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Eimi posted:Hell I think the gender law this time will even let you just make the world enatic if I remember previews correctly. Oh wow, it's great if they are offering more customization this time around. I haven't been following the dev diaries very closely.
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Eimi posted:Hell I think the gender law this time will even let you just make the world enatic if I remember previews correctly. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can just start as e.g. enatic and majority-homosexual, but I'm not sure if that will give the existing titles to the highest eligible woman and make everyone gay, or if it'll start things as normal but all the rulers will be naming their daughters as heirs and wondering why they're not showing interest in boys.
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I'll be monitoring the thread to see how the reception to the game is! I'm done pre-ordering Paradox games after Imperator's disastrous release, hopefully this has the polish CK2 and EU4 had on release.
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disaster pastor posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can just start as e.g. enatic and majority-homosexual, but I'm not sure if that will give the existing titles to the highest eligible woman and make everyone gay, or if it'll start things as normal but all the rulers will be naming their daughters as heirs and wondering why they're not showing interest in boys. Would that also change the religious virtues? Because if not it would probably lead to a bunch of rebellions.
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AnEdgelord posted:CK3 is number 2 on the steam Global Best Sellers list behind Fall Guys (hugs my little bean game while waiting for the massive download) e: I just noticed that buying from the Paradox Store gives you way more hats. Main Game Garments Of The Holy Roman Empire (bonus) Expansion Pass: - Fashion of the Abbasid Court (Available day 1) - First Flavor Pack - First Major Expansion - Second Flavor Pack Cancelling the steam order now. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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Florry just showed inbreeding in the Encyclopedia, apparently if you consistently inbreed throughout the generations you have a chance of getting the "pure-blood" trait, which makes offspring immune to birth defects due to all flaws having been bred out of the bloodline 
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Arsenic Lupin posted:(hugs my little bean game while waiting for the massive download) That's just the royal edition I think? You can pre-order that on Steam too.
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Is forming custom nations and empires carried over from CKII? Also, is the Isle of Mann still associated with a titular duchy?
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canepazzo posted:Florry just showed inbreeding in the Encyclopedia, apparently if you consistently inbreed throughout the generations you have a chance of getting the "pure-blood" trait, which makes offspring immune to birth defects due to all flaws having been bred out of the bloodline It's my amateur biology understanding that this is about how it would work in the real world, too.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:(hugs my little bean game while waiting for the massive download) Magil Zeal posted:That's just the royal edition I think? You can pre-order that on Steam too. Yeah, there's 1 pack of clothes you get for preordering the game at all (Garments of the HRE.), and the second one you get from the Expansion pass (Abbasid court.)) Those are on Steam as well. e: I do like the regional pricing for the game, here in Norway the base game is ~35usd, and the royal edition ~51usd. 
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Magil Zeal posted:That's just the royal edition I think? You can pre-order that on Steam too. Ohhhh. No, it's confusing formatting. The bonus content shows up, but in a darker white to signify that it's not included.
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SubNat posted:e: I do like the regional pricing for the game, here in Norway the base game is ~35usd, and the royal edition ~51usd. They sometimes update prices at inopportune moments when the exchange rate gets too out of whack, which is also the only reason I'm considering preordering tonight juuuuust in case.. Like the EUR price of €50 converted straight to NOK currently is about 50% higher than the Steam price
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Eimi posted:Hell I think the gender law this time will even let you just make the world enatic if I remember previews correctly. okay instead of world conquest i wanna see world mandatory gay gynarchy.
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Torrannor posted:It's my amateur biology understanding that this is about how it would work in the real world, too. Of course, there's the Habsburg Failure Mode.
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Torrannor posted:It's my amateur biology understanding that this is about how it would work in the real world, too. Yeah there's some precedent for it, as there were some aggressively incestuous dynasties in history that ended up more or less normal after awhile.
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Dramicus posted:Would that also change the religious virtues? Because if not it would probably lead to a bunch of rebellions. Don't know, very excited to find out!
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Yeah there's some precedent for it, as there were some aggressively incestuous dynasties in history that ended up more or less normal after awhile. Basically all those kids who inherited the damaging genes died, leaving the rest with mostly intact genes (and low genetic diversity, which has it's own set of problems). But this only works if you really let the deformed kids die, instead of using your massive wealth to keep them alive because their parents have two sets of titles for the child to inherit.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Of course, there's the Habsburg Failure Mode. I mean, it kind of requires that you stop letting the defective ones breed.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Yeah there's some precedent for it, as there were some aggressively incestuous dynasties in history that ended up more or less normal after awhile. Got a source on that? Because that's wild and awful.
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there's precedent yes, but it's fair to mention that historians alternatively suppose that a lot of the most incestuous dynasties were just having extremely consanguineous marriages for political/religious reasons (e.g. pharaohs were divine and carried divine blood, and that's something they don't want others to have access to via out-marriages) and that dynastic heirs were actually results from concubines Torrannor posted:It's my amateur biology understanding that this is about how it would work in the real world, too. it works better in species that can have a lot of offspring because you're going to end up with a lot of premature corpses hard counter fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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I'm trying really hard not to buy this as I was terrible at ckii, but... More noob-friendly sounds appealing.
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a mysterious cloak posted:I'm trying really hard not to buy this as I was terrible at ckii, but... More noob-friendly sounds appealing. It took me 180 hours until I felt that I could make change in the CK2 world rather than just react to what others were doing, so I feel you. Maybe I’m just not particularly great at strategy games, though—in xcom my brain starts straining when I get up to 6 squad members. CK2 had that ‘click’, though, where once you have all of the mechanics and weird rules (oops i pressed a claim for some guy and he made a 1 county petty kingdom and won’t join me) figured out it’s smooth sailing, so hopefully this makes it easier for people to get to the okay level.
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Has anyone put together a list/summary of what was carried over from CK2 and what was left behind? Even though it's been like two years since I played CK2 (and based on my attempts at Monarch's Journey challenges, I remember nothing), I'm still kind of curious what the big picture carry over was.
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nessin posted:Has anyone put together a list/summary of what was carried over from CK2 and what was left behind? Even though it's been like two years since I played CK2 (and based on my attempts at Monarch's Journey challenges, I remember nothing), I'm still kind of curious what the big picture carry over was. Please read the very second post in this thread 
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a mysterious cloak posted:I'm trying really hard not to buy this as I was terrible at ckii, but... More noob-friendly sounds appealing. I’m in the same boat, I’ve always really liked the idea of CK2. I pick it up and play a game every once in a while and have fun but never felt like I really got a good enough grasp on it to really get the most out of it. I think I’m going to cave and buy CK3 though because CK2 but more noob friendly sounds great.
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LordMune posted:With a tem outta I didn't think your reputation was stained because Stellaris is still my favorite and I have over 2000 hours in it  That first fact may change though given what these reviews of CK3 are saying 
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It's come up before in the thread, but I really really like how well made and varied the character avatars are. The screenshots in the IGN review show off a couple asian and middle-eastern characters as well. ( https://www.ign.com/articles/crusader-kings-3-review ) And it's just nice to see such breadth in character looks without the characters looking 'off', it's obvious they put a lot of work into it. I'm super curious as to how easy/difficult it'll be to add clothing and body/face morphs/tweaks. It would be very neat to see fashions come and go in eras, as well either through mods or as part of cosmetic or primary DLC. A shame the clothing seems to come as premade sets, as opposed to supporting multiple parts / varying materials, but I guess I wouldn't be surprised if that's something that eventually gets implemented later on. (I think I saw the clothing editor pop up in one of the pre-release videos, where it's just a list of the various clothing sets + a hat.) Does Paradox tend to give out modding materials + references to build off of, with their first-party stuff? It would be kind of fun to make some clothes and etc for this if the importer/setup isn't too tedious.
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I was sorta meh on having full bodies and 3D faces but now that we can play Pretty Princess Dress-Up with our characters (we can pick their clothes right????) I'm more onboard. It's also clear they put a lot of effort into the art. Which makes me wonder: will we be able to have men dress as women or women dress as men? Would be interesting if you could take a female character and have her disguise herself as a man so she could be a knight/general.
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Yeah I'm really amazed at the 3D models. I was super skeptical when they first announced them but wow, they really made it both work and be an incredible improvement over portraits. Edit: Oh looking at the streams it looks like pretty much all the game rules are back. Custom kingdoms, shattered world/random faiths is in too. Although it also looks like you can rename any title you hold at any time as well. Zeron fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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axeil posted:(we can pick their clothes right?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=289TqIqDLJQ @ 9m:29s You can edit (I assume anyone in your direct 'household' as it were.) the clothes characters have. I assume it overrides whatever they get by default from position + culture etc.
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Ms Adequate posted:Stellaris is still my favorite and I have over 2000 hours in it Paradox thinks it's a good idea to release CK3, but the joke's on them. I won't have to buy another game for the next 10 years!
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Well well well guess who found out that their company has Friday off for a 4 day weekend? Getting the long socks and large-mouth water bottles out of the ol musty closet.
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SubNat posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=289TqIqDLJQ Ah good to know. I still wonder if we can have female characters with high intrigue + martial change their clothes in an attempt to become a knight like Joan of Arc did. That'd be a neat playthrough.
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Ms Adequate posted:I didn't think your reputation was stained because Stellaris is still my favorite and I have over 2000 hours in it hello to my new favorite poster Zeron posted:Yeah I'm really amazed at the 3D models. I was super skeptical when they first announced them but wow, they really made it both work and be an incredible improvement over portraits. The art team truly went above and beyond. We all did; this is not a game Paradox Dev Studio could have released as late as just a couple of years ago. Not that there won't be missteps and disappointments (in other titles) in the future, but I feel CK3 has fundamentally transformed the games we make and how we make them.
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Dramicus posted:Paradox thinks it's a good idea to release CK3, but the joke's on them. I won't have to buy another game for the next 10 years! Joke's on you, that's what the DLC is for!
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LordMune posted:The art team truly went above and beyond. We all did; this is not a game Paradox Dev Studio could have released as late as just a couple of years ago. Not that there won't be missteps and disappointments (in other titles) in the future, but I feel CK3 has fundamentally transformed the games we make and how we make them. Of course I haven't played the game yet, but just watching it being played has been so interesting. It really looks like CK3 is a masterclass. It's looking like you guys have a lot to be proud of. Dallan Invictus posted:Joke's on you, that's what the DLC is for! FOILED AGAIN! BLAST!
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LordMune posted:The art team truly went above and beyond. We all did; this is not a game Paradox Dev Studio could have released as late as just a couple of years ago. Not that there won't be missteps and disappointments (in other titles) in the future, but I feel CK3 has fundamentally transformed the games we make and how we make them. Congrats on making what looks to be a phenomenal game, and I was also on the Stellaris train from the start! I'm curious though, what changed internally to allow for the kind of shift you speak of? Is it simply good project management and tech investment?
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