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christmas boots posted:Also even if you have native ancestry you shouldn't claim to be Cherokee [or anything else] unless you're actually a member of the tribe.
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Hollandia posted:There are so many things that are just a type of kale. you mean cabbage.
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dialhforhero posted:If you are European you probably already know what loving Abbey your first ancestor was born in back in like 1207. But then you probably don’t care about genealogy anyway. I would generally suggest you probably don't know, for that reason. Unless you're some kind of aristo freak who cares about that kind of thing you probably don't know poo poo about where or who you were descended from. For all I know my mam popped out of a hole in the ground somewhere in the town I live in. The obsession with ancestry is, as far as I know, a bizzare american thing. Especially the obsession with claiming you're "half german/italian/norwegian" when your parents were american and so were their parents.
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RatHat posted:https://twitter.com/CursedBoomers/status/1301928103296602112?s=20 He was always entitled trash. I recall an anecdote in one of his books from around 2011 or so where he was denied a side entrance into a sports stadium by a security guard and he wasted an entire page trashing some random guy doing his job as "an $8 an hour person."
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Actually Adam Corolla never grew as a person past The Man Show and when you look at it like that it makes a lot of sense.
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hawowanlawow posted:it's sad, he was so good on loveline Of the two Loveline hosts, at least Corolla is straight up about being a chud. https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1246534721120735234 https://twitter.com/conrad_hotdish/status/1246785459541475328
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OwlFancier posted:I would generally suggest you probably don't know, for that reason. Lots of people's families immigrated here within living memory and if not they probably had a grandparent/ great grandparent who did. It's not considered progressive to expect them to shelve those cultural practices they inherited. What's truly hosed up is how many people chanting "build the wall" are currently angry about all the Oktoberfests across the country being cancelled.
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For me finding my immigrant roots is what I believe makes my American story rich. Also I love history. That being said it is complete asinine when people say “go back to your country” and constantly move the goalpost for what makes someone “American”. However if someone shouted to me to “go back to where I came from” I think I would be quite happy living in a small town in Hessen compared to this current hellscape. The other option is Northumbria. Could a Brit tell me what’s up with that area? Too bad Brexit happened ‘cause that sounded cool, too.
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PhazonLink posted:why is scoot adams running against his god king? He’s desperate to find something to do to keep from having to spend time with his child bride
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dialhforhero posted:The other option is Northumbria. Could a Brit tell me what’s up with that area? Too bad Brexit happened ‘cause that sounded cool, too. I live in it, technically. Depends where you are, the cities are cities, the countryside is the countryside though a bit more vertical than say, the southeast or the vale of york. There's some nice coastline along the eastern coast, haven't been to the western coast (which is cumbria nowadays) but I imagine they also have coastline and it doesn't just dissolve into static until you hit Ireland. It also technically includes parts of what is now Scotland, up as far as the firth of forth so Edinburgh is technically Northumbria. There's the pennines in the middle which I haven't been to except to drive over them on the A66, but they're relatively low craggy wind blasted uplands that are common in a lot of England. England doesn't really have mountain ranges though they are technically mountains, they're not very big by US or European standards though. More like particularly rough moorland a lot of the time. The lake district is very nice, sort of like fjords, very very up and down, the whole thing is basically a network of valleys and rivers and lakes, also in my experience it rains constantly there, except when it snows.
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Scratch Monkey posted:He’s desperate to find something to do to keep from having to spend time with his child bride mmmmmm do i even want to know what grain of truth tis is based off of?
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PhazonLink posted:mmmmmm do i even want to know what grain of truth tis is based off of? She's an adult in her 20s I think
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PhazonLink posted:you mean cabbage. A whiter shade of kale.
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Diet Kale, if you will
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American heritage is more complicated than European because almost every white person is like 3rd or 4th generation on at least one side, and that heritage influenced their upbringing and culture. European ancestry is usually just like ‘German for 900 years’ or whatever.
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Here is the thing. White people invented the one-drop rule. White people invented the blood quantum used to determine tribal membership. It's an external definition. Native Americans get to make their own definitions of who belongs to their people. The Cherokee, in particular, are quite fierce about not considering Elizabeth Warren part of their nation. If you didn't grow up in contact with a Native nation, and if your closest ancestor is great-grandparent or farther back, most nations (there are exceptions) don't consider you a member. If you don't know anything but "well, I think there was a great-grandmother on my mom's side" you aren't a Native American. It is about culture as well as about ancestry. And if TakeMySalivaAndCash.com tells you you're 1% Native? Doesn't mean poo poo.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Here is the thing. White people invented the one-drop rule. White people invented the blood quantum used to determine tribal membership. It's an external definition. Like, I probably have some Native American ancestry because I imagine most people who have been in the USA for enough generations do. I'm not going to pretend there's anything strange or shameful about that concept. But I'm also not going to pretend it means anything, if that makes sense.
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Incelshok Na posted:In many ways Warren is worse. Dolezal actively took part in the African American community and sought to advance members of that community. Warren claimed native ancestry when it suited her but actively rejected advancing native concerns while she has been in government. Warren was actually doing a decent job or redirecting all the "Pocahontas" crap back to the Native communities and their needs, particularly with Native women, and then she fell for the classic blunder of thinking she could get one over on Trump and did the dumb as gently caress blood test spoiling every bit of goodwill she had built with those communities. It's mindblowing how dumb a move that was. Absolutely mindblowing.
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Len posted:She's an adult in her 20s I think instagram model who is managed by her dad and married a mentally unstable sugar daddy
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there wolf posted:Warren was actually doing a decent job or redirecting all the "Pocahontas" crap back to the Native communities and their needs, particularly with Native women, and then she fell for the classic blunder of thinking she could get one over on Trump and did the dumb as gently caress blood test spoiling every bit of goodwill she had built with those communities. It's mindblowing how dumb a move that was. Absolutely mindblowing. And she got the idea to do it from a podcast host, lmao
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The discussion around who counts as a member of a tribe can get very heated because some tribes give out per capita payments from revenue that comes from, say, leasing land to the government or profits from casinos. The Chukchansi tribe famously disenrolled hundreds of members who couldn't sufficiently prove their direct discent which increased the payouts to remaining members by hundreds of dollars
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dialhforhero posted:For me finding my immigrant roots is what I believe makes my American story rich. Also I love history. I got to travel to Poland, and see the birth records for my great-grandparents at the Chapel in their little town, those records, incidentally, had been buried for several years to help hide the genealogy of local Jews from the Nazis, then they were dug up and lovingly restored in the 50s. That was pretty cool. The other half of my family lived in the original 13 colonies, and genealogy is just useless beyond "came from the British isles, mostly, kinda"
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Kevin DuBrow posted:The discussion around who counts as a member of a tribe can get very heated because some tribes give out per capita payments from revenue that comes from, say, leasing land to the government or profits from casinos. The Chukchansi tribe famously disenrolled hundreds of members who couldn't sufficiently prove their direct discent which increased the payouts to remaining members by hundreds of dollars And, of course, there's the whole Cherokee Freedmen controversy.
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Len posted:I mean I don't wear a tie but the rest is still a thing I've done daily through all of this, you fucks need to get back to work it isn't fair.  As someone who was judged "essential" for some goddamn reason and has been working through this whole loving thing, I second this.Edgar Allen Ho posted:Broccoli is just a type of kale 
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U.T. Raptor posted:
The other half are deadly nightshade.
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Shot: https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/1301949096723386368?s=19 Chaser: https://twitter.com/historic_ly/status/1301985274608713729?s=19
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MizPiz posted:Shot: loving lol even the Dean parents thought he was CIA.
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U.T. Raptor posted:
Right? "We're logistics we count as essential" except we're not food or pharmacy grade and most of our poo poo goes into paint. Fuckers
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RatHat posted:https://twitter.com/CursedBoomers/status/1301928103296602112?s=20 That text makes me think 'Ganglion', and, from that, how they are missing theirs.
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just as an FYI, Historic.ly podcast is run by an open genocide denialist who claims the kosovo, ukranian, and uigher genocides never happened
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MizPiz posted:Shot: ...in Dean's defence, he didn't claim that his brother was.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Here is the thing. White people invented the one-drop rule. White people invented the blood quantum used to determine tribal membership. It's an external definition. I dunno about elsewhere but in the midwest "Cherokee princess" used to be an excuse for having a black ancestor, because you certainly couldn't admit to that, so it seems like most families that have been in the US 150+ years have a Cherokee princess lurking somewhere in their family tree but no black ancestors or slaves, no sir So my mind automatically parses the "8% cherokee" trope as "several generations would rather have died than admit that great great grandma had a black boyfriend, and the euphemism became accepted family canon". I have no idea how common it really is but enough that its tough to avoid confirmation bias.
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Syd Midnight posted:great great grandma had a black boyfriend
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there wolf posted:The other half are deadly nightshade. The tomacco episode of the Simpsons is somehow plausible
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Samovar posted:...in Dean's defence, he didn't claim that his brother was. Additionally Historic.ly has straight up used NazBol sources and is generally a monumental source of turdery so this is like vomit insulting a diarrheatic slurry.
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RatHat posted:https://twitter.com/CursedBoomers/status/1301928103296602112?s=20 Maybe he's going to expand on this thought: https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1293773434753753088?s=20 I mean, I sure hope so.
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The two genders: wear bracelet eat stew.
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My favorite thing is that extra space before the "than" that suggests he spent a long time trying out different things that real men do before settling on the reasonably safe "eating stew."
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theironjef posted:My favorite thing is that extra space before the "than" that suggests he spent a long time trying out different things that real men do before settling on the reasonably safe "eating stew." It originally said "loving stew" but he knew that numbers weren't on his side.
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