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Huh, so apparently the Draw! perk works works with all guns including bazooka's, meaning you can fire a rocket, reload and then shoot another rocket for free. That seems pretty busted and counter to the theme of the perk but brb gotta run up small guns and make it rain fire I guess.
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Bardeh posted:If you want to keep them alive you basically can't use shotguns or explosives. Also, I don't know if it's bugged, but I'm playing on Normal, which says FF is disabled, but it most definitely is not. I think Friendly Fire is disabled as to normal weapon shots, like you aren't going to accidentally get one of your characters with a missed assault rifle shot. But if you knowingly fire a shotgun or flamethrower arc into them, they're still taking that damage. Speaking of which, I think I'm going to dump my melee characters altogether and go full guns. Just haven't had a lot of luck with them, it seems like they spend half the battle running around trying to get in position while my sniper has already killed the person they were going for, and then they are in the way of my shotgunner and flamethrower, and plus in more danger of getting killed since they are up where all the exploding bombers or pigs or whatever other bullshit is going on in the middle of the battlefield.
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Eason the Fifth posted:Is co-op any good? The idea behind it is fantastic, and there's a lot of nice quality of life UI stuff to support coop(shared inventory, using the skills of allies for checks if they're close to you). However, right now it's critically bugged to the point where progression is nearly impossible in co-op, so it's going to need some patching before it's worth playing specifically for co-op. Singleplayer is mostly fine.
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Eason the Fifth posted:Is co-op any good? In concept, yes, but it's effectively unplayable at the moment due to bugs and instability.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:should I side with Brian or the marshals? That conflict confused me a bit. you have basically irrefutable evidence that brian had nothing to do with the attack. am I supposed to arrest the crime boss for the crime of not ratting on his crime friends? seems like a stretch. I guess you are supposed to assume the marshalls just want to get rid of him , but besides the inherent shadyness of running a casino/brothel, the dude seem pretty alright, and hes probably a pretty important part of the local economy .
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I'm at around level 16 for my group with rank 5-7 weapons. Here's how the power balance has shifted on jerk:
No melee characters. Regarding upgrades, I'm finding that the +range scopes are important to making flamer, pistol, shotgun, and smg characters shine. It's hard finding that many though, so I'm always chasing that gear. Despite field stripping tons of guns I still haven't gotten one through RNG. BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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The writing in this game keeps growing on me. There are a surprising number of interesting and memorable characters, and the game does a much better job of straddling the silly/serious line than its predecessors and other similar games like the Divinity series. For example I found a very silly joke about a man growing cabbage patch kids that was actually quite touching. I also really want to find out who the Creepy Smile Lady is. I just wish they toned the edginess down a bit, I dont need every gang to be a bunch of murderous psychos who want to eat people and gently caress their guts
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babypolis posted:That conflict confused me a bit. you have basically irrefutable evidence that brian had nothing to do with the attack. am I supposed to arrest the crime boss for the crime of not ratting on his crime friends? seems like a stretch. I guess you are supposed to assume the marshalls just want to get rid of him , but besides the inherent shadyness of running a casino/brothel, the dude seem pretty alright, and hes probably a pretty important part of the local economy . I mean the game isn't really subtle about beating you over the head with how awful and corrupt the Patriarch and his Marshals are. A lot of the game is about how a ton of chickens are coming home to roost and the Colorado state is completely falling apart in favor of new power centers and giving you the choice to either prop up the current order or undermine them
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Aug 31, 2020 01:34
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:
Same.
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Zore posted:I mean the game isn't really subtle about beating you over the head with how awful and corrupt the Patriarch and his Marshals are. A lot of the game is about how a ton of chickens are coming home to roost and the Colorado state is completely falling apart in favor of new power centers and giving you the choice to either prop up the current order or undermine them Yeah now that I think about it having the brave cowboy friendly law abiding sheriffs who say things like "howdy do stranger" being the bad guys while the crime boss is actually, not exactly good, but not quite as bad either, is a pretty decent subversion of ye olde fallout formula
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Aug 31, 2020 01:38
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babypolis posted:That conflict confused me a bit. you have basically irrefutable evidence that brian had nothing to do with the attack. am I supposed to arrest the crime boss for the crime of not ratting on his crime friends? seems like a stretch. I guess you are supposed to assume the marshalls just want to get rid of him , but besides the inherent shadyness of running a casino/brothel, the dude seem pretty alright, and hes probably a pretty important part of the local economy . Yeah except when you talk to him he lets on that while he didn't actively let them in he did 100% know about the plan and didn't stop it
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speaking of the crime boss, absolute lmao at Discobot during the club shootout
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Phobeste posted:Yeah except when you talk to him he lets on that while he didn't actively let them in he did 100% know about the plan and didn't stop it Yeah, he's absolutely guilty by association because he covered his own rear end rather than let the marshals know one of his boys had gone rogue, which let the Dorseys attack by surprise. He's not a good guy and the only reason he's nice to you is he's hoping you're going to help him continue covering his rear end.
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Aug 31, 2020 02:06
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I really like the auto-loot for bodies. If you loot one corpse in the room it gets everyone, so you're not having to go from meatbag to meatbag.
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Aug 31, 2020 02:19
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holy gently caress the lords of war mission, this game is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOPh5ltbAw
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Aug 31, 2020 02:36
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lmao i clicked on one interactable object, then another before the first opened, and the interface locked up and wouldn't let me move or do anything, and it's done that on all my save games now.
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Aug 31, 2020 02:46
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It's going to be hilarious when Microsoft drops a huge wad of money on InXile to create a new open world Wasteland, so that they can eat Bethesda's lunch with better first party versions of BOTH Fallout and Elder Scrolls.
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Kanos posted:Yeah, he's absolutely guilty by association because he covered his own rear end rather than let the marshals know one of his boys had gone rogue, which let the Dorseys attack by surprise. He's not a good guy and the only reason he's nice to you is he's hoping you're going to help him continue covering his rear end. Yeah but he still comes off way better than the crazy assholes willing to shoot up a nightclub filled with civilians because they didnt get exactly what they wanted
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So how do I make the laxative in Aspen? Did I miss a note? Googling for a guide just says "use the mixer" but no combination of chemicals Edit: I wiki'd the chemical compound for a laxative and ended up with Sodium, Hydrogen, Oxygen-4, and Phosphorus Edit 2: Oh cool, gave it to the guy and the key doesn't drop. Guess I'll come back with lockpick Endymion FRS MK1 fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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I don't know why but I love the serbitors and the whole computer log entry series where the computer system's logs have more and more b's inserted Edit: There's a bug (on PS4 at least) where switching characters after interacting with a menu screen can cause a frozen menu screen that you can't exit. I found a way to avoid it; basically whenever you're going to switch characters on a menu screen (e.g. on the perks screen), switch to a different menu tab and back before switching characters (i.e. press R2 L2 R1 instead of just R1) deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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I had a similar bug on Xbox at a vendor. I think I might have switched characters, but I didn’t realize I was hosed for a bit. Had to close the game from the Xbox dashboard and restart.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:So how do I make the laxative in Aspen? Did I miss a note? Googling for a guide just says "use the mixer" but no combination of chemicals
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highme posted:I had a similar bug on Xbox at a vendor. I think I might have switched characters, but I didn’t realize I was hosed for a bit. Had to close the game from the Xbox dashboard and restart. Yeah, the first time it happened to me was at a vendor too and I'm actually not 100% sure if I switched characters there, but I didn't notice it until I had accidentally sold off half my inventory hammering buttons to try and exit  I also had to close the game to the ps4 dashboard and re-launch it for that one.On the Perks screen when it happens I can fix it by changing tabs, but in a vendor there aren't different tabs to switch between so it sucks when it happens there.
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babypolis posted:Yeah but he still comes off way better than the crazy assholes willing to shoot up a nightclub filled with civilians because they didnt get exactly what they wanted On the topic of the game not being subtle when you go into the secret bunker that Angela Death tips you off about, she try's to sell it like some hugely aha! evil thing, but it left me feeling like it wasn't. Even some of the dialog options when you leave the bunker match that. I get that the patriarch had to do some shady poo poo to stay in power, but the people you're supposed to free are even worse than him, and they plan to continue doing it. I love that I was able to straight up say "I don't associated with slavers" and killed them right there. This is so early in the game and it just keeps going after that... real interested to see where things go. Doing my best to do an independent play-through, where I prop the rangers on top and none of the other powers. Just impressed you can straight up murder major characters and the main plot just adjusts and rolls with it
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I feel like every other character in this game must be some reference to something else and I just don't get it. I just met Satoshi, which I only know is a reference from listening to salt mining podcasts about his imposter / bitcoin, which is honestly a fairly deep cut
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BULBASAUR posted:On the topic of the game not being subtle when you go into the secret bunker that Angela Death tips you off about, she try's to sell it like some hugely aha! evil thing, but it left me feeling like it wasn't. Even some of the dialog options when you leave the bunker match that. I get that the patriarch had to do some shady poo poo to stay in power, but the people you're supposed to free are even worse than him, and they plan to continue doing it. I love that I was able to straight up say "I don't associated with slavers" and killed them right there. This is so early in the game and it just keeps going after that... real interested to see where things go. Doing my best to do an independent play-through, where I prop the rangers on top and none of the other powers. I think it's General Woodson who says that Angela sees things in black and white terms. So to her it was totally an "aha!" moment, but that is more about showing who she is as a character than revealing absolute truths.
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Man alive, I hope they come up with a save editor soon. My gunner is a real MVP but having him juggle between machineguns, flamethrowers, and explosives is too much. A more efficient way to do it would've been to have two gunners: one that sits back with a machinegun and rocket launcher, and one that goes aggro with the heaviest armor and a flamethrower, plus either shotguns or brawling gear for preference.
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Man, I had built my party around knowing just the names and general builds of future party members, then I get to the Lords of War one and I just couldn't bring myself to recruit him even if he does have a cool shotgun arm. Maybe in another playthrough, but as it stands this just seems generally morally ridiculous to do. Maybe the game will prove me wrong, but while the Patriarch is clearly not a good person by a significant amount he STILL seems like the least bad option of the ones presented. Hoping I can just take over the entire region as my entirely morally perfect Rangers (ignore all the stealing).
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In the intro, and am I meant to be reduced to punching people to death?
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Zeta Acosta posted:holy gently caress the lords of war mission, this game is awesome Infinity Gaia posted:Man, I had built my party around knowing just the names and general builds of future party members, then I get to the Lords of War one and I just couldn't bring myself to recruit him even if he does have a cool shotgun arm. Maybe in another playthrough, but as it stands this just seems generally morally ridiculous to do. Maybe the game will prove me wrong, but while the Patriarch is clearly not a good person by a significant amount he STILL seems like the least bad option of the ones presented. Hoping I can just take over the entire region as my entirely morally perfect Rangers (ignore all the stealing). Just did this mission Feel a bit mislead about the whole Angela deth leading you to the "truth". Like ok the patriarch is probably a dick but paying the tribes to gently caress off isn't the worst thing, and this dude she wanted me to rescue is 100% bad news and is a proud slaver. So I iced him in his cell right after the fact. Right now Monster Army looks like the nicest people in the region. Maybe they did bad poo poo before I got there but Flab seems like a nice guy. *ed* On Flab's note I did like his whole speech of effectively, "yeah people make fun of me cause im Fat but so loving what I am fat in the post apocalypse and nobody else is, thats proof of my power and how good I got it" Evil Canadian fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Evil Canadian posted:Just did this mission I'm with the dude at the moment. First signs of trouble and i'm going to kill him
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The Lone Badger posted:In the intro, and am I meant to be reduced to punching people to death? No. There is some randomness in the ammo boxes so it can happen. Upthread a goon shared a bug where if you are indecisive during character creation and click between starter weapons, it’ll keep depositing ammo in your inventory which makes the problem go away if you don’t mind slightly cheating and are still stuck in the intro and don’t mind restarting.
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babypolis posted:Yeah but he still comes off way better than the crazy assholes willing to shoot up a nightclub filled with civilians because they didnt get exactly what they wanted The marshals absolutely aren't good dudes, but I can't really blame them in not being super eager to let Brygo continue operating an organization proven to contain rogue agents actively willing to let murderous raiders into the city.
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Infinity Gaia posted:Man, I had built my party around knowing just the names and general builds of future party members, then I get to the Lords of War one and I just couldn't bring myself to recruit him even if he does have a cool shotgun arm. Maybe in another playthrough, but as it stands this just seems generally morally ridiculous to do. Maybe the game will prove me wrong, but while the Patriarch is clearly not a good person by a significant amount he STILL seems like the least bad option of the ones presented. Hoping I can just take over the entire region as my entirely morally perfect Rangers (ignore all the stealing). Evil Canadian posted:Just did this mission Same here. If there's one principal I stick to, its that I kill all slavers On the topic of Flab I decided to try both options, either siding with him or working with Charlie to userp him. My hope was that I could double cross Charlie... and yep, you can! Problem is then nobody is left to defend the place and everybody just leaves. Seems the best option for now is siding with Flab, though I may be proven otherwise later.
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I've decided that I'm gonna be the savior of the refugees. drat the consequences and gently caress those rich fucks that keep talking about how bad I smell.
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Just went to Denver and did quests with the Gippers and murdered every drat one of those Reagan lovers burn in hell fucko's.
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cheesetriangles posted:Just went to Denver and did quests with the Gippers and murdered every drat one of those Reagan lovers burn in hell fucko's. The best thing is that there is absolutely no reason to ever side with the Gippers for any reason mechanically. For their quest the Machine Commune gives you Party Bot (a combat companion that heals, buffs and does ranged damage) if you double cross them vs an incredibly low cash reward. Even if you go through with it and side with them anyways they try to download the Reagan AI into Val which pisses off the Patriarch. And on top of all that there's a clear path to betray them to the creepy cannibals that gives better rewards Also the Machine Commune owns.
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Whew - I'll update the OP with lots of stuff when I can but I've been playing all weekend and tired. Jesus this game is a blast but a couple of bugs I've seen: XBone and Normal Mode. Crash to Desktop: Seems to be mainly when I'm going from the inventory screen. Happens multiple times a day if I play 8 hours. Hoping this will be fixed soon as this game is so much drat fun. I save often so it's not going to make me rawr but it is annoying. Medical Marvel: Glitchy. The xtra HP is nice but if the guy dies then it marks him with a message as unable to revive in combat.... after combat. The guy can also be buggy even if right about to drop (fire or bleeding) and can also be marked as dead. Close out of the game and reload a save seems to be the fix. NPC's using energy weapons: they seem to do the same kinda damage to my guys they would on bots. I'm assuming the -30% damage should apply but it doesn't seem to. Haven't tried it on any non bots as I always forget to swap. Random notes of enjoyment: Major Tom is amazing. Seriously I love this character and any dlc need to make him revivable as I am paranoid of him dying. Love that a family I saved were amazed by the Ranger Cat in a hat. Wolfe's Hunt: So I was back and forth with this one. On one hand the robot had a kid's voice and I felt sorry for him and on the other Gary Wolfe is a racist prick. Yeah the bot said he would probably kill and I was being super naive by not killing him but Gary Wolfe 1) was never recruited in my games as w2 made it hard and it wasn't that good so he was stolen valour as far as I'm concerned 2) Wolfe and company shot up the town a =nd expecting me to clean their mess and 3) called me a simp and a race traitor. Yeah the bot did immediately kill someone going over the wall and carved "thank you for helping me escape" into the corpse so I know this is going to bite me in the rear end but I didn't see anyone else choose this in the walkthrough (was curious) and hoping that Wolfe bites it hard. gently caress that dude.This also fits my naive good guy that means well but is so hosed. Also... still shocked that melee isn't that much more effective than guns. Also wish there was more knifey perks. Waiting till a certain companion to try brawling though I might reroll one of my four custom.
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toasterwarrior posted:Man alive, I hope they come up with a save editor soon. My gunner is a real MVP but having him juggle between machineguns, flamethrowers, and explosives is too much. A more efficient way to do it would've been to have two gunners: one that sits back with a machinegun and rocket launcher, and one that goes aggro with the heaviest armor and a flamethrower, plus either shotguns or brawling gear for preference. Heavy weapons and explosives on the same guy feels natural at the beginning of the game, but then I quickly realized I wanted to have a flamethrower and a machine gun and a rocket launcher equipped and that doesn't really work. Still fiddling around with different builds to see where a rocket launcher would make the most sense and I'm leaning toward on my sniper.
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