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Given that these are completely different kinds of coolers than in the past, they might be better. Or even worse! So...yes, probably good to wait. lol
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movax posted:Hah — yes the game supporting it would also be good. Considering the recent news that Intel really screwed up with being late to market with PCIe 4.0 products, I feel like NVidia is going to dedicate a lot of time, money, and effort to making DirectStorage work well on Ryzen.
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Where do I preorder?
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Mikojan posted:Wait aren’t these FE coolers usually trash? That was the old conventional wisdom, because they were blowers, because nvidia was still pushing SLI setups. The one place where normal open-air multi-fan coolers don't work well is when cards are jammed up against each other, so they had to ship coolers that weren't good for most people to avoid "nvidia's premium cards don't work in nvidia's top of the line setup" media attention. The FE coolers have been fine for 20xx and up.
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MarcusSA posted:I mean on one hand probably. Yeah, more or less this. You're rolling the dice on getting a card that might be a bit hotter or louder than some other version of the card, but if the option is "accept a potentially less than ideal card model" vs "wait an extra 4 months for proper reviews and stock to come back," then a lot of people are gonna be willing to accept that their card might run at 78C instead of 75C under load.
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As long as I can get one by November. Gonna be real hard to not try and slam that pre-order button when they go up, but I can wait on the AIBs anyway. Right?...
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Gabriel S. posted:Where do I preorder? Nowhere. Yet.
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So if I was looking to build/buy a new computer already -- and to be clear, I was -- I just wait for the 3080 to come out now, right? Or do I hold out for the 3070 to save a bit of money?
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Regarding the Titan name, has anyone even looked at the range of Titan cards recently? When it was just one it was fine, but now there is - GTX Titan, released in 2013 GTX Titan Black, released in February 2014 GTX Titan Z, released in March 2014 GTX Titan X, released in 2015 Titan X (2016), released in 2016 Titan Xp, released in April 2017 Titan V, released in December 2017 Titan RTX, released in 2018 That is confusing as poo poo. Best drop it and roll the nomenclature into the generation numbering they have.
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Also it’s my understanding from all the leaks that Nvidia has put a considerable amount of effort into this cooling solution. They want to get away from the “it’s poo poo” past.
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Gabriel S. posted:Where do I preorder? Hell, give me your money, ill hold it in escrow Just Buy it!
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MarcusSA posted:Also it’s my understanding from all the leaks that Nvidia has put a considerable amount of effort into this cooling solution. They want to get away from the “it’s poo poo” past. I want to see AMDs response. Not holding my breath.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Considering the recent news that Intel really screwed up with being late to market with PCIe 4.0 products, I feel like NVidia is going to dedicate a lot of time, money, and effort to making DirectStorage work well on Ryzen. It would be nice — both of those companies are frozen out of consoles this generation (so, the next 5 years at least), so the PC is the only battleground left to try and compete in a similar fashion. Microsoft being on-board helps immeasurably; getting UE to also implement it would be aces. Other forward looking statement — HW audio decoding getting added to GPU in addition to HW texture decompression (latter would let them sell cards with even less VRAM), maybe through some reuse of IP blocks they already have. If it’s worth the die space. I think that brings most parity to the table, outside of all the platform specific security / trust type stuff.
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CapnAndy posted:So if I was looking to build/buy a new computer already -- and to be clear, I was -- I just wait for the 3080 to come out now, right? Or do I hold out for the 3070 to save a bit of money? I guess it depends on your budget and monitor IMO. The 3080 isn’t a huge cost increase when you look at the total cost of the build and it should in theory last you longer.
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Gabriel S. posted:I want to see AMDs response. Not holding my breath. Any ETA?
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Considering the recent news that Intel really screwed up with being late to market with PCIe 4.0 products, I feel like NVidia is going to dedicate a lot of time, money, and effort to making DirectStorage work well on Ryzen. Let's be honest, by the time it's relevant Intel will have had plenty of time to get their poo poo together. It's not going to get quick, widespread adoption because it's not a sexy technology - although I wish it were, load time has always been one of the biggest factors to me in deciding if a game is worth playing or not.
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MarcusSA posted:Also it’s my understanding from all the leaks that Nvidia has put a considerable amount of effort into this cooling solution. They want to get away from the “it’s poo poo” past. This is why I think people poo-pooing the FE solution are really wrong. The 10 series cooler, they wanted a blower card and made a really good blower card. Turing, they made a good 2 slot on the idea that it fit the most use cases possible, you can call that a bad decision but it wasn't a bad cooler. Now they're actually trying really hard to make exactly the cooler most people want. I don't see the problem.
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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directstorage-is-coming-to-pc/quote:With a supported NVMe drive and properly configured gaming machine, DirectStorage will be able to detect up front that these extra steps are not required and skip all the necessary checks/operations making every IO request cheaper to fulfill. It looks like that for directstorage to work your SSD needs to support the standard. I wonder if it is just speed or special instruction support?
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I did get to order something today because my PSU is only 550W 
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CapnAndy posted:So if I was looking to build/buy a new computer already -- and to be clear, I was -- I just wait for the 3080 to come out now, right? Or do I hold out for the 3070 to save a bit of money? Both look like good cards for their prices so it'll depend on your monitor. I'd probably wait for some hard numbers before making a decision. 320 watts seems really high to me for a 3080. And the "hold out" is probably only a couple weeks anyway so I don't think it's a big deal.
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So a 3080 is probably fine for at least 60FPS 1440p gaming right? I was really keen on getting this monitor since I have a $100 coupon. https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monitor-s3220dgf/apd/210-atyt/monitors-monitor-accessories
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Shogunner posted:So a 3080 is probably fine for at least 60FPS 1440p gaming right? I was really keen on getting this monitor since I have a $100 coupon. https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monitor-s3220dgf/apd/210-atyt/monitors-monitor-accessories I uh, yes lol You should probably just get a 3070.
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Shogunner posted:So a 3080 is probably fine for at least 60FPS 1440p gaming right? I was really keen on getting this monitor since I have a $100 coupon. https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monitor-s3220dgf/apd/210-atyt/monitors-monitor-accessories 1000%. I have a 1080ti and I can 60fps almost everything on max settings.
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DF look at the 3080 https://youtu.be/cWD01yUQdVA
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Wankie posted:It looks like that for directstorage to work your SSD needs to support the standard. I wonder if it is just speed or special instruction support? CPU: Hmm, can't do gently caress all with it. Hey rear end in a top hat RTX, go pick up your poo poo. GPU: Does DMA.
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Taima posted:I uh, yes lol look i was a retired gamer for like 5 years then boom covid, idk all these numbers anymore!! edit: i need the 3080 for my reverb g2, probably. i was gonna get a 3090 because gently caress it what am i spending money on, but drat, the sheer size of it
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Taima posted:This is why I think people poo-pooing the FE solution are really wrong. Consider that most miners never mined on the reference cards because the cooling wasn’t durable enough to withstand constant load for hours. Also the AIBs apparently outperformed the reference designs.
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Wankie posted:https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directstorage-is-coming-to-pc/ Might be a NVMe 1.2 / 1.3 thing but I’m not super up to speed on what version of the spec has what. I do know zoned namespaces are on the docket but I think that’s more of a virtualization / enterprise type feature?
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Shogunner posted:So a 3080 is probably fine for at least 60FPS 1440p gaming right? I was really keen on getting this monitor since I have a $100 coupon. https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monitor-s3220dgf/apd/210-atyt/monitors-monitor-accessories You can get better performing monitors for about the same money as you're planning on spending. Go to the monitor thread. A 3080 should be somewhere between good and massive overkill for 1440p high refresh. A 3070 is likely a more sane buy, although the 3080 may turn out to be a pretty good long-term value buy. Who knows. Wait for reviews if you don't have to rush.
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Shogunner posted:So a 3080 is probably fine for at least 60FPS 1440p gaming right? I was really keen on getting this monitor since I have a $100 coupon. https://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/dell-32-curved-gaming-monitor-s3220dgf/apd/210-atyt/monitors-monitor-accessories Just note that's a VA panel, which has some downsides. I recommend you bump over to the Monitor Megathread for more info on what you should get there.
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I do worry they've boxed themselves into a corner with the rumored 3070Ti. There's only $200 difference between the G6 3070 and G6X 3080.
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Hmm the 3080 is 720 eurobux here in Belgium. Kind of hilarious that an extreme performance device with a hard to manufacture gently caress-off huge die and idiotic thermals is available for less than a loving iPhone.
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Kraftwerk posted:Consider that most miners never mined on the reference cards because the cooling wasn’t durable enough to withstand constant load for hours. Also the AIBs apparently outperformed the reference designs. Outperformed on what? They had entirely different solutions that Nvidia didn't try to do because it's not what they wanted to do. The FE has historically been all about making things work for the most people possible (hence blower / 2 fan) but they are very purposefully abandoning that now and trying to make a design that would compete with AIB. Look I'm not trying to carry water for Nvidia here, but you're comparing apples to oranges. Would also argue that you're overstating the case on mining because that's not "constant load for hours" that's "constant load 24/7" and actual gamers had nowhere near these issues. Like I'm not saying their cooling is going to for sure be awesome but I also don't see why they should get poo poo on for not having AIB performance in the past when it's just literally not what they were trying to do. You can hate on them for that decision but it just wasn't the same thing. Combat Pretzel posted:Hmm the 3080 is 720 eurobux here in Belgium. They are clearly getting a slamming deal from the Samsung fab. Which makes sense. Samsung has lower profit motivation than TSMC for numerous reasons.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I do worry they've boxed themselves into a corner with the rumored 3070Ti. There's only $200 difference between the G6 3070 and G6X 3080. That's still enough space to slot in a $600 3070 Ti/Super. The lovely part is it probably won't come with more VRAM, so you'd still be stuck at 8GB.
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Gabriel S. posted:I want to see AMDs response. Not holding my breath. They've got 3 whole weeks to come up with something!
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MarcusSA posted:I guess it depends on your budget and monitor IMO. What does monitor have to do with it, though? I need new those, too.
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lol! DF already has a card. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWD01yUQdVA
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