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kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Floofy posted:

Hi fantasy football veterans! I’m taking part in my first fantasy season this year and I’ve read though most of this thread just trying to remember common names and to figure out all the acronyms. Still not sure what a PPR in reference to leagues is (some are 0.5 PPR’s?)

Couple questions though

My draft is Tuesday, how often are the beer sheets updated so I have the most current info possible?

And my league has about 6 defensive players on the rosters. When would I start trying to draft d men over offensive dudes?

It will be easier to answer specific questions so if you have any more ask the thread.


May the odds be in your favor.

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Floofy
Jan 17, 2004

Ches Neckbeard posted:

PPR: Points Per Reception. .5 means 1/2 point per reception. If a league is listed as just PPR that means it's 1 PPR

Advice on defensive players mostly depends on what the scoring settings are for them and which positions are used. There's not much of a standard for how that is handled so we'd need that to give better advice on where to start with them.

Points per reception, of course. Why the WR’s are so valuable i take it..

D positions are D/DB/DB/LB/LB plus the standard entire team defence category.

Points for tackles (0.5 PPT i guess?), sack 5, tackles for loss 1, forced fumbles 2, touchdowns 6, blocked kicks 3, safeties 2, fumble recoveries 5, interceptions 5

Thanks in advance for the advice, I’m really looking forward to getting stomped all year while I learn the in’s and out’s of the fantasy football game.

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Floofy posted:

Points per reception, of course. Why the WR’s are so valuable i take it..

D positions are D/DB/DB/LB/LB plus the standard entire team defence category.

Points for tackles (0.5 PPT i guess?), sack 5, tackles for loss 1, forced fumbles 2, touchdowns 6, blocked kicks 3, safeties 2, fumble recoveries 5, interceptions 5

Thanks in advance for the advice, I’m really looking forward to getting stomped all year while I learn the in’s and out’s of the fantasy football game.

Nothing for assisted tackles?

Alright inside linebackers are your money makers followed by outside linebackers and safeties. Tackling is your money maker. Pass rush specialist linebackers tend to be traps. They're out to hit the QB not typically stop the run or play coverage. The ball is not near them. If the ball isn't near them a lot there's less chance to score points.

Big Name Corners (Richard Sherman/Patrick Peterson/etc): these men are very good at their jobs which is to keep the ball from being thrown in their direction. If the ball isn't near them there's less chance of a pick, tackle PBU and whatnot which means fewer chances to get you points. Stay very very far from these men.

https://www.idpguru.com/ is a decent resource for stuff as well.

Floofy
Jan 17, 2004

Ches Neckbeard posted:

Nothing for assisted tackles?

Defence stuff

No assisted tackles

So at what point might I be looking to get Darius Lenard? Seems to be the top rated guy out there.

Like, might he be ahead of a rb3 or 4?

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
I wouldn't be looking at IDP's until the 6th at the earliest personally. There's a ton of variability year to year. In that scoring set up I wouldn't be expecting much more than 10 points a week average from your top defensive picks.

MakaVillian
Aug 16, 2003

Well, in Whoville they say - that his tiny hands grew three sizes that day.

kiimo posted:

I feel good about passing on Swift now

I was so happy I drafted him and now look.

I have Kerryon too fuuuuuuuuck.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Floofy posted:

Points per reception, of course. Why the WR’s are so valuable i take it..

D positions are D/DB/DB/LB/LB plus the standard entire team defence category.

Points for tackles (0.5 PPT i guess?), sack 5, tackles for loss 1, forced fumbles 2, touchdowns 6, blocked kicks 3, safeties 2, fumble recoveries 5, interceptions 5

Thanks in advance for the advice, I’m really looking forward to getting stomped all year while I learn the in’s and out’s of the fantasy football game.

Ches Neckbeard posted:

Nothing for assisted tackles?

Alright inside linebackers are your money makers followed by outside linebackers and safeties. Tackling is your money maker. Pass rush specialist linebackers tend to be traps. They're out to hit the QB not typically stop the run or play coverage. The ball is not near them. If the ball isn't near them a lot there's less chance to score points.

Hard disagree. OLBs are the dudes to target with those settings. Sacks being 10x the value of tackles, FF and FR being highly valued, and no assisted tackle scoring makes typically valuable tackle machine LBs much less valuable.

Zach Cunningham had 99 solo, 7 TFL, 2 sacks, 2 FR, for 76.5 points
Darius Leonard had 71 solo, 7 TFL, 5 sacks, 5 ints, 1 TD, for 98.5 points (in 13 games)

vs

TJ Watt had 35 solo, 14 TFL, 14.5 sacks, 4 FR, 8 FF, 2 ints, for 147.5 points
Chandler Jones had 42 solo, 11 TFL, 19 sacks, 3 FR, 8 FF, for 158 points
Shaq Barrett had 45 solo, 19 TFL, 19.5 sack, 6 FF, 1 int, for 156 points

and lower end dudes too,

Zadarius Smith had 41 solo, 17 TFL, 13.5 sacks, 1 FF, for 107
Harold Landry had 43 solo, 12 TFL, 9 sacks, 2 FR, 1 int, for 93.5
Khalil Mack had 40 solo, 8 TFL, 8.5 sacks, 1 FR, 5 FF, for 85.5 points

So when everyone else starts drafting the high end ILBs in the middle rounds, Floofy should sit back and grab top tier OLBs a couple rounds later, or just wait and grab other OLBs even later. You're giving up a ton of value going with the standard advice of targeting ILBs.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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MakaVillian posted:

I was so happy I drafted him and now look.

I have Kerryon too fuuuuuuuuck.

Collect them all for the full set!

VietCampo
Aug 24, 2010
drafted for my 12 man .5 PPR league that starts 3 WR's. I am absolutely happy with what i walked away with. Downside is half my team is on bye in week 11.

I picked 6th and Kamara was there for me to take.

VietCampo fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Sep 7, 2020

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
I love my family league, the draft always makes me lol. 8 team standard.

QB: Dak, Rodgers
RB: Zeke, Chubb, David Johnson, Bell, Akers, Swift
WR: Julio, Golladay, Evans
TE: Engram

But my fave team:

QB: Stafford, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, Rojo, Dobbins, Peterson
WR: Godwin, Thielen, Allen Robinson, Marquise Brown
TE: Higbee, Cook

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

I just did my 12 team PPR and I hate the Gibson pick but RBs went QUICK and had to take someone. Otherwise think I'm okay with my team... I'm really happy with my run of Diontae, Slayton, then Preston Williams:
RBs: Dalvin Cook, Kenyan Drake, David Johnson, Antonio Gibson, Chase Edmonds, Darrel Williams
WRs: Allen Robinson, Terry McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Darius Slayton, Preston Williams
TEs: Mike Gesicki, Jonnu Smith
QBs: Russell Wilson, Gardner Minshew II
NE Def

This is the draft order:

AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Sep 7, 2020

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Just received a trade request offering Jordan Howard for Antonio Gibson. It looks like Howard is the stronger player on paper with the big caveat that Gibson is a lottery ticket, especially with AP gone. Is that a fair assessment?

Might as well post my full (non PPR) team, drafted last Sunday:

QB: Matt Ryan
RB1: Ezekiel Elliott
RB2: Joe Mixon
Flex: David Montgomery
WR1: Amari Cooper
WR2: Courtland Sutton
TE: George Kittle
D: Bills
K: Zane Gonzalez

Bench: Terry Mclaurin, Evan Engram, Anthony Miller, Matt Breida, Mecole Hardman, Jerry Jeudy, Antonio Gibson

Artonos
Dec 3, 2018

Party Boat posted:

Just received a trade request offering Jordan Howard for Antonio Gibson. It looks like Howard is the stronger player on paper with the big caveat that Gibson is a lottery ticket, especially with AP gone. Is that a fair assessment?

Might as well post my full (non PPR) team, drafted last Sunday:

QB: Matt Ryan
RB1: Ezekiel Elliott
RB2: Joe Mixon
Flex: David Montgomery
WR1: Amari Cooper
WR2: Courtland Sutton
TE: George Kittle
D: Bills
K: Zane Gonzalez

Bench: Terry Mclaurin, Evan Engram, Anthony Miller, Matt Breida, Mecole Hardman, Jerry Jeudy, Antonio Gibson

Gibson is way ahead of Howard. I wouldn't do that, especially when you've got 2 strong rb's.

opposable thumbs.db
Jan 7, 2008
It's hard to say that it's wrong that my life revolves around my dog when she is cuter and more interesting than me
Pillbug

weekly font posted:

Thanks! Gonna punch a close version of these these into ESPN (cause we want punters, obv) and see who comes up as top tier.

Ooh, if you're on ESPN then you should be able to do something with WR / TE by gaining points for targets but losing points for receptions / yards / 1st-downs / TDs.

The Wild Man of YOLO
Apr 20, 2004

A little cross-country, gentlemen?

Drafted earlier this afternoon in my league of record, a 12-team 0.5 PPR league. I'm... pretty okay with it? I'll need to drop someone for a kicker, guessing Goedert or Edwards.

QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Josh Jacobs
RB: Kenyan Drake
WR: DJ Moore
WR: AJ Brown
TE: Mike Gesicki
FLEX: Antonio Gibson
FLEX: Marvin Jones
DEF: Titans
K:

BENCH
RB: Chris Thompson
RB: Alexander Mattison
WR: DeVante Parker
WR: Anthony Miller
WR: Diontae Johson
WR: Bryan Edwards
TE: Dallas Goedert

And just now finished drafting in my :siren:first-ever auction draft:siren: in the Beer League, maybe didn't do horribly:

QB: Tom Brady ($2)
RB: Ezekiel Elliott ($67)
RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire ($62)
WR: AJ Brown ($21)
WR: DeVante Parker ($9)
TE: TJ Hockenson ($1)
FLEX: Jonathan Taylor ($14)
D/ST: Steelers ($2)
K: Rodrigo Blankenship ($2)

BENCH
QB: Daniel Jones ($3)
RB: Chris Thompson ($3)
RB: Boston Scott ($2)
WR: Marvin Jones ($7)
WR: Jamison Crowder ($2)
WR: Parris Campbell ($1)
WR: Anthony Miller ($1)

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?





tell me why I'm a a moron for drafting this team.

Matt Ryan Atl, QB
$5

Nick Chubb Cle, RB
$53

Kenyan Drake Ari, RB
$41

Odell Beckham Jr. Cle, WR
$23

Mike Evans TB, WR
$25

T.Y. Hilton Ind, WR
$9

Courtland Sutton Den, WR
$18


Hayden Hurst Atl, TE
$6


Harrison Butker KC, K
$4
Ravens D/ST Bal, D/ST
$3


Marlon Mack Ind, RB
$4
Jerry Jeudy Den, WR
$2
Duke Johnson Hou, RB
$1
Emmanuel Sanders NO, WR
$3
Mike Gesicki Mia, TE
$2
Allen Lazard GB, WR
$1

Chernabog
Apr 16, 2007



How's this? 10 team PPR.

1 QB: K. Murray
2 RB: Zeke, A. Jones, Gibson, D.Mont.
2WR: Kenny G, A.Rob, Sutton, J. Brown, Crowder
TE: Andrews, Gesicki
Flex

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Chernabog posted:

How's this? 10 team PPR.

1 QB: K. Murray
2 RB: Zeke, A. Jones, Gibson, D.Mont.
2WR: Kenny G, A.Rob, Sutton, J. Brown, Crowder
TE: Andrews, Gesicki
Flex

Don’t like two TEs but looks good otherwise. Kenny G worries me a bit as your WR1 because the Lions tend to be fantasy poison

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Keith Atherton posted:

Don’t like two TEs but looks good otherwise. Kenny G worries me a bit as your WR1 because the Lions tend to be fantasy poison

He was WR9 (WR3 in STD!) last season in PPR with Stafford only playing in 8 games. The guy is a budding star and would have no problem with him as my WR1.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

jabro posted:

He was WR9 (WR3 in STD!) last season in PPR with Stafford only playing in 8 games. The guy is a budding star and would have no problem with him as my WR1.

Oh I know! He’s a great player and nothing wrong about the pick. Just saying in a 10 team PPR league that stood out to me. :shrug:

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
Had my bar league draft tonight

12 teams .5 PPR, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE Flex

1.06 Michael Thomas WR - NO (Henry was available but just felt this was a safer pick)

2 Travis Kelce TE - KC
3 James Conner RB -PIT
4 AJ Brown WR - TEN
5 DJ Chark WR - JAC
6 Kyler Murray QB - ARI
7 Michael Gallup WR - DAL
8 Jordan Howard RB - MIA
9 Zack Moss RB - BUF
10 Diontae Johnson WR - PIT
11 Anthony Miller WR - CHI
12 Boston Scott RB - PHI
13 Philadelphia D
14 Younghoe Koo K - ATL

If Kyler goes down I’m screwed as most teams took a second QB

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Keith Atherton posted:

Oh I know! He’s a great player and nothing wrong about the pick. Just saying in a 10 team PPR league that stood out to me. :shrug:
I would happily take Kenny G as my WR1 - just up the page I posted my PPR draft where my top two WRs are AR15 and Terry McLaurin.

Keith Atherton posted:

Had my bar league draft tonight

12 teams .5 PPR, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE Flex

1.06 Michael Thomas WR - NO (Henry was available but just felt this was a safer pick)

2 Travis Kelce TE - KC
3 James Conner RB -PIT
4 AJ Brown WR - TEN
5 DJ Chark WR - JAC
6 Kyler Murray QB - ARI
7 Michael Gallup WR - DAL
8 Jordan Howard RB - MIA
9 Zack Moss RB - BUF
10 Diontae Johnson WR - PIT
11 Anthony Miller WR - CHI
12 Boston Scott RB - PHI
13 Philadelphia D
14 Younghoe Koo K - ATL

If Kyler goes down I’m screwed as most teams took a second QB
Considering the amazing WRs you have you could drop Anthony Miller and grab Minshew while he's still available. I'm not biased at all, though I do honestly think he'll be respectable in fantasy.

AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Sep 7, 2020

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Quote is not edit

Chernabog
Apr 16, 2007



Keith Atherton posted:

Don’t like two TEs but looks good otherwise. Kenny G worries me a bit as your WR1 because the Lions tend to be fantasy poison

Yeah, I just picked Gesicky in the last round but I'll probably drop him for a handcuff or lottery ticket. I'm not worried about KG, had him last year and he was great.
Thanks.

Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

A but sad I wasn’t able to leave my home league auction this weekend with McLaurin, Hollywood or Sanders.

I did end up getting a number of my guys, and building an upside heavy roster with some flexibility in the form of some extra QBs, who always have good trade value in this Superflex format.

12 Team, .5 PPR, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/FLX/SFLX/DST/K ($200)

QB: Allen ($15), Stafford ($9), Lock ($4), Haskins ($3)
RB: Cook ($59), Taylor ($7), Dobbins ($6), Moss ($5), Edmonds ($2), Damien Harris ($2)
WR: OBJ ($29), Ridley ($22), Chark ($8), Gallup ($14), Diontae Johnson ($4), Laviska Shenault ($2)
TE: Hockenson ($4)
D/ST: Colts
K: Gonzalez

RB2 spot to start the season is clearly the weak link, but I’m massively high on both Taylor and Dobbins, and think one of them takes the lead role in their backfield sooner rather than later.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I never really thought to check if there was a fantasy football thread but I guess there is!

In my draft this year two rubes took quarterbacks in the first round, plus a few very questionable running backs mixed in there so somehow I ended up getting Kelce in the third round(10 team league). I have Zeke, Julio Jones and Kelce, that's a pretty strong base.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
1 ppr, how'd i do? I'm "This team sucks" (drafted before Raegor's injury)




e: dropped Raegor for Antonio Gibson.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




Frodo or Chancey are the clear winners to me

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I love your team too though

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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Do you play 1 QB? Why did team 1 go QB QB at the turn of the second, and then get a 3rd backup QB when they have the top 2 already on roster, going to squander McCaffrey :( . All of the teams are solid enough since it is a 10 team league, though I prefer P pants and Frodo's teams if I had to choose 2. Aaron Jones the steal of the draft at 27 in PPR.

Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Sep 7, 2020

Chill Penguin
Jan 10, 2004

you know korky buchek?
Trying to decide who to flex, Diontae Johnson or Brandin Cooks. Leaning towards Johnson due to the Giants D seeming less competent than KC.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
Ah yeah, we should probably boot up a 2020 sit/start thread, huh?

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

MacheteZombie posted:

1 ppr, how'd i do? I'm "This team sucks" (drafted before Raegor's injury)




e: dropped Raegor for Antonio Gibson.
I really like your team, especially after the drop Reags and pickup Gibson. Gibson for free is the perfect way to take a flyer on him, if you ask my incompetent rear end.

edit: Though you may want to replace "no defense" with an actual team defense :haw:

edit2: I worry about Ertz losing more and more snaps to Goedert so I avoided him this year and I am instead am gambling on Gesicki and Jonnu Smith with late round picks. I am really high on Jonnu because he did okay last year with an unstable QA situation and Delanie Walker being TE #1 on the team. Now there is no more Delanie and the QB situation is stabilized so Jonnu is the #2 receiving threat on the team.

AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 7, 2020

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Thansk everyone.

Pain of Mind posted:

Do you play 1 QB? Why did team 1 go QB QB at the turn of the second, and then get a 3rd backup QB when they have the top 2 already on roster, going to squander McCaffrey :( . All of the teams are solid enough since it is a 10 team league, though I prefer P pants and Frodo's teams if I had to choose 2. Aaron Jones the steal of the draft at 27 in PPR.

1 qb, yeah no one knew what he was thinking. He's played before which made it even more baffling.


AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

I really like your team, especially after the drop Reags and pickup Gibson. Gibson for free is the perfect way to take a flyer on him, if you ask my incompetent rear end.

edit: Though you may want to replace "no defense" with an actual team defense :haw:

edit2: I worry about Ertz losing more and more snaps to Goedert so I avoided him this year and I am instead am gambling on Gesicki and Jonnu Smith with late round picks. I am really high on Jonnu because he did okay last year with an unstable QA situation and Delanie Walker being TE #1 on the team. Now there is no more Delanie and the QB situation is stabilized so Jonnu is the #2 receiving threat on the team.

I probably should have waited on tight end after Andrews got picked.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

MacheteZombie posted:

Thansk everyone.


1 qb, yeah no one knew what he was thinking. He's played before which made it even more baffling.


I probably should have waited on tight end after Andrews got picked.
Eh, Ertz is still good, I jut personally decided to avoid him after he laid a few stinkers last year due to Goedert getting targets at TE. I didnt watch many Eagles games but it easily could have been two TE sets they ran and there is nothing you can do :shrug:

The two QB thing is probably because he is going to outsmart everyone and trade one of them away for a position of need with someone desperate for a better QB. I've seen people do it before they never do well

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Last draft of the season, here's the board:
https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/140929/drafts

I drafted from the 2-slot. 12-team PPR with flex. FAAB in a known RB hoarder league where RBs are scarce on the wire. I knew ADP of similar format drafts beforehand. Division tiebreakers and playoff seeding mechanisms are same as NFL (so h2h really matters) and you know your schedule beforehand (division matchups for me are weeks 2/3/11/13). NarFFL is a huge relegation format league with 1574 individual owners. How'd I do?

Zeke
Carson
Thielen
OBJ
Keenan Allen
Antonio Gibson (surprised I got him here, he has been going in the 5th recently in other NarFFL leagues)
Phil Lindsay
Hunter Henry
Brees
Henry Ruggs III
Lat-Murray
Ravens
Pollard
Saints
Seibert
Doyle

Alfalfa
Apr 24, 2003

Superman Don't Need No Seat Belt
https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1303086476780097537

Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

Kinda tempted to drop Harris for James Robinson, newest RB hype machine... But the IR rules this year allow for return by Week 4, and I already have 2 Jags (Chark/Viska).

God I hate wasting a roster slot on an injured player

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
bluehost has poo poo the bed so I hope you dont need a beersheet right now :suicide:

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Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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pmchem posted:

Last draft of the season, here's the board:
https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/140929/drafts

I drafted from the 2-slot. 12-team PPR with flex. FAAB in a known RB hoarder league where RBs are scarce on the wire. I knew ADP of similar format drafts beforehand. Division tiebreakers and playoff seeding mechanisms are same as NFL (so h2h really matters) and you know your schedule beforehand (division matchups for me are weeks 2/3/11/13). NarFFL is a huge relegation format league with 1574 individual owners. How'd I do?

Zeke
Carson
Thielen
OBJ
Keenan Allen
Antonio Gibson (surprised I got him here, he has been going in the 5th recently in other NarFFL leagues)
Phil Lindsay
Hunter Henry
Brees
Henry Ruggs III
Lat-Murray
Ravens
Pollard
Saints
Seibert
Doyle

You took a lot of players that I am not a huge fan of, though that does not mean anything since I barely win :v: . I am not a huge fan of the strategy of the draft because it felt like you missed the RB last call by taking WR in the 4th and 5th round, and then were forced to draft RB that have IMO low upside during the WR sweet spot where you can get solid WR2s with upside in the 7th/8th round. Generally I have been loading up on WR round 6-9 since I see minimal difference between those and ones drafted in the 4th/5th rounds.

I realize this is a lot easier to do in hindsight, but if you took one RB of your choice drafted in the 5th, 6th, or 7th round over OBJ or Allen, and then one WR of your choice drafted in the 7th, 8th, or 9th round over Lindsay I think I would like the team a lot more. Hypothetically switching OBJ/Allen and Lindsay for Ingram/Mostart and Cooks/Jones/Landry sounds better to me at least. Then again what do I know, the season has not started yet, maybe by week 16 this would have 400 more points than whatever I would have drafted.

Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 7, 2020

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