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punk rebel ecks posted:Were the Postal games ever even good or just notable due to their controversy and Gary Coleman? P2 was interesting as a sandbox and kind of unique. But no, none of them are really worth a poo poo in the harsh light of day.
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END ME SCOOB posted:P2 was interesting as a sandbox and kind of unique. I mean if you can get it on one of the $1-2 sales and go in expecting all the grace of season 1 of South Park, it's still quite an experience. Of all the things P2 does, I'm most surprised I've basically never seen another game do the 'freeform trail of gasoline' thing as well as it does. What'd RWS do that we hate, though? Why's 3DR tarnished by association?
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Postal 1 plays pretty bad but it has some interesting visuals and insane rambling between levels and at the very end. Postal 2 was an ok rear end in a top hat simulator through and through. Extremely juvenile and offensive to practically eye-rolling levels but competent enough to have fun going around kicking NPCs and setting things on fire. It obviously aged like milk though. I don't actually know how either of them played or felt compared to other games that came out at the same time since I only tried them much later. I imagine it's impossible to find an objective review of the first game too but funnily enough PC Gamer (the magazine) gave the second game a score of 79.
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MonkeyforaHead posted:I mean if you can get it on one of the $1-2 sales and go in expecting all the grace of season 1 of South Park... i think it's making games with all the grace of season 1 of South Park. doesn't seem surprising to me that someone still stuck in exactly that frame of reference today wouldn't seem fun and cool to hang out with. It's not even broadly accepted by the culture to be that way anymore. it's a deliberately archaic and out of touch throwback to do that stuff now. That's the problem with this whole 90's nostalgia "boomer shooter" label they're putting on these things. It's not just an ""indie"" return to making games with a different style, it's also an appeal to nostalgia (for the older viewers) or imagined nostalgia (for the younger ones) that winds up sandbagging the whole aesthetic/gameplay style with association to the death-metal gross-out blah blah 90's white edgy NIN fan devs. you don't have to make games with fast, active movement and twitch shooting gameplay look exactly like quake. or have the cultural sensitivity of Postal. But they deliberately do it as a kind of statement - see the weird bullshit in Duke Nukem Forever. If their whole brand is being the edgy X-rated shock value thing that's fine, but live by the sword die by the sword - people aren't obligated to give them a pass on using slurs or whatever because they're only doing it for shock value. w/r/t 3DRealms there was that whole Ion Fury fiasco. Someone in that company at least is a dumb enough shithead to cave on pressure against about removing a joke about an Olay bottle being named Ogay. which like. if you get enough pressure about a joke that stupid you may as well remove it. saying they would remove it and then deciding not to after backlash hit them was really ridiculous. IMO tho this kind of stuff isn't as big of a deal as like those indie devs who invited nick robinson on their stream and helped to rehabilitate him to teh point that he now has his own semi-succesful youtube channel. like I kind of think we over-focus on the problems of what a game has in it rather than how it is made and who profits from that, and the direct harm they cause through abuse Impermanent fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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As for 3D Realms, let's just take little moment to remember:quote:Joint statement from Voidpoint and 3D Realms: All this after screencaps of several of the game's devs messages on the official Discord were passed around, indicating that hateful and homophobic views were tolerated there for a long time. So... if the devs themselves were doing it, doesn't that make the claim of "having a need to keep the community forums clean" sound a little off? Or did the Discord have simply have different rules until they got caught? Oh, and the sprite they expressed remorse over removing was a homophobic slur in a hidden area. Hardly impacts the artistic vision of the game.
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ErrEff posted:As for 3D Realms, let's just take little moment to remember: To me, the most off putting stuff in the game wasn't the slurs, but easter egg messages like women lying about domestic abuse.
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MonkeyforaHead posted:What'd RWS do that we hate, though? Why's 3DR tarnished by association? Put Milo in Postal 2
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Finally got around to playing the demo for Iron Danger, an RPG with a neat time manipulation gimmick. Anyone who played the full game: Is there some way to get better camera control so I can see wtf is happening in front of me rather than only overhead? Do you ever get more party members beyond the original 2? Is there a way to cue up commands for both characters instead of having one characters actions play out, then rewind time?
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punk rebel ecks posted:but easter egg messages like women lying about domestic abuse.
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punk rebel ecks posted:To me, the most off putting stuff in the game wasn't the slurs, but easter egg messages like women lying about domestic abuse. The only one I know of was the homophobic slur that was in hidden level geometry (that they removed.) Any examples of what you're talking about?
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The new Postal 2 expansion has a grave stone dedicated to game journalism, the very same grave stone got featured in a GoG tweet and became part of that debacle too
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Ok, thanks! My biggest worries about the game were that it was completely focused on following the story with no option of doing anything else, or that it would turn into a shooter later, or that the PC port was bad. But it looks like there are none of those issues, so I guess I'll be getting Death Stranding!
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MonkeyforaHead posted:What'd RWS do that we hate, though? Why's 3DR tarnished by association? I think it's because RWS jumped into Gamergate with both feet.
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Man I'll just keep playing Doom for the hundredth time while dipping into Dusk and Amid evil when the mood strikes me. Dragon Age Inquisition: Which trials are fun and which are bad? I was thinking Walk Softly and Rest Easy, while unsure about Travel Light. Edit: Picking them for gameplay changes and rewards, not achievements. Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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Black Griffon posted:https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/788 Thanks. I guess I'll get the standard one (no loot window). It's a .daimod file, the mod has no instructions, do you know where I'm supposed to save it?
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Phlegmish posted:Thanks. I guess I'll get the standard one (no loot window). Download this, point it in the direction of the DA exe, unzip the mod file and import it with the mod manager. It'll convert the mod file to the proprietary format and it should work out.
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Hell yes, works like a charm. I'm ready for the collectathon, spamming v, give me all the elfroot you've got.
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Good times. Meanwhile, I've done what I always do in this game, which is to create a character that looks great in the creation screen and like absolute rear end in-game, and I still haven't decided to love her lor leave her.
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Black Griffon posted:Good times. Meanwhile, I've done what I always do in this game, which is to create a character that looks great in the creation screen and like absolute rear end in-game, and I still haven't decided to love her lor leave her. Hah, you just reminded me of how derpy my DA:I character looked. I seem to remember it making every character I made look like their lips and face were glistening from being freshly coated in baby oil. Damn Dirty Ape fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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It might be the worst game for unintentionally making glistening weirdos. You can change it when you get to the keep, but it takes a bit to get there.
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punk rebel ecks posted:To me, the most off putting stuff in the game wasn't the slurs, but easter egg messages like women lying about domestic abuse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5PuJGzbcvY
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Black Griffon posted:It might be the worst game for unintentionally making glistening weirdos. Especially if you play on an old system (or 360/PS3) where the lack of effect support makes everyone look KMMO oily
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Black Griffon posted:Good times. Meanwhile, I've done what I always do in this game, which is to create a character that looks great in the creation screen and like absolute rear end in-game, and I still haven't decided to love her lor leave her. Reminds me of when I played Mass Effect and made what I thought was a good looking Shepard only for him to turn out to be some pasty ghoulish thing instead.
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It was an ace move on Bioware's part to place the character creator into an environment with weird green lighting that isn't found anywhere else in the game so you never know what you get after starting.
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My ME1+2 Shepard looked so bad Mass Effect 3 refused to import it so I had to roll with the default look.
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Oh thank god, I misremembered, you can change your look like half an hour in.
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OhFunny posted:My ME1+2 Shepard looked so bad Mass Effect 3 refused to import it so I had to roll with the default look. that's just how importing into 3 worked (or rather didn't)
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Black Griffon posted:Oh thank god, I misremembered, you can change your look like half an hour in. that was a free dlc added later
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iirc it was all but impossible to make a Femshep that didn't look like various races of Frau Farbissina
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Rinkles posted:that was a free dlc added later Yeah I know, but I thought it only unlocked once you got to the keep.
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MonkeyforaHead posted:I mean if you can get it on one of the $1-2 sales and go in expecting all the grace of season 1 of South Park, it's still quite an experience. Of all the things P2 does, I'm most surprised I've basically never seen another game do the 'freeform trail of gasoline' thing as well as it does. The Postal games are giant edgelord games, the CEO of RWS is a huge MAGA guy, they jumped into GG, put Milo into Postal 2 dlc. Their whole brand is that played out "we hate everyone equally. Offended?  " courting controversy thing at the best of times.I don't hate 3DR but it's disappointing to see them all working together especially after how the Voidpoint thing shook out. Edit so I can just make this one post and be done:Destructive Realms Polish nationalist connection and the writer on Hatred is a member of some nazi bands Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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drat the Tony Hawk remake is really good. I played it for way too long yesterday and now my old hands are sore.
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I am finally thinking of getting an XCOM game. Where should I start? I was thinking of getting Enemy Unknown or is 2 better in every way and I should just play that one?
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ToxicToast posted:I am finally thinking of getting an XCOM game. Where should I start? I was thinking of getting Enemy Unknown or is 2 better in every way and I should just play that one? Of the new XCOMs, Enemy Unknown/Within is the best introduction to them. XCOM 2 adds a lot and mixes up a lot of the mechanics, and you'll enjoy it more with the first game under your belt. Also the first game is REALLY good and I have 100+ hours in it. e: Enemy Unknown/Within is so good that it basically invented the modern XCOM genre by showing everyone that turn based squad tactics could be good.
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OhFunny posted:My ME1+2 Shepard looked so bad Mass Effect 3 refused to import it so I had to roll with the default look. My shepard always looked so bad I just eventually always chose the default option on purpose.
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I have actually managed to make a DA:I character look half-decent and now I can never uninstall again.
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Just started Alan Wake:AN and it still looks pretty great! Remedy games just always have a real "crispness" to their graphics that stand the test of time. Even the first Max Payne's environments hold up well.
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Remind me of something: the first Alan Wake was originally supposed to be an open world, where your could freely explore the town and surrounding woods, right?
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Mordja posted:Remind me of something: the first Alan Wake was originally supposed to be an open world, where your could freely explore the town and surround woods, right? yep (edit: better video that includes some old vaseline-enriched gameplay presentation) MonkeyforaHead fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Sep 6, 2020 |
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Det_no posted:Oh I see Oh is this a remake of the first one? The first one had some wild poo poo, especially the last level which absolutely would get the game banned today
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