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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Russiagate accusers are operating from the view that the US is infallible while simultaneously its processes are able to be completely undermined by second world nations. It's so stupid of a contradiction that it almost doesn't bear mentioning. I'm not sure that's really the mentality. It's more that the US is the protagonist of the world and we're allowed to prop up puppet governments and interfere with elections wherever we want, but it's an unacceptable transgression if another country does the same to us. Yeltsin was polling in single digits until Bill Clinton stepped in, if anything Russia owed us one.
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Sep 1, 2020 23:28
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literally today's big 'russia interference story' was just that Russian 'hackers' had...publicly information voter roll information... It sure seems like if our Ancient Foe The Rus are interfering they're doing a weak job!
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Sep 1, 2020 23:31
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:All of this is to say nothing of the fact that for some reason, there was/is a warhawk faction of Democrats salivating for at least a proxy war against Russia- it seemed like all but a campaign promise that tensions would increase to boiling if they won. Now it's gone the other way because the Republicans are racist and the Chinese look less like us than the Russians (though that is admittedly oversimplifying things a great deal), but even with blaming China for covid and all the calls to do something, no policymaker in office is stupid enough to suggest outright war. And if we can't or won't "punish" China for the virus which has completely upended Western life while China goes back to business-as-usual, what the gently caress were we planning to go after Russia for? What was their crime? Not being broken enough by the neoliberal reforms of the 90s? 
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Sep 1, 2020 23:54
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We have, like, rock solid proof that Putin was issuing cash bounties to snipers who bagged our own troops, if we aren't going to war with Russia over that were certainly not gonna give a poo poo if they destroy the entire framework of our democracy. I am so poisoned I don't even know if I'm joking anymore lmao.
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Sep 2, 2020 00:11
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Proust Malone posted:According to the Republican Senate it was a...collusion... of information release with the puropose of controlling media narratives. Russia hacked the DNC, or rather some dumbass at the dnc stepped on a rake and gave up their passwords. Then between Roger Stone, Manafort, and Wikileaks, they released info to feed the trump campaign narrative, or even respond to other poo poo. Like releasing podesta info to chaff up the news following the "grab them by the pussy" leak. It was....shall we say...an info war. So... They released John Podesta's boring emails about his lunch order and hillary bitching about Bernie because some dumbass at the DNC clicked a phishing email. Do you honestly think that moved a single vote either way? Also it's weird to say "multiple convictions" when the only person indicted for this was a democrat investigator who got dinged for lying to a FISA court
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Sep 2, 2020 01:22
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Bust Rodd posted:We have, like, rock solid proof that Putin was issuing cash bounties to snipers who bagged our own troops, ??
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Sep 2, 2020 01:23
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the western media poo poo it's pants like a month ago finding out that russia hires mercenaries and used the most extreme and sensational language possible while eliding the fact that war happens when you're involved in a war
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Sep 2, 2020 01:29
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We also murked like 200 Russian mercs at once and nothing happened.
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Sep 2, 2020 01:40
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Wasn't the bounty stuff very quietly walked back like a week later anyway
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Sep 2, 2020 01:47
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Those same fighters were originally paid by the US to attack Russians, then the US stopped paying them
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Sep 2, 2020 01:54
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Groovelord Neato posted:We also murked like 200 Russian mercs at once and nothing happened. what was the story behind this one
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Sep 2, 2020 01:55
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multijoe posted:Okay, but has he stopped divorcing his wife? What? No. 
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Sep 2, 2020 02:02
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get fuuuuucked https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1300962808801132547
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Sep 2, 2020 02:08
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Yestermoment posted:What? No. it's a meme from like early 2017 when matt moved out to nyc but his wife never really appears on stream Rhesus Pieces posted:what was the story behind this one dunno the specific attack, but i think it was a group of merc in conjunction with the SAA going into an area of southeastern syria near iraq that the US had said that week was a no-go zone
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Sep 2, 2020 02:09
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https://twitter.com/KJBD11/status/1300963103585316865?s=20 lmao EAT poo poo BITCH
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Sep 2, 2020 02:10
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Rhesus Pieces posted:what was the story behind this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
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Sep 2, 2020 02:16
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/KJBD11/status/1300963103585316865?s=20 lmao i had already troll-replied that post
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Sep 2, 2020 02:18
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i say swears online posted:get fuuuuucked
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Sep 2, 2020 02:23
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FlamingLiberal posted:Back to Innsmouth he goes oh we ain't heard the end of that drooling freak just yet. maybe he will primary Warren, that would be funny.
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Sep 2, 2020 02:25
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uber_stoat posted:oh we ain't heard the end of that drooling freak just yet. maybe he will primary Warren, that would be funny. Feels more likely that she’d either get a role in a Biden/Harris administration or just retire before the next cycle.
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Sep 2, 2020 02:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:Back to Innsmouth he goes More like Outsmouth
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Sep 2, 2020 02:37
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yeah i don't think she's running again
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Sep 2, 2020 02:37
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i say swears online posted:yeah i don't think she's running again
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Sep 2, 2020 02:42
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Henchman of Santa posted:Feels more likely that she’d either get a role in a Biden/Harris administration or just retire before the next cycle. She is getting nothing.
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Sep 2, 2020 03:27
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Crane Fist posted:So... They released John Podesta's boring emails about his lunch order and hillary bitching about Bernie because some dumbass at the DNC clicked a phishing email. Do you honestly think that moved a single vote either way? It fed the conservative narrative for weeks so instead of talking about the pussy grabbing for instance they could talk about the emails / her emails. There’s no one thing that makes a voter in the same way that there’s no one flo from progressive ad that makes a customer choose that brand, but the repetition over and over sets the brand. That’s what I was playing at when i said an “infowar.”
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Sep 2, 2020 03:28
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The russiagate stuff makes more sense when you realize that the US sees itself as the new Rome and Russia is little more than a stand in for Carthage. They're gonna start chanting Russia Delenda Est on the senate floor in a few years unless this trajectory changes.
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Sep 2, 2020 04:23
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Yikes. Just yikes. Having a normal one once again.
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Sep 2, 2020 04:55
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FlamingLiberal posted:Back to Innsmouth he goes More like Wettsmouth
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Sep 2, 2020 04:59
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Kennedy's replacement is an ex-Republican. Great job there Joe.
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Sep 2, 2020 05:01
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Cringe. Cringe and fail.
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Sep 2, 2020 05:42
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Phone posted:the western media poo poo it's pants like a month ago finding out that russia hires mercenaries and used the most extreme and sensational language possible while eliding the fact that war happens when you're involved in a war What was the "rock solid" proof of this, must have missed that
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Sep 2, 2020 05:45
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I was going to joke about the Atlantic council filtering it through bellingcat, but nah it was just the CIA. There’s even a Wikipedia entry! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program
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Sep 2, 2020 07:33
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Sep 2, 2020 09:09
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lmao our president just put out a decent troll post https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1301092327017140224
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Sep 2, 2020 10:42
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i say swears online posted:lmao our president just put out a decent troll post can you really say he's wrong here
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Sep 2, 2020 11:14
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Shipon posted:can you really say he's wrong here The full context was that she was comparing the way that news media talks about white men who commit acts of terrorism compared to the way they talk about terrorism committed by Muslims, people are trying to slam her for talking about islamophobia as if she was actually being islamophobic herself. But if you have the attention span of a goldfish it's easier to just retweet an edited clip without watching it and just go off what the person who posted it says it's about.
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Sep 2, 2020 11:37
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Sleeveless posted:The full context was that she was comparing the way that news media talks about white men who commit acts of terrorism compared to the way they talk about terrorism committed by Muslims, people are trying to slam her for talking about islamophobia as if she was actually being islamophobic herself. But if you have the attention span of a goldfish it's easier to just retweet an edited clip without watching it and just go off what the person who posted it says it's about. This coming from the woman who claimed hackers edited her blog posts to say homophobic poo poo? Yeah I ain't giving her any benefit of the doubt on this one knowing her record
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Sep 2, 2020 11:47
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Sleeveless posted:The full context was that she was comparing the way that news media talks about white men who commit acts of terrorism compared to the way they talk about terrorism committed by Muslims, people are trying to slam her for talking about islamophobia as if she was actually being islamophobic herself. But if you have the attention span of a goldfish it's easier to just retweet an edited clip without watching it and just go off what the person who posted it says it's about. lmao
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Joy Reid was an ally at one point, but she essentially walled herself into an elevator shaft like an auto-erotic Cask of Amontillado where she can huff her own farts until she ascends.
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