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thespaceinvader posted:TROOOOOOOOOTS I'm going to beat ronya to this post but there are a great number of campaigns which have had notable Trot involvement in the latter half of last century so any 50 or 60 year old person who picked up their politics to a reasonable level in the first half of their life will definitely be wondering how Trot filled any particular leftwing group will be.
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Sep 7, 2020 19:28
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Fuckin trots We all know the only way we've got a chance at socialism is with the canters
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Sep 7, 2020 20:03
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If you're going to have any number of socialists involved in something you're going to have trots because this is Britain and our main products in the last half of the 20th century were bad cars and trots
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Sep 7, 2020 20:21
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Continuity RCP posted:If you're going to have any number of socialists involved in something you're going to have trots because this is Britain and our main products in the last half of the 20th century were bad cars and trots Jesus if only we'd produced as many people happy to talk about Marxism as we did Ford Escorts.
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Sep 7, 2020 20:24
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stev posted:IIRC she's mentioned that she was expected to write with a certain slant at the Guardian and they removed an article which wasn't melty enough.
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Sep 7, 2020 20:26
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Ms Adequate posted:Fuckin trots Sounds like something a cantrist melt would say...
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Qwertycoatl posted:I think it's partly that about 0.1% people in the country have died of it. It's a lot in absolute numbers but if you know 1000 people then you'd expect only one of them to be dead, and most people don't know 1000 people. My office went back today because as an IT company who primarily develop software we definitely need to be office based, and we did a straw poll of 'who we know gots the covid' and the grand total was 3 dead, 1 induced coma, and 1 person on a ventilator. I'm definitely going to be ground zero for the office outbreak later this month as the office one-way system pipes every single person entering or leaving the office, or going to get a coffee 2 inches from my desk.
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Sep 7, 2020 20:37
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Well we can't be full of trots, we don't even have justcola posted:the UKMT's official newspaper (I enjoyed the newspaper.)
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Sep 7, 2020 20:37
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Guavanaut posted:Well we can't be full of trots, we don't even have Editorial: disgusting imperialists slander chocolate orange: Defend and Uphold Terrysism!
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Sep 7, 2020 20:41
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Help keep centrist piss boiling: https://twitter.com/WorldCup_of_MPs/status/1302885629316001793?s=20 (Dawn, obviously)
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Continuity RCP posted:Editorial: disgusting imperialists slander chocolate orange: Defend and Uphold Terrysism! I resent being called an imperialist.
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Sep 7, 2020 20:47
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Miftan posted:I resent being called an imperialist. write in to the letters page
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Sep 7, 2020 20:51
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Okay, a very, very tentative dip of my toe in the water here - would you (the generic you) be interested in a podcast that was a self-guided walking tour? Sort of like the little player things they give you in museums, but, you know, for out on the street? Or is this a niche that's already been filled? The only things I can find are like conventional paper tour guides that have been chopped up and digitised (sometimes integrated into a not-at-all dodgy app). The idea i have in mind is basically an hour or so walk (paced out for a relatively slow walking pace) with specific waypoints where the history or interesting trivia was pointed out, then directions to the next waypoint and general chat - about what you've just seen, where you're walking, what you're about to see, etc - until that point. Obviously there's quite a few potential hurdles there (and TBH I think an app with some sort of GPS integration might be the best way of doing it instead of just an MP3 just because of the massive possible variations in walking speed and an unwillingness to send people careening off into Crack Alley instead of to the interesting Georgian water fountain) but as a general principle, what do people think?
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I want the version that tells me where I can buy crack and then tells me about the interesting Georgian water fountain while I'm high. Either that or a version with a GoPro too so that the traveling to London and walking around bits are optional, especially given the pandemic.
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That actually sounds like a really good idea. Put in the description that you should start at the front of X building, put in points every now and then where people can stop the recording or catch up if they need to. I think there's a way to save routes on google maps and then link to them, which means you could put a clickable route in the description.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Okay, a very, very tentative dip of my toe in the water here - would you (the generic you) be interested in a podcast that was a self-guided walking tour? Sort of like the little player things they give you in museums, but, you know, for out on the street? Or is this a niche that's already been filled? The only things I can find are like conventional paper tour guides that have been chopped up and digitised (sometimes integrated into a not-at-all dodgy app). There are some apps around that do self-guided walking tours of London. I haven't used any of them so no idea if they are any good or how they match up with your idea! eg: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tourblink.london&hl=en_GB https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trailtale.app&hl=en
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justcola posted:Let's see what's on tomorrows frontpage of the UKMT's official newspaper So glad this managed to slip through XR's net. nus 4 the peepole of britayne.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:There are some apps around that do self-guided walking tours of London. I haven't used any of them so no idea if they are any good or how they match up with your idea! Yeah, those are the not-at-all-dodgy ones I was talking about - the first one is Freemium and you have to pay for each tour (which is just a text file they run through google speech engine), the second one just reads out stuff based on your location and has a pretty eye-watering permissions list: quote:This app has access to: which means it definitely has one of the shittier ad engines integrated to it even if you do deny it all those permissions. Also I have the feeling both of them (and apps on the stores generally) probably have a content policy rather more restrictive than "chuck an MP3 up somewhere".
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Sep 7, 2020 21:33
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I think there's a way to save routes on google maps and then link to them, which means you could put a clickable route in the description. Alas that's now dead, which is a pity because they killed it as I was halfway through a loving *epic* post on my blog about Mile End Road that relied pretty heavily on that functionality. You can still do a shareable custom map layer for Google Maps the website, but not for Google Maps the app, but neither allow you to tie it to a route the way you used to. Obviously the user can click each thing in turn, but that's pretty much worse than just printing stuff out IMO.
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Guavanaut posted:I want the version that tells me where I can buy crack and then tells me about the interesting Georgian water fountain while I'm high. Actually... that's not that bad an idea. I've been trying to think how it could be done so it wasn't just one voice going on - I know it's hackneyed but the "one person explaining something to someone else" format is one I actually like - and was thinking that either a Google Earth timeline vid (assuming they've not killed *that* functionality for no loving reason as well) or something like the 360-video-converted-to-flat thing that I did here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF30jf1KkJU would be a handy guide track for that, so the person/people I'm talking to can see what I'm talking about, but there's no reason at all it couldn't be released in both formats.
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The Question IRL posted:Boris Johnson nihilism.text I'm sorry for your loss, TQIRL. The first anniversaries are the hardest to bear, and you must miss her terribly. With Brexit, someone made a couple of comments that stuck with me. The first is that, throughout this, the EU have sent top negotiators to the Brexit discussions, and until recently have always accommodated British requests for talks and extensions. No matter how privately they may want to throttle the British team, they are going out of their way to show that if talks break down it's not through lack of effort on their part. This won't matter to the hardline Brexiteers, nothing will be good enough for them, but it plays well within the EU and more globally to be seen as the grown up in the room. Britain manages to look even worse The second is that by insisting the talks cover the more contentious issues first (the bloody fish), the EU has thwarted Boris Johnson's plans to have a deal 95% done, with a series of positive headlines all about the Brits socking it to EU demands, before sadly announcing either the talks had collapsed, just as coronavirus and Christmas began distracting people from the details, or perhaps he truly believed the EU would blink at the last minute because everything that Johnson has ever wanted before, Johnson has got. Either way, the government didn't want a situation where people would have a couple of months to fully absorb the no-deal reality.
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99% invisible did an ep about the audios from the Smithsonian (I think) which you can access from anywhere, pretty interesting. Do the podcast, maybe even describe the route as you are doing it, to make it more vloggy, and put a disclaimer saying that if people get lost tough. I would listen, and I live nowhere near London. If you want more audio variety script the info bits for actors and use audio of you walking between locations as links.
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cynic posted:My office went back today because as an IT company who primarily develop software we definitely need to be office based, and we did a straw poll of 'who we know gots the covid' and the grand total was 3 dead, 1 induced coma, and 1 person on a ventilator. I would be kicking off about this, you need to be 2 m away from anything that might be a shared area. My current plan is to work from home until I am forced back, then take holiday until the 2nd wave starts proper in October.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Alas that's now dead, which is a pity because they killed it as I was halfway through a loving *epic* post on my blog about Mile End Road that relied pretty heavily on that functionality. You can still do a shareable custom map layer for Google Maps the website, but not for Google Maps the app, but neither allow you to tie it to a route the way you used to. Obviously the user can click each thing in turn, but that's pretty much worse than just printing stuff out IMO. If you make a route and click the ‘share’ function from the app you can send it to someone, which means that you can click that link to have a version yourself.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:06
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I hate the trots, most uncomfortable.
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Red Oktober posted:If you make a route and click the ‘share’ function from the app you can send it to someone, which means that you can click that link to have a version yourself. It then promptly resets itself the moment you step foot a millimetre off the route (or your GPS farts) and at random will either delete all the waypoints and direct you to the end, or direct you back to the start of the route to start again. This is on top of the normal Google fun of deciding that you haven't arrived somewhere because you weren't at the exact to-the-metre location, so endlessly routing you in circles around and around the place you're supposed to be - e.g. this 22 minute catastrofuck where it managed to route me around the Camden one-way system three times, with a random detour all the way back to Belsize Park, because the GPS coordinates for the motorcycle parking bay I was going for were very slightly off so it never told me to turn off for it:  Google's ability to remove useful functionality for literally no reason is positively Tory at times.
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Twisto's talking maps: I don't know if there's anything you could do with 'map my walk'? https://www.mapmywalk.com/ or Bing Maps?
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can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland? What would a no deal mean for Ireland / ni also? I really don’t get it. Why would he do it?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It then promptly resets itself the moment you step foot a millimetre off the route (or your GPS farts) and at random will either delete all the waypoints and direct you to the end, or direct you back to the start of the route to start again. This is on top of the normal Google fun of deciding that you haven't arrived somewhere because you weren't at the exact to-the-metre location, so endlessly routing you in circles around and around the place you're supposed to be - e.g. this 22 minute catastrofuck where it managed to route me around the Camden one-way system three times, with a random detour all the way back to Belsize Park, because the GPS coordinates for the motorcycle parking bay I was going for were very slightly off so it never told me to turn off for it: Well that's disappointing AF.
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teacup posted:can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland? Hello Mr Abbott, we were rather hoping that's the sort of thing your briefings would cover
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namesake posted:Hello Mr Abbott, we were rather hoping that's the sort of thing your briefings would cover Ok I deserved this
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teacup posted:can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland? MAXIMUM CHAOS!!!!!!! Or more seriously, it means the troubles restart and northern ireland is going to break away from the UK much sooner than anyone expected.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Okay, a very, very tentative dip of my toe in the water here - would you (the generic you) be interested in a podcast that was a self-guided walking tour? Sort of like the little player things they give you in museums, but, you know, for out on the street? Or is this a niche that's already been filled? The only things I can find are like conventional paper tour guides that have been chopped up and digitised (sometimes integrated into a not-at-all dodgy app). There's lot's of versions of that basic idea out there already, but they're all a bit pants because it's just regurgitating the stuff you'd read in a guidebook or wikipedia entry. A twenty minute long podcast covering a particular ten minute stroll from A to B would work really well.
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Jel Shaker posted:i wonder if n ireland will secede into a third country, neither u.k. nor ireland, but then i remember that they get so much cash from westminster that it’ll probably implode within weeks if it did that I'm fairly sure that NI succeeded from the UK and then splitting into an independent nation is a compromise that would please none of the people who live there. So it's what the Centrists would want.
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Most discussions about NI between mainlanders are basically just curated lists of phrases that would get you stabbed if you said them in front of a unionist / loyalist, doubly so if English.
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The Question IRL posted:I'm fairly sure that NI succeeded from the UK and then splitting into an independent nation is a compromise that would please none of the people who live there.
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teacup posted:can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland? 1. Self preservation, and to angle it early that it's everything being the EU's fault instead. All along the UK has been trying to 'square the circle', an impossible set of demands that are contradictory. Northern Ireland is an example. They want it to both be part of the EU, but also outside of the EU and fully UK. The compromise that May and the rest of the EU agreed to was a 'customs border' between NI and the rest of the UK, with a look at it a few years from now, after the place is settled into full brexit. This is because NI gets a shitload of its goods, and trades with, the Republic of Ireland. NI exports 30% of all its goods to Ireland, Ireland exports to NI just 1% (2016 figures). So the less red tape there is, the better it is for NI. But now Boris is threatening the customs border at the Irish border, which again is loving impossible to set up within 3 months. loving over NI more than Ireland and the EU. 2. Right now you can drive a truck full of goods to anywhere from anywhere in Ireland. So you have trade between businesses all over the place. If the customs is at the border, all trucks will have to wait until they are verified and allowed to travel. With no infrastructure, there is no way to check them all, so a build up will happen. Meaning possible 'Just In Time' food and such shortages. And Boris will frame it as Irelands problem, not the UKs. A lot of businesses and farmers are going to collapse next year. NI is already an economic wasteland, the usual brain drain to the south and elsewhere will speed up and NI will just be shittier. The Republic has sort of prepared for it, a few hundred million has been set aside to see what is going to happen. 3. No one in NI votes Tory, and Tories hate anyone not Tory. If they could get away with it, NI would have been left to defend for itself decades ago. And seeing there is no infrastructure set up after 4 years and counting, its time to go on the offensive and saber rattle before the food shortages start. By the time the poo poo does hit the fan, he will have retired as Best PM Ever! to all the other brain worm flag waving bigots.
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