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 I read nearly everything by Mercedes Lackey over a 3 year span, then got rid of most of my books. Didn't read the Vanyel series (at least I don't recall), but pretty much every other Valdemar book, plus some of her urban fantasy. They're all decent books, but definitely get repetitive. And I never understood her obsession with parenting. Main characters can have 3 kinds of parents: 1) abusive, 2) dead, 3) adoptive. (minor characters get good families, just to contrast with the protagonist.) That, plus there's a lecture about Bad Parenting in nearly every book. Maybe she knew MZB... I eventually dumped most of her books, because I realized I was never going to read any of them again. Except for a couple of her 500 Kingdons series, cause I like fractured fairytales. And this book, cause the cover art is awesome: 
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I remember reading Mercedes Lackey's Gryphon series. It wasn't that bad, I think?, but I do remember a kinda WTF with the gryphons not being able to reproduce unless they went to this one wizard, because said wizard had seen how poo poo humans were with unplanned pregnancies, and so made all the gryphons sterile unless they jumped through a ton of hoops for said wizard to decide they'd be good parents.
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Bismuth posted:Yeah Orcs are sexy now, glad writers are catching up Ever play Shadowrun: Hong Kong?
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That's the one with a goon orc who lives in the trash?
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Colonel Cancer posted:That's the one with a goon orc who lives in the trash? Stop doxxing me 
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InediblePenguin posted:i just keep looking at her stupid hair wtf is this Her hair is legendarily stupid I think those comics are in the same vein as trashy sci/fantasy but cant get away with as much because they're a visual medium. Humans are stupid gorillas that will overlook the most horrifying gratuitous poo poo in print but as soon as someone draws a titty or boner start shrieking
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Colonel Cancer posted:That's the one with a goon orc who lives in the trash? Manic orc dreamgirl rat shaman
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Cobalt-60 posted:I eventually dumped most of her books, because I realized I was never going to read any of them again. Except for a couple of her 500 Kingdons series, cause I like fractured fairytales. And this book, cause the cover art is awesome: I almost got interested because it just looks like Shadowrun, but gosh this does not sound good quote:Book one of a new urban fantasy series centered on hot cars, fast elves, and rock-n-roll. Good elves are intrigued by stock car racing, and bad elves run kiddie-porn and drug rings. Trapped in between are three runaways who are in serious trouble and about to get into more--unwitting pawns in a deadly game between good and evil.
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Cobalt-60 posted:
Lol this thread is past life regression. I read this book. Just remembering reading about THE EDGE and hot rodding elves thinking that was the coolest poo poo
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Hakkesshu posted:I almost got interested because it just looks like Shadowrun, but gosh this does not sound good larry elmore drew a poo poo ton of fantasy and gaming art back in the day
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Elfquest: I kept hearing good things about it, but I couldn't bring myself to read it because of the art style: 
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I don't think hobbits can have beards, this art of Frodo&fam is all wrong
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If Dragonlance was so bad why do I have the entire collection in boxes in my car hole?
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Idk kindling material? Lavatory paper for when the world ends?
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Majere posted:If Dragonlance was so bad why do I have the entire collection in boxes in my car hole? Depends on which brother your username references. 
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Empty Sandwich posted:Elfquest: the art owes a fair amount both to anime and Bakshi, but it’s good as hell imo, with ancient aliens and rad esper magic can’t speak to the latest arc or so, but iirc pretty much the whole series is online one way or another (legally, even, if the official site still has the archive up!)
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this entire thread is a wild flashback for me because i realized i read so many lovely fantasy books as a kid, although there was non-lovely ones too. the library opened up so many doors for me when i wandered out of the kids section and into the science fiction/fantasy zone, although i definitely read a lot of poo poo i probably shouldn't have been reading at this age. i distinctly remember several dragonlance books but it never really clicked with me because i kept picking random ones out of the library in no order, so they would mention or refer to past characters as if i were supposed to know about them but i had no idea what was going on. the first one i picked up was the one with the girl who claimed to be raistlin's daughter and i did kind of like her part of the story, even if i still don't know if she actually was his daughter or not. i remember that he said he wasn't and she was just the baby of a pair of normal humans that washed up on the isle of sexy ogres and she just grew up sexy just by living with them (although they considered her horribly ugly). i did like her because she seemed like a interesting character and i would have liked to have read more of her when i was younger but i could not figure out where to move on because it seemed like the universe was ending! except the really loving annoying character saved everyone somehow (even though it killed him). the other two books i read were the one where raistlin's twin brother gets fat and ends up traveling through time to get buff again, because he had to prevent raistlin from doing something that killed everyone because at another point he went into the future and came across the gravestone dedicated to his wife and in front of it was a skeleton with a chisel and something else that was his so we knew whose skeleton it was. also we knew raistlin was involved because there was a hourglass constellation in the sky now. the last book i remember was the one about the half-elf guy which i picked up because hey, i had a crush on legolas and i was all about elf dudes. except it was about his mom who was kidnapped by human bandits after she got married to some elf lord, and she and the leader fell in love. but he treated her like poo poo in the beginning, i remember reading about her having to suck the marrow out of rabbit bones when they were done eating because she was starving and there was this creepy guy in the bandit group who wanted to rape her. i have no idea if he tried because i just skipped to the end where the elf lord finally reaches his elf wife but then realized she hosed the human dude and he flipped his poo poo and called her a whore or something along those lines. anyways both of the dudes ended up dead, the elf lady was pregnant, she gave birth to a half-elf boy and then died because she couldn't get over the human dude i guess and everyone else kept assuming he raped her. it was a weirdly uncomfortably book. pern is another guilty pleasure of mine, but the weirdness of it has been discussed in this thread. although i never realized that dragons poo poo out of their tails, what the gently caress.  i was either a dumb kid who missed it completely or my mind has excised that little tidbit. my little 12 year old mind was blown when they revealed that they were a forgotten space colony, and i still remember that scene from the second book where that brown dragon and his rider tried to spacetravel to the alien fungi planet and they nearly died. my enjoyment of the series died down a lot when they started making dragon spacesuits and several of them became low-orbiting astronauts, since i was bigger on fantasy settings over science fiction. i did enjoy the origin story, since it kind of reminded me of civilization/harvest moon games and i'm still a sucker for those types of games now. but there was stuff that stuck out weirdly to me, like how there was this scene where this green rider was kicking up a fuss because he wanted a custom knife someone in the crafting guild was making for someone else and his boyfriend (some non-green rider) was threatening the crafter and i just remember how shrill and demanding the rider was, like a weird homosexual stereotype.i've read mccafferey's other works. someone mentioned acorna, which is a sci-fi story i really enjoyed and then grew less and less enamored with every sequel, because she's introduced as the member of a race of space unicorn people that are being hunted down, as the book begins with her parents about to be blown up but they send their infant daughter in a small space shuttle to survive and accept their deaths. she's found and raised by a group of rough miner men on a distant asteroid, who have hearts of gold and raise her as best as they could and love her like she's their own daughter. then they find out she's not as unique or the sole survivor of her race, others have survived, and she meets up with them. also, it turns out they actually are descended from unicorns, who were from earth but rescued by aliens and decided to go to space (and who are still alive despite it being centuries since they left). anyways somehow acorna figures out a way to defeat the evil alien bug race that's genociding her people, falls in love with a unicorn boy with a tragic past, and also reclaim their home planet that the evil alien bug race took over. time travel was involved and most of the original characters introduced in the first book barely show up or are just basically cameos. the series also doesn't end there, as there's a sequel about her children, one whom she doesn't even realizes exist because the one of the aliens (they're either long lived or immortal, I don't remember) that rescued the unicorns somehow yoinked one of her fertilized eggs when she and her love interested hosed, and while she got pregnant and gave birth to one daughter, the other daughter was a test tube baby raised separately by the aliens for reasons i don't remember. then they had to go rescue mom and dad because acorna and her unicorn husband disappeared. and that's when we discovered that the race of unicorn people were created because one of the aliens fell in love with a unicorn and decided to live the rest of his life as one (they could shape shift) so he traveled back in time centuries ago and all unicorn people are descendants of him and that one unicorn. also, remember how i said acorna's parents were blown up? thanks to time travel, acorna went back in time to save them and brought them to the future. all of this is half-remembered poo poo from at least 15 years ago though, so i could be completely wrong. there's also her series about the human race being conquered by sexy aliens and living as their slaves, both physically and sexually. the protagonist is a lady who is on the run and she meets a alien who is also on the run because even though he was from a noble house or something? i don't remember, all i know is that they hosed, then they got dumped with a bunch of other humans on a empty planet to colonize it for the aliens, except they were able to rebel and start their own little nation? and then in the end it turns out the aliens were victims of something else, like the council was being physically drained by the higher ups and despite it being some fancy important position, the guys assigned to it were basically hosed up to the point they couldn't walk on their own. it was a weird series with a lot of sex. i am pretty sure i read wizard's first rule because the bdsm dominatrixes and someone kicking a eight year old in the jaw hard enough to bite off her tongue sounds very familiar, but i think once i finished the book i was so turned off by it i completely forgot that it existed. i actually got it mixed up with the sword of shanhara series, which if i remember while boring wasn't really that bad. except there was this part in one of the later books where one of the lady villains ends up killing one of the good guys (i think he was a descendant of the protagonist of the first book?) and then she has a change of heart and ends up being tortured by some other bad guys, and then the ghost of the guy she killed appeared before her and took her hand and that's how she died. it was really weird because it felt like it was supposed to be romantic but i didn't get that vibe between the two of them so the scene just confused me. Cloacamazing! posted:Mists of Avalon has a scene where there is this giant orgy where Artus and Morrigan gently caress and it describes a young girl crying as she is raped by an old man, just in a random aside among descriptions of who else is participating in the orgy. Why did this ever come as a surprise? i know exactly what scene you're talking about in mists and i hate it. it just struck me as really loving weird but i didn't know how to process it, mostly because the druidic rituals seemed really hosed up so i couldn't really get into mists. i liked darkover series, because it was another blend of fantasy/scifi but i liked it more than pern did, since it was essentially the same, although it was a lost spaceship colony crash landing on a planet and people forgetting that they came from space over generations before they were rediscovered by space earth people but they had settled into a feudal society with psychic powers. oh and the crashed spaceship was only full of white people, and that's why there's no black or brown people on the planet. also the planet has flowers with sex pollen (although it's more like a hallucinogenic but what happens is that people usually have sex while they're tripping) and the origin short story has a unintentional orgy happening because they didn't realize it was a thing. and then the priest who just participated in the orgy wakes up and realizes he hosed a bunch of dudes and was so horrified he slit their throats or something. i've also read the black magician trilogy and i will say that i did unironically enjoy it, although the ending did feel unsatisfactory because the teacher dude died but it's ok because the girl's pregnant! she was of age when that happened, i think, but the reason why she was pregnant was because no one taught her about safe sex. it's been about 15 years since i read it in high school tbh. 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oh man, i read the poo poo out of mercedes lackey as a teenager. i read a ton of her valdemar books and the last herald-mage was my introduction to gay people when i was about 12-13. by the way, half of the animals of the series are psychic, and it turns out the white pretty horses are actually the souls of previous heralds. that's why that one dude falls in love with his horse, because she's actually a person inside. i haven't read it in nearly 20 years, but i kind of want to reread the whole series out of nostalgia because psychic animal friends and magic was my jam as a preteen girl. if i remember, the later parts of the series has a catboy and catgirl, and there's something with a native american-like tribe with the gryphons? and they have magic birds. i also have read the serrated edge series, which seems to be mostly about good elves saving children from being abused.  it was definitely not something a 12 year old girl should be reading, especially since the clearest part i can remember was the love interest walking in on the elf protagonist while he was naked, and i have now remembered that he covered his ears and not his junk and how it swung about as he turned. also he had a little metal lady holding a magic hairdryer because i guess that was her sole reason for existence. oh and the human bad guy was sent to a hell dimension where he was to be tormented by reliving his sexual abuse at the hands of his father, which is why he grew up into a pedophile or something. Empty Sandwich posted:Elfquest: i like the artstyle, although i feel the later arcs it gets a lot more smudgey and not as good. but the early artstyle is so crisp and clean that it hits the right nostalgic bone in me. i got to meet the pinis at a anime con in the 2000s - they were just tabling right there in the artist alley, not in a vendor booth or in a panel. they were offering elfquest commissions and i got rayek. 
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Cloacamazing! posted:Mists of Avalon has a scene where there is this giant orgy where Artus and Morrigan gently caress and it describes a young girl crying as she is raped by an old man, just in a random aside among descriptions of who else is participating in the orgy. Why did this ever come as a surprise? Like if there's an old man marrying a thirteen year old in a GGRM book it doesn't make everyone think he's a pedo. We just think he's being gritty. That's how I read those bits in Mists of Avalon back when I read it. Was horrified to discover the truth about her ofc. Didn't her and her husband think that you had to be gay to do magic, and they wanted to activate the kids' magic powers and believed that gays had to be made, by abusing kids? It was a while back but I think that's what one of the victims said.
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enomie posted:In fairness to everyone, stuff like this can easily just look like staying true to the realities of the historical setting (Mists of Avalon is not really fantasy I don't think? I mean everyone thinks it is but iirc no magic happens that isn't explainable through coincidence and/or psychology, drugs and cultural indoctrination). yeah the abused daughter who came forward is super anti gay marriage now for that reason
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enomie posted:Like if there's an old man marrying a thirteen year old in a GGRM book it doesn't make everyone think he's a pedo. We just think he's being gritty. yeah grrm is actually not a pedo he just goes on and on in his livejournal about how hot and sexy it is when a woman can act like she's a naive underage girl lol
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enomie posted:Like if there's an old man marrying a thirteen year old in a GGRM book it doesn't make everyone think he's a pedo. lets not get hasty
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Soapy_Bumslap posted:Some years back I was in a bookstore looking over the fantasy section, and next to a Salvatore book called like "Lots of Orcs" or something, was a series called "Queen of the Orcs". Sounds like my autobiography
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ChubbyChecker posted:lets not get hasty For all the poo poo the series turned out to be, one of the more dark funny parts of Game of Thrones was when Walder Frey was bitching about how other lords marry teenagers and that's well and fine, but he does it (multiple times) and somehow that makes HIM a pervert.
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have you ever read the pear shaped manquote:Everyone knows a Pear-Shaped Man. Jessie meets hers when she and her friend Angela move into their new apartment--he lives in the rotten-smelling basement apartment--wet lips, whiny voice, eating Cheez Doodles with warm Coke. He's always waiting for her, inviting her down to his apartment ... he has 'things' to show her. When Jessie's obsession with this repulsive man turns to paranoia, it takes over more than just her life.
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SatansOnion posted:the art owes a fair amount both to anime and Bakshi, but it’s good as hell imo, with ancient aliens and rad esper magic
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Colonel Cancer posted:Idk kindling material? Lavatory paper for when the world ends? I have bad news about 2020 (and the availability of actual lavatory paper already)
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I swear I remember seeing what must have been an excerpt from Perm, probably the first book, in one of my English textbooks. I remember there being the viewpoint guy about to bond with one of the just hatched dragons. He didn't want a green one, but got a good one. I also remember that we attempted to read some fantasy book about a noblewoman/princess who was bad at sewing and ankle adornments were in at the court. That's literally all I remember about that book.
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:have you ever read the pear shaped man Holy poo poo. This was in an old issue of some magazine my family had as a kid, I think it was an excerpt, if The Pear Shaped Man was a full book of some sort, and even that little excerpt has stuck in my head since I was a kid. It was just so...vivid, like you could smell some of the things the author was describing in great detail. It included the stabbing scene. Or at least a fair-sized chunk of it.
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dragonlance was actually pretty good, compared to the other trash at the time. at least none of the authors are pedophiles (Xanth, MZB, etc), libertarians (Goodkind) or heavy into rape-as-a-hello (goodkind, martin). and their characters were kind of dumb but at least it's better than loving drizz't d'o'u'rde'n
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when i was a nerdy teenager one of my nerdy teenage friends was a huge drizzt fan. he insisted on lending me the first drizzt book, and was very disappointed when i didn't care for it. i was reading tons of complete garbage genre fiction at the time, but drizzt still sucked.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Holy poo poo. it's a short story, and i'm quite sure that it didn't include any stabbings when you've seen what grrm looks like, it's impossible to imagine the guy in the story as anyone else than him
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You have to give it to Dragonlance- a backstory like a high priest demanded that he be made a god and the gods' answer was to drop a flaming mountain on him and obliterating everything within a hundred miles before petulantly abandoning the people of the world to hundreds of years of darkness is pretty metal.
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:have you ever read the pear shaped man I haven't read it, but I ends with disappointment in New York football teams and an obscene amount of pizza.
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Hyzenth1ay posted:dragonlance was actually pretty good, compared to the other trash at the time. mormon fundies aren't exactly good people
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I agree with your other points, butHyzenth1ay posted:and their characters were kind of dumb but at least it's better than loving drizz't d'o'u'rde'n absolutely not, my friend.
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NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:You have to give it to Dragonlance- a backstory like a high priest demanded that he be made a god and the gods' answer was to drop a flaming mountain on him and obliterating everything within a hundred miles before petulantly abandoning the people of the world to hundreds of years of darkness is pretty metal. Gods getting realmad and resetting the world is a cliche BUT I fuckin love how wild things get during Time of Troubles because Ao gets mad at gods for tryna steal his ipad or something. Gods duking it out in the cities and wilderness is pretty metal (maybe not for the average farmer who just lost his 5th son to an Ankheg infestation to make 1 gp a month). Dragonlance gods abandoned mortals twice and they be still like "Hope the giant moon is Paladine  " while living in a dragon made glacier desert.
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One of the gods pulling a switcheroo and hiding the world in her metaphorical bohemian sleeves while running off through the streets is kinda novel
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Speaking TT, I also love how pre-TT gods were basically tyrranical Olympians not giving a gently caress about their followers and bicker between each other endlessly. Ao is the dumbest god btw holy poo poo.
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Besides Xanth the next most popular bunch of books from Anthony was Incarnations of Immortality. They were about people who were given god like positions such as Death, Time, War, Nature, Fate, and Evil. The last book is basically everyone together and someone has to be GOod, so technically God. They're Urban Fantasy, as they take place in a modern world where magic is a thing, but they still have cars and tv and stuff. For Piers Anthony they're fairly restrained, nothing weird and creepy exists in most of the books until you end up with the last one that features a under aged prostitute and suddenly "Well, technically we were in hell for 10 earth years so you're of age now even though you didn't age" kicks in.
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