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beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop
Gotta say I love all of the interface improvements and streamlining compared to CK2. The characters feel much closer to the surface of the action. Adding 3D models for everyone is huge - now I actually remember people.

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a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


Achievements with named characters are bugged currently. Once you quit the game and load it up again, they disappear unless you're still playing the character. I just found out when almost getting the Mother Of Us All cheevo which took ages. gently caress.

Hope it gets fixed soon without invalidating saves.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
im glad i got this game but i definitely am the kind of person who likes eu and not ck. tribal poo poo especially is just too annoying for the way i like to play (blobbing, basically). My first ruler lasted 50 years and created three kingdoms and was amazing, and then she died and everything exploded and I'm back to square one, and it just doesnt spark joy.
BUT
its much much better than ck2 in terms of general design - there's a lot of bullshit ui stuff that needs to be fixed but it all seems easily patchable. It's really pretty, the models are cool and add quite a lot to the game (my large adult son and his dwarf nephew looked very embarrassed when i discovered their secret), the events are good, etc. I'm glad they made it and it makes me excited about eu5!

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

Captain Oblivious posted:

So has anyone repelled a Crusade yet? I just got one declared on me and I'm uncertain how to actually win. Sack Rome? Run the clock?

???

as the king of sweden I sacked rome, captured the pope, and it did... nothing

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




I finally got Alexios Komnenos to the throne (almost) in a ridiculously roundabout way. I began with murdering his brother so Alexios becomes the heir to their father, it went splendidly if by splendidly we mean that the deed was discovered and the whole empire knows that I am a murderer and kinslayer. Than, it turned out that creating claim to Constantinople was mistake, I can only create a faction to get that, not the imperial title. Than, I figured why not make father the emperor since I am the heir anyway. So now he sits on the throne seething with hatred. Also, I am excommunicated and loving Alp Aslan decided to kick our asses again, so I hope I still have some empire to rule when the time comes. Oh and meanwhile someone discovered and exposed a secret that Alexios isn't even his father's son lol

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

beefart posted:

An AI character(s) just systematically murdered all of my 4 of my sons and a 3 of my grandsons without being discovered in my Halfdan Hvitserk game. I’ve almost got the Danelaw but I’m 67 years old and heading for a game over if I can’t knock up a concubine like yesterday. I’m loving pissed and extremely impressed at the same time, this game owns.

I don't suppose your spy master have a claim on you? :v:

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

awesmoe posted:

im glad i got this game but i definitely am the kind of person who likes eu and not ck. tribal poo poo especially is just too annoying for the way i like to play (blobbing, basically). My first ruler lasted 50 years and created three kingdoms and was amazing, and then she died and everything exploded and I'm back to square one, and it just doesnt spark joy.
BUT
its much much better than ck2 in terms of general design - there's a lot of bullshit ui stuff that needs to be fixed but it all seems easily patchable. It's really pretty, the models are cool and add quite a lot to the game (my large adult son and his dwarf nephew looked very embarrassed when i discovered their secret), the events are good, etc. I'm glad they made it and it makes me excited about eu5!

Yeah I'm an EU player tbh but you can blob easily as a tribal if you make sure you only have one Kingdom so when Partition happens everyone else is stuck with Duchies under your player. Once you get to Kingdom you only deal with Dukes and Duchesses which are much larger domains so you don't have to worry about the little stuff like counties breaking your domain cap since they tend to be de jure part of your Duchies and if not then a Count is so low on the food chain you can make a ton of them and it affects nothing.

Haven't gotten to the point where I hold the titles to multiple Kingdoms yet but I'll worry about that when I get there.

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

finally reached 1453, game is real good but endgame you basically can't support armies without bankrupting yourself as a big empire.

Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib

Magil Zeal posted:

It only appears on your own character I believe, and if you have too many alliances you might have to click the Diplomacy bar to show them all. Truces seem to be at the bottom (personally I'd put truces at the top).

Thank you! Been going mad having to click each character to see if we have a truce.

MonikaTSarn
May 23, 2005

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

So being Asatru has its benefits - notably, you practice human sacrifice so not only does executing prisoners give you Piety, you lose big chunks of stress doing it. So here I am, working on gathering the thousands of piety necessary to reform the faith by raiding and chucking heathens into the meat grinder, and my king dies. Bit of a setback, but oh well. New heir has got Compassionate trait. Executions are now a 35 Stress penalty. What's more, I somehow managed to screw up succession so while I hold the title for the Scandinavian Empire, the constituent kingdoms all went to my uncle for some reason? I'm not even close to the succession either, and it's elective now so I don't even have any say. At least they're still in my dynasty, so it's not too bad.

Thats funny, my second or third king in my Scandinavia run had the same problem with compassionate. But he had such high learning that he earned piety very quickly, and I actually reformed with enough spare faith that I could afford some nice changes.

I actually like having all Kingdoms except Norway controlled by others. They keep expanding nicely into all directions.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:
I'm not sure if this is a repost, but here's how you get the Debug Mode on Gamepass

Open Xbox app (the game pass app).

Right click on the CK3 icon in the left hand bar. Select "create desktop shortcut".

On your desktop: create a shortcut to that shortcut and append -debug_mode.
Your target should look like this (USER=your win user)

C:\Users\USER\Desktop\Crusader Kings III.lnk" -debug_mode


Now you can start taking over the world with your nudist divine path cannibals.

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Boo, you could have told me that before I got everything together

the panacea
May 10, 2008

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:

Tamba posted:

Boo, you could have told me that before I got everything together


time to hand the reigns to the next generation.

Dr. Tough
Oct 22, 2007

ItohRespectArmy posted:

finally reached 1453, game is real good but endgame you basically can't support armies without bankrupting yourself as a big empire.

Well to be fair that's how it was in real life.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

Zeron posted:

It does feel kind of weird that there is no real fatigue mechanic for fighting offensive wars over and over. Your men replenish incredibly fast and infinitely and your own lands don't really suffer much either. Honestly might help to bring back regencies? Your home lands should be noticably worse off/fragile when you drag literally the entire court off to fight a war halfway across the world. Or even something like giving negative opinion modifiers to families when a character dies while fighting for you.

You do get an “offensive war” penalty similar to the “vassal levies raised too long” in CKII. In African thunder dome most wars last less than 6 months, the moment when it triggers, so so far it’s not a problem.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Which is better for keeping my vassals in line if I don't particularly trust them, directly giving them all the counties in the duchy, or giving each individual county a different count and putting them under a duke? My ruler has an unfortunate cough and I don't like my young heir's chances.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal
My liege died and his heir is an infant. I am on his council as Marshal, despite having a martial skill of 5, presumably because my Diplo skill of 29 meant my liege knew I should be on the council, but the existing Chancellor has a hook stopping him being replaced and my liege was too stupid to get a better Marshal than me instead. Anyway, my point is that my liege died and I am now being warned that raiders are in my territory every time they attack his realm, even though they're 200 miles away from me.

Not that I don't like my liege, he's the only thing stopping my neighbours swallowing me whole, but I have one county and a martial skill of 5, mate, there's nothing I can do.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Pierson posted:

Which is better for keeping my vassals in line if I don't particularly trust them, directly giving them all the counties in the duchy, or giving each individual county a different count and putting them under a duke? My ruler has an unfortunate cough and I don't like my young heir's chances.

You want to give each one a single county and make the most loyal one the duke. That way the top guy will only get a fraction of the money and levies from his vassals.

Butternubs
Feb 15, 2012
Occasionally after an event pop up fires I can't unpause the game and can't click any menus etc and I have to exit the game(which causes it to crash) and restart. The buttons are making the clicky noise but nothing happens. Is anyone else having this problem?

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
Gonna start up a game as a small time vassal for the first time. Anybody got a rec for a fun one to learn with?

Qubee
May 31, 2013




Been playing since launch and still not sure of the best way to just seize titles for myself with minimal fuss. I either incur tyranny, or have to spend a tonne of time and effort finding dirt on someone, or wipe out their entire succession line. I just wanna set myself up with a few counties and baronies so I can get lots of gold, and then be able to hand newly conquered lands to people I choose, rather than having shitheads constantly demanding to be on the council that do gently caress-all in terms of helping.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Tetramin posted:

Gonna start up a game as a small time vassal for the first time. Anybody got a rec for a fun one to learn with?

Try Aargau in 1066 and see if you can copy the success of the real life Habsburgs and gently caress your way to victory.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Zeron posted:

It does feel kind of weird that there is no real fatigue mechanic for fighting offensive wars over and over. Your men replenish incredibly fast and infinitely and your own lands don't really suffer much either. Honestly might help to bring back regencies? Your home lands should be noticably worse off/fragile when you drag literally the entire court off to fight a war halfway across the world. Or even something like giving negative opinion modifiers to families when a character dies while fighting for you.

You get an increasing negative opinion the longer you are part of offensive wars. After going ham to form Britannia, I currently have -30 which isn't so bad with my vassals because they otherwise love me but it also affects Popular Opinion which leads to lots of peasant revolts. I've certainly had a lot, a couple of which made my war with Norway a lot hairier than it needed to be.

Playing a humble, compassionate character for the first time instead of a complete psycho and it really makes the Stress system shine. My vassals like me and I get lots of piety but, I after a couple of murders, my guy got really stressed and now wanders the castle muttering about his guilt. Real 'is this a knife I see before me?' hours.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Qubee posted:

still not sure of the best way to just seize titles for myself with minimal fuss.

This is my problem in real life unfortunately

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
yeah Gengis Khan is definitely bugged out, he has a truce with Mongolia right now and was never able to expand beyond his starting province

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Qubee posted:

Been playing since launch and still not sure of the best way to just seize titles for myself with minimal fuss. I either incur tyranny, or have to spend a tonne of time and effort finding dirt on someone, or wipe out their entire succession line. I just wanna set myself up with a few counties and baronies so I can get lots of gold, and then be able to hand newly conquered lands to people I choose, rather than having shitheads constantly demanding to be on the council that do gently caress-all in terms of helping.

Easy way:

- Be Zealous
- Take the two pips in Torturer to make executions not cost piety
- Holy war someone, siege down everything to take as many prisoners as possible
- Burn those heathens at the stake

Now that you have 100 Dread, you can just revoke stuff without giving a poo poo about Tyranny, everyone will be too frightened to fight back.

But you'll soon find that having lots of lovely baronys is not actually the way to make a lot of money, you want to go big and tall with as many holdings as possible in your capital county (where your steward is permanently parked increasing development), pawn off all the other extraneous poo poo to vassals to let them build it up for you.

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age

in ~890 bohemia is it better to build holdings in my baronies without them (and which can only be castles at the moment) or to build improvements in my existing baronies

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Never played a CK before, did the tutorial then hopped in as Scotland. My Marshal is -100 opinion of me and immediately raised a faction to erode my power of the crown.

I feel like this is 100% the intended experience and I kind of love it even if I have little idea what I’m doing?

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

oddium posted:

in ~890 bohemia is it better to build holdings in my baronies without them (and which can only be castles at the moment) or to build improvements in my existing baronies

For Bohemia you probably want to eventually be building temples and cities everywhere since you (should) never have a lack of county capitols from landed relatives succeeding under seniority, once you're able to implement it. Since you can't build either of those holding types as a tribal, probably best to just max out the existing baronies.

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

So here I am, working on gathering the thousands of piety necessary to reform the faith

Just be aware that it does not appear that any reformed pagan faith is able to raid no matter what doctrine or tenets you select, so no more raiding or viking traits if you press that button. Honestly not much point to reforming aside from letting everyone adopt feudalism and faster conversion time.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Bussamove posted:

Never played a CK before, did the tutorial then hopped in as Scotland. My Marshal is -100 opinion of me and immediately raised a faction to erode my power of the crown.

I feel like this is 100% the intended experience and I kind of love it even if I have little idea what I’m doing?

Pretty much. It's not ideal to have any of your council hate you but it's not the end of the world unless they're your spymaster. Never let someone who hates you be the person whose job it is to stop assassination plots against you.

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



How does it work in CK3 if you vassalize a merchant republic? In CK2 having a ducal merchant republic vassal was a great way to make $$$, does it still work that way?

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Frida Call Me posted:

How? Don't you need the appropriate innovation before you can add that law?

You add "Male preference" or whatever, and that kingdom (et. al) will inherit along the same partition lines - but it does so separately from your other kingdoms. So you're have say 2 kingdoms, each with their 'own' partition lines of succession.

Example: Two Empire level titles, both with gender-equal High Partition laws, both going to my heir.



Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe

Jabor posted:

Easy way:

- Be Zealous
- Take the two pips in Torturer to make executions not cost piety
- Holy war someone, siege down everything to take as many prisoners as possible
- Burn those heathens at the stake

Now that you have 100 Dread, you can just revoke stuff without giving a poo poo about Tyranny, everyone will be too frightened to fight back.

If your character is also a sadist you'll basically have free stress relief as a torturer

Edit: even though it is sinful there were a lot of perks to being a sadist. I killed two rivals on hunting trips

Willfrey fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Sep 5, 2020

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

oddium posted:

in ~890 bohemia is it better to build holdings in my baronies without them (and which can only be castles at the moment) or to build improvements in my existing baronies

It's a bit of a classic resource management problem: do you want a little bit more soon, or a lot more much later. The more places you have that you can improve, the more improvement you can get out of any given section of time, but it will take a while before you have that breadth of options… and of course, it will cost a crapton to do all that consecutive building so you might not end up being able to do it anyway.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe
Man, going into stewardship trees gives you mad money. In was getting 50 gold a month and upgraded all my castles to the max. Ransoming prisoners routinely bankrupted my rivals.

Kinda annoying that my vassals aren't investing in their holdings.

Also rough that I freshly conquered the Lollard half of Scotland, die, then my paste-eating son takes the reigns it all immediately grenades as Scots and Wales war for independence :argh:

Guess my arbitrary lazy wrothful son is going to rule by dread

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Messalianism is OP

also lmao at my spellchecker suggesting "lesbianism" for that

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
When going to war for a claim, how is it determined whether your ruler takes ownership of a county title, or if it just vassalizes the current owner? Is it based on the type of claim, like a de Jure claim vassalizes while a manufactured claim conquers?

Zohar
Jul 14, 2013

Good kitty

Tetramin posted:

When going to war for a claim, how is it determined whether your ruler takes ownership of a county title, or if it just vassalizes the current owner? Is it based on the type of claim, like a de Jure claim vassalizes while a manufactured claim conquers?

I think a fabricated claim means "that land rightfully belongs to me" whereas the de jure cb is just "you are rightfully my vassal" so yeah pretty much

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
God this is consuming my life

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Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Tetramin posted:

When going to war for a claim, how is it determined whether your ruler takes ownership of a county title, or if it just vassalizes the current owner? Is it based on the type of claim, like a de Jure claim vassalizes while a manufactured claim conquers?

If they're your claims they go to you. If they're someone else's claims you're pressing, it goes to them. If they're de-jure, then the person will become the vassal of their de-jure lord. If you're a king, then you'd get the duke as a vassal, but not the counties, etc.

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