advice. Feel free to go find the post where I said that by merely voting we would solve the problem white supremacy and police brutality. I'll wait. Doc Hawkins posted:You're consistently talking about feelings, presentation, marketing, approval ratings...in short, celebrity. Things you can appreciate but accept as being out of your hands, except that you can argue over their interpretation. Feelings are a huge driver behind why many people vote, strike, or demonstrate for/against particular things. This isn't a controversial argument with most people. Sorry if you feel differently. Also, sorry if you see the statement that Obama is still deeply popular within the black community as "presentation, marketing...celebrity", I don't know what the gently caress you want to hear but my apologies I'm not here to echo-chamber for you. Doc Hawkins posted:You're living in a world of dreams and punching at shadows while people are being starved, evicted, and killed. Doc Hawkins posted:Even if I granted the ludicrous premise that voting is the proper and primary way of building power, something worth trading away the most high-profile strike in our lifetime for a miniscule boost to, anyone in this thread could, in a week of volunteering, net more votes for the candidates of their choice in November than they've ever placed personally in their life. It isn't hard, even when you're as dumb as I am. Your individual vote is nothing to waste time being proud of, other people's individual vote is nothing to waste time badgering them over. First off, I don't give a poo poo how you or anyone else here ultimately votes. Please feel free to find my posts that I spent time badgering people here to vote or vote for Biden or Bernie or any other candidate. If someone here wants to make the argument that voting is useless, I'm free to take issue with that argument, but I could care a less if that specific poster votes or not. It's not my problem nor am I going to spend my time thinking about it. Second, myself and several other people here have said multiple times, voting is not the ultimate solution to these problems but it is one thing that you can do in addition to several other actions to push for the change you want to see in the world. You can disagree with that premise all you want, but no one here including myself said that merely voting will solve this problem. If you want to keep strawmanning my argument, feel free but I'm done with it. Mr. Nice! posted:Local police are saying he was acting in self defense and no charges will be brought. That is straight up bullshit. Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Aug 30, 2020 |
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He (Mr. Nice) is talking about the rear end in a top hat who pulled a gun on him, Ralph.
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No I know, I was stating that charges not getting brought up against that rear end in a top hat is bullshit.
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Here's the guy that got shot yesterday in Portland, just defending the guy that murdered two people on public transit (in 2017) https://twitter.com/itsmikebivins/status/871099079710953472?s=19 He's no angel etc.
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Handsome Ralph posted:No, my response was towards people here and on twitter acting incredulous over the fact LeBron and a group of NBA players reached out to Obama of all people for advice. Feel free to go find the post where I said that by merely voting we would solve the problem white supremacy and police brutality. I'll wait. Handsome Ralph posted:Also "practically nothing" in this case was getting the owners to turn arenas into voting centers and spending money to drive turnout among other things. Handsome Ralph posted:Asking this in good faith, what did you realistically expect them to do here? I slept on this question and don't think I gave it question the answer it deserved. If you mean, what did I predict they would do, then I hadn't given it any thought. If you mean, what could they realistically have done in the short term, each team could have demanded the appropriate office-holders in their cities commit to defunding or disarming or really loving anything the police. Wait for the owners to call them and put them through the wringer. Have a big joint press conference, shake hands, smiling for the cameras. "We're so glad we can count on you." Then later if they back out, announce how betrayed and disappointed you are and strike again. quote:Feelings are a huge driver behind why many people vote, strike, or demonstrate for/against particular things. This isn't a controversial argument with most people. Sorry if you feel differently. Also, sorry if you see the statement that Obama is still deeply popular within the black community as "presentation, marketing...celebrity", I don't know what the gently caress you want to hear but my apologies I'm not here to echo-chamber for you. You left "approval ratings" out from that list, hopefully because you're able to see exactly how it connects. Even if not, people were spitting on the ground at the mention of a strikebreaker, and you were exclaiming that famous LeBron James famously likes the famous Obamas and who could object to him calling on them?? Probably racists! You're engaging with the world at the level of personality, hurt feelings, and yes, celebrity. Figure it out. quote:Oh gently caress right off dude, you have no idea the struggles or problems I've faced or continue to face. I don't pretend to know yours nor am I going to pretend that I do based on your posts here. I didn't realize that I'm only qualified to post about any of this unless my or my family's personal hardships met your litmus tests. If you want to project, go find someone else to do it with I made no claims and hold no beliefs about hardships you've faced. It seems that's a sensitive subject to you. You don't deserve to be subject to litmus tests, and I hope you choose to stop applying them to others.
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PookBear posted:https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/portland-wins-wear-fox-hat-oregon-license-photo-article-1.2564433 Lame.  Pastafarians figured this poo poo out a long time ago.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Less a dogwhistle than a fascsignal Kinda interesting to go through the comments to see how many are pretty blatant sock puppet or bot accounts. Many “left the left,” “left the plantation,” or “Former democrat,” all of which are POC, posting in support of a white supremacist.
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Slim Pickens posted:Here's the guy that got shot yesterday in Portland, just defending the guy that murdered two people on public transit (in 2017) Him saying poo poo like that and it’s a wonder someone didn’t shoot him much sooner.
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