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I'm in the market for lime bitters to use with rum. Trying to choose between Fee Brothers, Scrappys, or a simple homemade tincture of peeled zest and just enough 151 demarara to cover. Or maybe just buy culinary lime oil/extract? Reviews for Fee seems not good so probably not that. I wish I had access to fresh makrut/kaffir limes. Not just the leaves.
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Comb Your Beard posted:I'm in the market for lime bitters to use with rum. Trying to choose between Fee Brothers, Scrappys, or a simple homemade tincture of peeled zest and just enough 151 demarara to cover. Or maybe just buy culinary lime oil/extract? Scrappys is never a bad decision.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:03
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I’m spoiled because the bar supply shop near me has a bench with over a hundred different bitters on it available for sampling at will.
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Aug 31, 2020 16:36
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wormil posted:The grapefruit bitters were such a success I'd like to try something else (in a much smaller qty) if anyone has a recommendation on homemade bitters. I'm quite impressed with redwood bitters, which right now are just young needles in 100 proof vodka (best I could find on a short trip). It was very underwhelming at 1 week but it's at 2 weeks and I'm happy! Simple soda with simple syrup so far, but I'll try more later. If you have different pines around I'm sure other varieties would be good too.
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Aug 31, 2020 20:14
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Anonymous Robot posted:Also, as punishment for my hubris: I put Nikka From the Barrel in a sidecar last night and it was actually gross. The lemon juice highlighted an unpleasant acrid note that the Nikka has and the drink and the spirit were just worse for off for the combination. This is making me so sad. On another note: I just picked up a bottle of Bonal. What should I make with it?
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Sep 1, 2020 03:11
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Fee brothers bitters are glycerol based and non-alcoholic. Glycerol is comparable to alcohol in terms of extractive power but it's sweet and tends to pull different flavors out of things. Notably, it's much better at extracting the flavor of fruits than alcohol is - which is why Fee brothers fruit bitters taste more like fresh fruit than other companies. Unfortunately the side effect of the synthetic taste of the glycerol kind of ruins the flavor of their bitters to begin with.
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Sep 1, 2020 03:20
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Scythe posted:This is making me so sad. Spritzes! Mix it with dry sparkling wine and/or seltzer, plus whatever garnishes you like (fruit segments, citrus peels, olives, herbs). When I'm out somewhere nice I always really like a Bonal on the rocks with an orange twist either before or after a decadent meal. Do that, too.
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Sep 1, 2020 06:25
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BrianBoitano posted:I'm quite impressed with redwood bitters, which right now are just young needles in 100 proof vodka (best I could find on a short trip). It was very underwhelming at 1 week but it's at 2 weeks and I'm happy! Simple soda with simple syrup so far, but I'll try more later. If you have different pines around I'm sure other varieties would be good too. Interesting. I do have pines. I'll try a small bottle and see.
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Sep 2, 2020 02:51
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Lesson I’ve learned this week: you can skate by without citrus, or without vermouth, but if you don’t have at least one of those, you’re either mixing an old fashioned or going to the store.
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Sep 4, 2020 21:38
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Anonymous Robot posted:Lesson I’ve learned this week: you can skate by without citrus, or without vermouth, but if you don’t have at least one of those, you’re either mixing an old fashioned or going to the store. Clearly you don't know the glory of an alexander! Jokes aside you're right, they both really are the foundations of cocktails. I guess highballs, but I'd bet of the top 3+ ingredient cocktails, most have one or the other.
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Sep 5, 2020 04:05
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Though a cuba libre always beats a rum & coke  Looking through my list, the only ones that you can make without citrus or vermouth which are favorites of mine: Sazerac w/o lemon twist Toronto Campari Manhattan G&T with Hendricks & cucumber B&B on the rocks
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Sep 5, 2020 04:49
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I'm sorta having the opposite problem right now, I've a bunch dry vermouth but none of my cocktail books have that indexed to ingredients like that. Any one have any good vermouth recipes?
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Sep 5, 2020 04:58
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Carillon posted:I'm sorta having the opposite problem right now, I've a bunch dry vermouth but none of my cocktail books have that indexed to ingredients like that. Any one have any good vermouth recipes? Have a martini and think it over.
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Sep 5, 2020 16:03
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Carillon posted:I'm sorta having the opposite problem right now, I've a bunch dry vermouth but none of my cocktail books have that indexed to ingredients like that. Any one have any good vermouth recipes? Make an Old Pal! Equal parts rye, Campari and dry vermouth, lemon twist.
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Sep 5, 2020 17:04
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All your red vermouth wants to be in negronis. All your white vermouth wants to be in a contessa, which is equal parts gin, white vermouth, and aperol.
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Sep 5, 2020 18:16
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Scofflaw is a good dry vermouth cocktail
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Sep 5, 2020 18:45
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Man, what good does grenadine do except make the bottom 10% of the drink red
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Sep 5, 2020 21:18
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I have heard that high-quality/homemade grenadine is on an entirely different level than the bottled stuff, but I've never bothered to make it.
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Sep 5, 2020 21:47
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It's like the difference between Kool Aid and actual juice, yes. And it's stupid easy to make.
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Sep 5, 2020 22:08
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BrianBoitano posted:Campari Manhattan Boulavadier minus the vermouth? Ratios? Please and thankyou E: anyone have recommendations on tiki ebooks? I need a recipe book but I'd love for it to contain a rundown on history etc too field balm fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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Sep 6, 2020 00:27
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field balm posted:Boulavadier minus the vermouth? Ratios? Please and thankyou It was my attempt to fake a Manhattan when I had moved so I was temp. out of sweet vermouth: 2 oz Rittenhouse Rye 0.75 oz Campari 0.5 oz simple Ango I liked it, but then again it has Campari in it so I repeat myself
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Sep 6, 2020 00:36
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That earl grey sour I was gushing about earlier makes a lovely fizz. I think the richness of the sour is the ultimate winner, but the thick, silky earl grey flavored foam of the fizz is a lovely experience in its own right. My partner said it looked like “the classic beer of homer.”
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Sep 10, 2020 04:31
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The fizz is the most underrated of drink formats. That looks lovely.
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Sep 10, 2020 05:02
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What's a decent, cheapish brandy to pick up for cocktails? $20-30 budget, I know nothing of brandy
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Sep 10, 2020 14:11
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Toebone posted:What's a decent, cheapish brandy to pick up for cocktails? $20-30 budget, I know nothing of brandy If you're down with apple brandy you should be able to find some Laird's 100 proof in that range, don't buy the Applejack it's mostly GNS. Lustau makes some cheaper brandies that I don't mind in cocktails. My personal favorite for cocktails is Pierre Ferrand 1840, but it runs about $40-50. The 1840 is a decent sipper as well.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:32
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If you can find it, Gilles Brisson VS is really good for its price @~$30/btl for a Premier Cru VS. It's a little Oakier than most but that tends to work well for cocktails.
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Sep 10, 2020 14:52
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Chatelle VSOP is surprisingly good for the price. It's approachable, mixes easily, and is smoother than a lot of the cheaper cognacs. The worst I can say about it is that it's not very complex. If you want to try something a little different for sipping, you could always try a Spanish brandy like Torres. Full of character and very affordable.
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Sep 10, 2020 16:11
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Hennessy VS is a common brandy at that price point and will normally do you well if you don't have anything more interesting at the store. Even Courvoisier VSOP can be had for around $30 depending on where you are, and that's likewise an easy one to expect to see on a random liquor store shelf anywhere in America.
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Sep 10, 2020 19:23
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Toebone posted:What's a decent, cheapish brandy to pick up for cocktails? $20-30 budget, I know nothing of brandy My go to is Maison Rouge. It's solid in brandy and soda, which I would say is it's main use, but have been happy with it whenever I've had call to use cognac.
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Sep 10, 2020 20:40
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Carolina Distillery makes a Carriage House apple brandy that is delicious, runs about $25- 30 here. They make strawberry too but I haven't tried it, about $20. Not sure if it's sold out of state.
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Sep 10, 2020 22:11
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Who drinks Seagram's 7? I mean generally speaking, I'm assuming there are bartenders here so I'm wondering if it's used as a well whiskey or in cocktails besides 7&7; or specifically if you want to out yourself. 30+ years ago 7&7 were popular but I haven't seen anyone order one in almost that long. No one talks about it, never seen anyone buy it, but it's positioned near the front counter in our local liquor store. Weeks ago I bought a pint for shits & giggles, decided to mix it 1:1 with Fever Tree ginger beer over ice and I'd rather have this than a Russian Mule. I know they are popular and have a cool name but deep down I'm not the biggest fan of vodka. By itself S7 is bland but inoffensive, no depth but no bad flavors. Seems like an excellent substitute for vodka.
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Sep 11, 2020 05:27
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That's why I keep Canadian Club around.
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Sep 11, 2020 06:13
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wormil posted:Who drinks Seagram's 7? I mean generally speaking, I'm assuming there are bartenders here so I'm wondering if it's used as a well whiskey or in cocktails besides 7&7; or specifically if you want to out yourself. 30+ years ago 7&7 were popular but I haven't seen anyone order one in almost that long. No one talks about it, never seen anyone buy it, but it's positioned near the front counter in our local liquor store. Weeks ago I bought a pint for shits & giggles, decided to mix it 1:1 with Fever Tree ginger beer over ice and I'd rather have this than a Russian Mule. I know they are popular and have a cool name but deep down I'm not the biggest fan of vodka. By itself S7 is bland but inoffensive, no depth but no bad flavors. Seems like an excellent substitute for vodka. Some people think that Seagram's 7 is a bad whiskey. They are mistaken. It is a bad combination of 3/4 neutral grain spirits and 1/4 whiskey.
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Sep 11, 2020 07:07
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prayer group posted:Make an Old Pal! Equal parts rye, Campari and dry vermouth, lemon twist. Mr. Wiggles posted:All your red vermouth wants to be in negronis. All your white vermouth wants to be in a contessa, which is equal parts gin, white vermouth, and aperol. Thank you both btw. Over the long weekend I had a bunch of fun making drinks and both the old pal and the contessa were amazing.
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Sep 11, 2020 17:47
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Carillon posted:My go to is Maison Rouge. It's solid in brandy and soda, which I would say is it's main use, but have been happy with it whenever I've had call to use cognac. Also this, maison rouge has positioned itself well as a good cocktail cognac at a good price.
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Sep 11, 2020 18:29
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eSports Chaebol posted:Some people think that Seagram's 7 is a bad whiskey. They are mistaken. It is a bad combination of 3/4 neutral grain spirits and 1/4 whiskey. So what is keeping the brand alive? Who is drinking it? Someone will say old people but I'm probably old people to most of you and I don't know anyone that drinks S7. None of my older relatives drink S7, they tend to drink Canadian whiskey, white rum, or gin. So there is a market for it. Same with Kessler, I've never seen anyone drink it, buy it, or had it myself but Beam claims it's the 2nd best seller. Kessler is $18/bottle, for a few more bucks you can get legit good whiskey.
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Sep 11, 2020 19:34
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wormil posted:So what is keeping the brand alive? Who is drinking it? According to this, it's selling at ~2 million cases per year and that puts it in the top 30 spirit brands. I'm not certain where you used to go before the pandemic, but there were definitely dive bars near me that would do a solid trade in it. I'm not sure on the demographics, I know that market research can cost money to find, but I'd figure dive bars and places where it's mainly shot and a beer.
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Sep 11, 2020 19:52
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wormil posted:So what is keeping the brand alive? Who is drinking it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Is3P0YlDHs
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Sep 11, 2020 20:09
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wormil posted:So what is keeping the brand alive? Who is drinking it? Stuff like that is still very much the go-to well whiskey of choice for dive bars all over the world
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Carillon posted:According to this, it's selling at ~2 million cases per year and that puts it in the top 30 spirit brands. I'm not certain where you used to go before the pandemic, but there were definitely dive bars near me that would do a solid trade in it. I'm not sure on the demographics, I know that market research can cost money to find, but I'd figure dive bars and places where it's mainly shot and a beer. Guess I'm not going to dive-y enough bars, ha. Found with other (not liquor) brands that they survive by going deep into niche industries and so the general public never hears about the brand but they are successful nonetheless. Makes sense it's true for liquor too.
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