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the_enduser posted:Yeah not sure exactly, but it does look like they're all doing the flow through design but all the AIBs are adding RGBS!!!111 It was subtle, but Jensen did say there was RGB on at least the 3080 FE. Kind of annoying, seems like not having idiotic lights that you have to fight to disable is dead in PC gaming.
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D3 rules, keep in mind that for most of the thread regulars in here their closest contact to games is Timespy.
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All AIBs seem to have taken cues from Nvidia for the air through flow and... then blocked off the short or perforated PCB with the backplate  It's like case manufacturers deliberately making the airflow poo poo all over again.
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I am suspicious of the fact that the benchmarks we're seeing so far are all in terms of speed relative to previous cards and not raw frame rates. My guess is that it's because previous RTX frame rates were often bad, so announcing "now we can do 60 FPS!" on the newest generation GPUs sounds weak. Especially in an era when 100+ FPS monitors are becoming popular.
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Sep 1, 2020 20:59
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K8.0 posted:The DF numbers may be underselling things a bit. The test system is a 10900k which is already slower than a 3950x in a lot of the newest games, and that's before you move to a PCE 4.0 GPU. It's still probably not quite double 2080 performance, but it's a pretty incredible generational leap. The 1080Ti was the last really big 2 year leap, and that was a ~80% performance jump in the most extreme situations (like 4K Doom) but the 1080Ti was also $50 more than the 980Ti. That and the relative proximity to the 3090 and the large gap from the 3070 make the 3080 look like one of those cards that people who buy it are unlikely to regret. Every review I've ever seen has the 10900k ahead of the 3950x for the vast majority of games so I'm curious where you're getting this. Pcie 3 vs 4 may be relevant but that's by no means a given. Nvidias cards have historically been pretty insensitive to pcie bandwidth over 8 lanes of pcie3.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:01
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The 2080Ti was the first GPU to accomplish theoretically saturating a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot. PCIe 3.0 x16 will handle the 3090 with some headroom to spare.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:03
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Yes, 5th gen was a complete shitshow but at least they didn't have the gall to nearly double the price at the same time. And then reverse that decision a gen later. Woof.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:03
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Is there size details yet for the 3080 FE? Trying to figure out if it’ll fit in my case.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:09
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Another stupid question: I'm getting an HP Reverb G2 whenever they come out which is why I'm targeting something heftier this replacement cycle. Is a 3070 going to be sufficient for that or do I need to go up to the 3080? I only have a 1080p monitor.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:09
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axeil posted:Another stupid question: I'm getting an HP Reverb G2 whenever they come out which is why I'm targeting something heftier this replacement cycle. Is a 3070 going to be sufficient for that or do I need to go up to the 3080? I only have a 1080p monitor. Baseline VR for that headset is probably going to be a GTX 1080. So yeah, it will be sufficient.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:11
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Kingnothing posted:Is there size details yet for the 3080 FE? Trying to figure out if it’ll fit in my case. It's 2 slots, standard height, 285mm long Pretty standard aside from the flow-through cooler
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Sep 1, 2020 21:12
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I was telling myself that my i3770k and 980 could hold out a few more years, but that digital foundry video might have sold me on building a new PC. That and FS2020 running like poo poo at any international airport.
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I think everyone knew the 20xx series were going to be a mess. If you thought the first generation bringing RTX out was going to be some sort of excellent price:performance ratio, you were being silly. There was a lot of additional cost and R&D that went into RTX with no game ecosystem for it yet.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:13
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So whats the deal with being super tight lipped on the 3090? Waiting to see what amd with swing with?
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So 2 8 pins coming separately from the power supply, that means individual split cables are a no go right? Cable management is going to be a mess with the 3080 since that's all my psu shipped with
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Leaking the prices $100 high was smart. Everyone thinks they're getting a bargain paying $500 or $700 now instead of saying "well at least the price didn't go up over last year's models".
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Inept posted:Leaking the prices $100 high was smart. Everyone thinks they're getting a bargain paying $500 or $700 now instead of saying "well at least the price didn't go up over last year's models". Let me break it down into more analytical terms for the techies out there: FPS Go Up = Good, $$ Go Down = Also Good
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Sep 1, 2020 21:21
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Shogunner posted:maybe i will get an FE That would probably work really well in my PC-011 Dynamic. I have intake fans on the bottom that would cover that thing in fresh cool air.
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Shogunner posted:maybe i will get an FE I wonder how that airflow interacts with stock CPU coolers.
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fknlo posted:That would probably work really well in my PC-011 Dynamic. I have intake fans on the bottom that would cover that thing in fresh cool air. Same, intake on the bottom, AIO radiator intake on top, exhausting out the side panel behind the motherboard away from me.
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axeil posted:Another stupid question: I'm getting an HP Reverb G2 whenever they come out which is why I'm targeting something heftier this replacement cycle. Is a 3070 going to be sufficient for that or do I need to go up to the 3080? I only have a 1080p monitor. As a current VR and GTX1070 haver, this depends. If you want to play the popular basic VR games like Beat Saber then a 3070 (or 1070, really) will be enough. If you want Flight Simulator to run smoothly, better get the 3090.
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Diablo 3 is the only game I've paid for on two systems, I think (besides Doom), because its a very good game.
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VorpalFish posted:Every review I've ever seen has the 10900k ahead of the 3950x for the vast majority of games so I'm curious where you're getting this. HWUnboxed just did a video on CPU performance for benching the 30 series. At 4k the 3950x tends to pull ahead in a lot of DX12/Vulkan titles. Not surprising, with newer APIs/newer engines having better multithreading support, having a bunch more cores can help avoid any waiting for the CPU when you're GPU bottlenecked. It's not something I previously considered very much, but it's worth thinking about. They also did a video on PCI-E bandwidth scaling and while often there is literally no difference, a lot of newer games/engines show that more bandwidth clearly helps. Ampere is a HUGE step forward in performance, it will absolutely be bottlenecked on 3.0 x16 in some games. The differences won't be massive, but a few percent more performance is worth noting, especially when it's in more demanding situations that you'll care about more as hardware ages. K8.0 fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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jisforjosh posted:Same, intake on the bottom, AIO radiator intake on top, exhausting out the side panel behind the motherboard away from me. I've got my AIO radiator intake on the back, intakes on the bottom, and then exhaust out the top
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Enos Cabell posted:D3 rules, keep in mind that for most of the thread regulars in here their closest contact to games is Timespy. This is a quality joke and I want you to know I appreciate it.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:35
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Perfect Potato posted:Cable management is going to be a mess with the 3080 since that's all my psu shipped with the big name PSU manufacturers will almost certainly sell the 12-pin modular cable separately if you want to keep things tidy
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Is a single HDMI 2.1 port going to be enough for a VR headset and high end monitor in the near future?
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mobby_6kl posted:As a current VR and GTX1070 haver, this depends. If you want to play the popular basic VR games like Beat Saber then a 3070 (or 1070, really) will be enough. If you want Flight Simulator to run smoothly, better get the 3090. Appreciate the help. Probably not doing any MS flight sim because I refuse to spend $1500 for a single game even if it is cool in VR. Sounds like the 3070 should do the job then.
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fknlo posted:I've got my AIO radiator intake on the back, intakes on the bottom, and then exhaust out the top Foolishly got a 280 radiator which sadly only mounts on the top or I'd be doing similar
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repiv posted:It's 2 slots, standard height, 285mm long Hell yeah that’s nice sizing. Somehow it’s like the same size as my 1060. Now I know for sure it’ll fit my case if I don’t case upgrade. I think I’m going FE if I can get one. It really seems like they focused hard on the cooling.
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https://www.pcgamer.com/asuss-new-rog-strix-cards-are-400w-behemoths-so-nvidia-ampere-has-room-to-breathe/ posted:Nvidia's redesigned cooler and Asus' new Strix design both show that cooling needs to be seriously on point for these graphics cards. The ROG Strix uses three 8-pin power connectors, and can pull up to 400 watts. The TUF and Dual cards stick to a dual 8-pin power draw 400W AIB? 
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Sep 1, 2020 21:41
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Makes you wonder why they didn’t keep the Titan branding for the 3090 if they’re calling the 3080 the flagship. Odd positioning.
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shrike82 posted:Makes you wonder why they didn’t keep the Titan branding for the 3090 if they’re calling the 3080 the flagship. Odd positioning. I have a feeling titan will come later.
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Sep 1, 2020 21:45
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they could call it the "jensen spatulator 3090XT do the dew edition", they'd still sell the same cards to the same suckers
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exquisite tea posted:Diablo 3 is insanely good, sorry haters. D3 on toasters is a myth. A conspiracy by big toast to sell toasters. (It really doesn't run great on low end devices)
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If it's a Titan why are they positioning it as a gaming card and not a compute card at all
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K8.0 posted:HWUnboxed just did a video on CPU performance for benching the 30 series. At 4k the 3950x tends to pull ahead in a lot of DX12/Vulkan titles. Not surprising, with newer APIs/newer engines having better multithreading support, having a bunch more cores can help avoid any waiting for the CPU when you're GPU bottlenecked. It's not something I previously considered very much, but it's worth thinking about. Thanks. I'll give those a watch when I get off work. Would definitely be a new development.
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The amount of raytraced samples taken with this RTX stuff, does it self-regulate based on frame rates (e.g. a fps limiter in game) and how long the rasterizer is taking? Card/driver going "poo poo's taking too long, sampling some more" or whatever.
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The 3090 is clearly what they would have called a Titan in the past. I don't see them bringing the Titan branding back. They didn't really leave room for it. Ti, Super, are all modifiers they use for their refresh cards. I don't see them adding Titan to the list and coming out with a "3080 Titan" instead of a "3080 Ti or 3080 Super." The thing already has 24 GB of RAM versus the 10 GB of the 3080. So yeah, I think Titan is dead.
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Might have missed it, but Nvdia updated their promos page and it looks like Watch Dogs: Grandmas + 1 year of geforce now is the promo for the RTX 3000 series cards. Sorry to anyone who was hoping for Cyberpunk. Edit: of course I missed it 4 pages ago
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