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Guavanaut posted:If that's what he got from the man on the street, I think we have a solution to the London/London problem. I mean you know who's constituency that is now? Big John "Arm" McDonnell. 491: ON THIS DAY IN 1997 (yeah gently caress you I'm bringing back 'on this day') the princcess of are 'arts died in a mysterious car crash. Miftan fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Aug 31, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:We usually have words for people who claim to hear disembodied voices.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:10 |
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OwlFancier posted:I don't recommend it because it has the same energy as yelling at turds on the pavement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61W-ZkmYtU
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:29 |
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I'd like to revise my answer for words for people who claim to hear disembodied voices.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:31 |
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In coronavirus news cases in Bolton, where restrictions are being lifted, have now doubled. It now has the second highest rate in Greater Manchester. The lifting of restrictions is clearly linked to the progress of the disease and unrelated to it having a Tory council.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:44 |
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The fact that this oval office was able to freely walk the streets without receiving a brick to the skull is a far greater blemish to the reputation of the fine people of London than anything else I've heard recently.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:45 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Both of these rapidly run into a problem that should be a lot more obvious to people on the Left, or at least I'd hope would be - that by saying the problem is London, you're saying the solution is no more London. I've heard lots of variants on this ITT and elsewhere, even (most ridiculously) immediately after the EU referendum. Now quite apart from the blatant stupidity of this argument - you could Fight Club the entirety of the City and Canary Wharf and all of this poo poo *would* happen elsewhere because it's a societal problem, not evil eldritch powers emanating from clay soil - even if it were true, you're still saying "Yeah gently caress it, 9 million people are acceptably collateral damage because gently caress them for living in London". I've literally never seen anyone, even the most obnoxious scot nats, make anything close to the jump you're making in that first sentence. People are being imperfect maybe in not communicating/understanding the difference between the City of London and London fine but there's no need to defend the right to life of the normal people that live there is not a thing.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:48 |
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At some point if you keep having to issue corrections because people are taking what you say in a way that you did not intend it's probably a good idea to either stop saying it or find another way to say it because the only person it's serving if you don't is yourself. And it's rude to involve other people in your masturbation habits.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 22:52 |
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same, but for inarticulate boomers getting upset because they understand criticism of british adventurism abroad as criticism of britishness itself
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:04 |
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It does come with the implicit assumption that you care about convincing the other person which I would hope would apply ITT, and would question the utility of applying to people whose greatest possible contribution to the world would be to die as quickly as possible.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:07 |
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I put it to you that London is poo poo. My thesis centers on the fact that London is in the UK. The UK is poo poo, ergo London is too.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:10 |
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cool OK so now I'm offended on behalf of the baby boomer generation (because I am one/care about people in that cohort). I will charitably assume you aren't actually advocating democide and await your apology/clarification with bated breath
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:14 |
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OwlFancier posted:At some point if you keep having to issue corrections because people are taking what you say in a way that you did not intend it's probably a good idea to either stop saying it or find another way to say it because the only person it's serving if you don't is yourself. And it's rude to involve other people in your masturbation habits. Even taken as a truism that's dogshit though, if we're assuming all points are equally potentially valid then the dissident view which people are misinterpreting is inherently more valid, because the broader view is more likely to be imposed by the superstructure. If you're constantly giving corrections/specificities then keep at it because you're arguing against an assumed knowledge, that's based, it's only when you're ignoring the counter arguments and being dogmatic that you're playing the oval office and are maybe being rude.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:18 |
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Lt. Danger posted:cool OK so now I'm offended on behalf of the baby boomer generation (because I am one/care about people in that cohort). I will charitably assume you aren't actually advocating democide and await your apology/clarification with bated breath I will retract my comment if you tell me about your brave acts of heroism on the beaches of normandy.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:19 |
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I can tell you about my brave acts of hedonism on the beaches of normandy if that counts??
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:20 |
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Lt. Danger posted:I can tell you about my brave acts of hedonism on the beaches of normandy if that counts?? Work something in about polishing your spitfire and I'll take it.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:22 |
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all bbc comedy will henceforth need to contain at least 50% jokes about diane abbot getting a number wrong once by volume https://twitter.com/TiernanDouieb/status/1300545909412032512
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:24 |
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Lt. Danger posted:cool OK so now I'm offended on behalf of the baby boomer generation (because I am one/care about people in that cohort). This is the normal state of mind for them, yes, even absent any outside stimulus.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:25 |
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The term “London” has not referred to the square-mile City of London since like the 18th century.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:35 |
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Miftan posted:I mean you know who's constituency that is now? Big John "Arm" McDonnell.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:38 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:The term “London” has not referred to the square-mile City of London since like the 18th century. Obviously untrue.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:41 |
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OwlFancier posted:This is the normal state of mind for them, yes, even absent any outside stimulus. cowardice! to be clear I think this thread and the online left in general has a number of catchphrases/assumed positions (like "death to america" "ACAB" "the british empire was a force for evil" "corbyn voted for an asteroid to strike the earth and, hell, same") that we understand as exaggerated rhetoric which obviously isn't literally true but does abbreviate other, actually true things. equally I think we tend to have contempt for people outside our community who come across these concepts and, lacking our knowledge/perspective, become angry or defensive ("all lives matter!") - like, duh, of course we don't literally mean every police officer is a bad person you coddled ignoramus, we mean the purpose of the institution of police is so this feels like somewhat ironic selective outrage where casual off-colour statements suddenly need to be interrogated because maybe when that internet poster described London as a den of scum and villainy they literally meant all 9 million people in London are thieves, muggers and con-men, and this slander cannot stand. I doubt anyone here would argue we should moderate our rhetoric in case it risks distressing a conservative/uninformed voter - isn't that ultimately our criticism of Starmer/the Labour soft left?
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:55 |
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Wait, what? Conservative proposals to abolish or significantly revamp the Electoral Commission https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/31/tory-plans-to-scrap-election-watchdog-undermines-democracy quote:Opposition parties have condemned Conservative proposals to abolish or significantly revamp the Electoral Commission, with Labour saying any move to restrict the elections watchdog risks undermining faith in democracy.
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# ? Aug 31, 2020 23:58 |
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I suppose the difference is I actually do, personally, hate all coppers, think an asteroid would probably be a good thing, and think people who are nationalists are effectively large adult babies. I also, as I said, care more about making the londoners in the thread comfortable than I do about what some lovely boomer thinks about their precious statues or whatever. I don't think there can be any peace or accomodation with that sort of person, any convincing them, I don't think they're receptive to anything I believe in and I don't think they even engage with it other than to complain about it, either they will die fast enough for the rest of us to clear up their mess or they won't, that's the start and end of their involvement in the world.
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A new thread arises, as we head away from the judgment of the sun. Also yes, asteroid good.
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