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This is a place that uses cognition filters, run by pathologically manipulative psychopaths. Is the box robot what they actually look like?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO3MttgvHUY Really though, good stuff
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Sep 5, 2020 10:52
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Rockopolis posted:This is a place that uses cognition filters, run by pathologically manipulative psychopaths. Yep
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Sep 5, 2020 11:00
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Kitfox88 posted:Yep Probably. Unless it's another cognition filter.
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Sep 5, 2020 11:33
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Plot twist, the robot body is another layer of the cognition filter. Their actual body is human, they just did that so the manager wouldn't snap upon seeing a harmless kid tossed into a crusher.
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Sep 5, 2020 11:33
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Try not to let the actual meat in front of you to get too far away though. The story is elaborate and engaging enough without having to consider another ten layers of possible conspiracy theories 
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Sep 5, 2020 11:40
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Unfiltered Sephirot
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Sep 5, 2020 14:28
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The Real Lobotomy Corporation Starts Here.
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Sep 5, 2020 15:17
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I just realized you timed this on a 5 day, too. Which means you have a self-imposed challenge also slamming you. After reading up, I can already guess at what it's going to be, and it's going to be amazing 
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Sep 5, 2020 15:24
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tithin posted:I've never played this game but it's pretty apparent who A is Same. I feel like people are hyperfocusing on the latter half (for... well, valid reasons) when I think the first bit pretty well spells out who A is and your relationship to him, especially with you seeing 'someone else's' flashback.
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Sep 5, 2020 15:25
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Materant posted:I just realized you timed this on a 5 day, too. Which means you have a self-imposed challenge also slamming you. I feel moderately confident that whatever idea you had it's probably better than the one I did. It isn't 'just do Malkuth' though, at least!
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Sep 5, 2020 15:32
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Chaosbrain posted:Well, looks like its going to get all Terminator up in this place. Oh hey, I was correct. Right down to the robot getting smashed by an industrial crusher. Imagine that. 
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Sep 5, 2020 15:50
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In mid-August, I had a theory about what was going on with the Sephirah, but I was worried about my guess being too good and coming off as wink-wink spoiler garbage. I ran it by TeeQueue and ultimately didn't post it because I didn't want to disrupt the thread.quote:Honestly, between the setting's casual relationship with extreme body horror (Rudolta, Today's Shy Look), the emphasis on cerebral themes (the cognition filter and the title literally being Lobotomy Corporation), and the non-Angela AIs having organic traits (substance abuse, sleep habits, mood disorders), I'd be willing to bet that the Sephirahs are some kind of "brain in a jar" setup. It'd explain why Angela won't shut up about how perfect she is: she's the only one who's a genuine AI, and she knows it. I'm currently torn between "THERE'S MEAT IN THAT BOX  " and "there's meat in that box  ".
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Sep 5, 2020 16:38
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RPZip posted:Same. I feel like people are hyperfocusing on the latter half (for... well, valid reasons) when I think the first bit pretty well spells out who A is and your relationship to him, especially with you seeing 'someone else's' flashback. Oh, I've never played either and I can reasonably guess. But I also wouldn't put it past the game to throw in a twist and lead us along. So uh... no need to be condescending you guys.
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Sep 5, 2020 16:49
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I think people are saying "I've never played before and I think it's obvious" because a lot of people itt have played before, and they're worried that it will be considered a spoiler if their guess turns out to be right.
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Sep 5, 2020 16:55
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Since A/ngela changed Elijah's name to "Malkuth", all of the Kabbalah references aren't just metaphors, Lobcorp has an official company policy of naming things after Kabbalah. They had a focus group decide which Hebrew letters best correspond to which abnormality classes
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Sep 5, 2020 16:59
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pumpinglemma posted:I think people are saying "I've never played before and I think it's obvious" because a lot of people itt have played before, and they're worried that it will be considered a spoiler if their guess turns out to be right. Yeah, it was this. There's definitely a chance of there being more twists coming up, but for now I think I've got a solid lock on it. The game is completely capable of changing course though, the way they've been introducing everything has been very well done. e: Mostly I just wanted people to talk about that more rather than just all the second-half stuff, I think what (I think) Angela is hinting at is really interesting. RPZip fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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Sep 5, 2020 17:04
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So far this seems like the sort of story that's not trying to surprise you with plot twists occurring, but rather focus on the details and ramifications of those twists. A bunch of people guessed ages ago that the AIs were built from people, this isn't a surprise, but what's important is the "why" and "how" of that fact.
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Sep 5, 2020 17:07
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Seeing twists coming or not, the game handles it really drat well, music, presentation, emotionally grabbing you. Definitely not what I was expecting when I first played it. It was when I got to this point that I realized I was truly on Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
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Sep 5, 2020 17:41
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King of Bleh posted:So far this seems like the sort of story that's not trying to surprise you with plot twists occurring, but rather focus on the details and ramifications of those twists. A bunch of people guessed ages ago that the AIs were built from people, this isn't a surprise, but what's important is the "why" and "how" of that fact. Well yeah it's horror and not a mystery so surprises/revelations would tend more to the shocking/disturbing/surreal/unpleasant side of things, rather than passive gratification for having nonzero reading comprehension skills.
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Sep 5, 2020 17:50
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LMAO I guess that's why it's called Lobotomy Corp.
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Sep 5, 2020 18:58
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TeeQueue posted:
For the record, plucky side characters die all the time. Something has to motivate the hero, and nothing better for it than fridging the likeable sidekick. Also, I wonder what the janitors in this place are like.
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Sep 5, 2020 19:11
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Huh? But didn't we just agree-
If we go with him, we'll be the plucky side characters. And plucky side characters…
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I've only gotten the first reveal on my playthrough thus far. I got one of the Clerk's Rights abnormalities, so I was unable to suppress Noon ordeals, let alone Dusk ordeals. On day 18 right now, so hopefully I'll catch back up soon.
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Sep 5, 2020 19:38
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seaborgium posted:For the record, plucky side characters die all the time. Something has to motivate the hero, and nothing better for it than fridging the likeable sidekick. The first time the cognition filter failed there was a corpse just hanging around in the manager's office, I'm not sure there are janitors
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Sep 5, 2020 19:43
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Solitair posted:I've only gotten the first reveal on my playthrough thus far. I got one of the Clerk's Rights abnormalities, so I was unable to suppress Noon ordeals, let alone Dusk ordeals. On day 18 right now, so hopefully I'll catch back up soon. I didn't surpress Dusk for the first time until my second playthrough, so I wouldn't worry toooo much about that. You're likely to do better than me... eternaldough fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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Sep 5, 2020 19:50
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atelier morgan posted:The first time the cognition filter failed there was a corpse just hanging around in the manager's office, I'm not sure there are janitors
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Sep 5, 2020 19:50
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Ah, so we finally find the brains involved in the titular lobotomy. I'm starting to think Angela is the only one who's not going to try to kill us by virtue of actually being an AI and not constantly having horrible flashbacks to her previous existence.
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Sep 5, 2020 19:55
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exploding clowns and obelisks dropping out of the sky keep wiping out the cleaning staff
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Sep 5, 2020 19:57
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It's interesting that according to her, her body should be more or less as it actually appears to X. But then, now that I think about it, we already knew that. When the filters were down, Angela just looked like Angela, merely more detailed. Presumably the technology developed to make the Sephirot was refined for her or something? Why bother giving her an actual humanoid body when the boxes should be just as efficient, given that her role is administrative and not hands on?
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Sep 5, 2020 20:00
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Janitors are probably the clerks, which are to Lobotomy Corporation what D-class is to the SCP foundation. This probably translates to them on average making more of a mess with their horrible deaths than they manage to clean up before said horrible deaths EDIT: Relating to gameplay, how long are you expecting it to take for the facility's agents to turn Malkuth into scrap metal? I'm guessing 2 minutes since they have multiple WAW-tier and ALEPH-tier EGO to work with, and since this is the first one the HP and resists might only be about on par with a dusk ordeal rather than full-bore "can you suppress an ALEPH" absurdity. hopefully the inevitable replacement Malkuth doesn't snap like this one did the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Sep 5, 2020 |
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Sep 5, 2020 20:03
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the Orb of Zot posted:EDIT: Relating to gameplay, how long are you expecting it to take for the facility's agents to turn Malkuth into scrap metal? I'm guessing 2 minutes since they have multiple WAW-tier and ALEPH-tier EGO to work with, and since this is the first one the HP and resists might only be about on par with a dusk ordeal rather than full-bore "can you suppress an ALEPH" absurdity. Didn't you see the "If Malkuth had a gun" chart?! This will surely be the greatest challenge in the game...
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Sep 5, 2020 20:21
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Oh god you're right. Welp I guess this was a good LP while it lasted.
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Sep 5, 2020 20:25
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The scene with Tiphereth had two jarring moments when I first played. The crushing is VERY sudden, they're talking and then just boom. And the zoom forces you to just look at all the meat leaking out of the box. The other jarring part was Malkuth coming in. Punishing Bird was in control for me, so she'd still was constantly saying stuff to me. The notepad, that easily recognizable aspect of Malkuth, made me uncomfortable since it was HER trait, familiarity mixed in with the uncomfortably brutal crushing. Angela's core suppression conversation is one of those things that hit me on this reread. It's both kind of meta and not. She's literally telling you that you can just keep playing regularly. But she's asking (without directly asking) you to suppress it, and I think that's the first genuine request she has for you. Malkuth's core suppression conversation is pretty good too (for a definition of 'good'). 'Oh I haven't seen you in a while, what's on your mind...... oh'. She's just smiling at you while talking about hopelessness and a terrible death, and the smile just keeps getting bigger as she talks. It just added to the unsettling aspect. And then you have the flashback with IGNORE x3. That... yeah.
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Sep 5, 2020 20:33
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I'm going to say it. Elijah wouldn't have been my first choice for conversion to a horrible half-life given her blatant disregard for OSHA and research protocols. But I also wouldn't have ignored her, either. 
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Sep 5, 2020 20:34
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Ok I have realized my terrible idea. If only I had any artistic talent to work with.
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Sep 5, 2020 21:28
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the Orb of Zot posted:Ok I have realized my terrible idea.  okay but I love this though.
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Sep 5, 2020 22:28
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So out of curiosity, are there any thematically appropriate Hebrew words/names/letters that start with X?
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Just gonna say that there is one image still to come that I made sure to screenshot and use as one of my rotating desktop images. Because holy poo poo.
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azren posted:So out of curiosity, are there any thematically appropriate Hebrew words/names/letters that start with X? Well, if we're willing to bend it to not actually Hebrew merely Abrahamic, but thematically fun: Χριστός. The Greek Χ is Chi, so that's to Christós or Christ. A has returned! (from the dead?) Incidentally, this is where xmas comes from. Chi was a historical abbreviation for Christ.
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azren posted:So out of curiosity, are there any thematically appropriate Hebrew words/names/letters that start with X? Hebrew doesn't have X as a single letter so no. Even if you go with "ks" or "ch" I can't think of a single word that would start with it (as a native Hebrew speaker).
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