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Shibawanko posted:i get you dont want to use a crt but compared to using an emulator getting some kind of setup that gets the signal onto whatever screen you use cant possibly be worse than the hoops you have to jump through for emulation. i never got runahead to work properly either, i always get weird incorrect inputs and other bullshit or just slowdown, and then you have to tweak various settings and other things like that. maybe real hardware is a bit of a pain too but i can genuinely say i never really enjoyed emulation, it's never felt worth doing and somehow just feels janky and lame Tbh I can't say I've ever encountered the problems you've had, which I guess is where the difference lies. Retroarch was insanely easy for me to setup. Went from install to being in game in about 10 minutes, extend that a couple more per system core I needed to add. bob dobbs is dead posted:emulation for dealios pre-2000 is basically plug and play Dolphin is pretty plug n play nowadays. PS2 is where you still actually have to gently caress with everything to make it work
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site posted:Dolphin is pretty plug n play nowadays. PS2 is where you still actually have to gently caress with everything to make it work dolphin is good but it never sounds right, and even then that gen is fairly available and cheap because there's no nostalgia attached to it yet, so why wouldn't you use the original hardware if you have it? you can hook up a ps2 or a gcn to an hdtv more easily than you can do with anything before it, and provided the disc reading hardware is still working the print and save media can last longer than cartridges if stored properly. anything before that is a pain in the rear end. crts are too heavy to justify even darius twin now if your goal is to play the last story undub without a way to create discs the wii will accept i can see the argument for dolphin. also i guess wii drives are starting to fail now so maybe wii games in general after a decade. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 21:33
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Sure, if you already have the console and games and a TV with the correct hookups. I didn't realize we were assuming that someone would be emulating games under that condition tho, considering the op said to just buy all that stuff. And tbh the sound in dolphin is definitely not bad enough to make me spend the money on all that poo poo since I've never noticed it
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Sep 7, 2020 21:36
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We are at a point in time where anything in the past 30 years is cheaper and easier to just buy than emulate.
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snes earthbound, hell no jack down that time period to 15 years, then sure
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3D Megadoodoo posted:We are at a point in time where anything in the past 30 years is cheaper and easier to just buy than emulate. Download ROM, open program, play Or Order game and system online, wait for it to come in. Hope it uses a/v input your tv supports, if not mod it or buy old TV. If you want to play a handheld you are required to mod it. Hope your used console you just bought doesn't crap out. Want to use a different kind of controller? Hope someone makes a custom mod to let you do that. No upscaling support. Hope you like looking at 320x240 on a 40in tv Gee I dunno site fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Sep 7, 2020 21:44
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we get it, you’re a huge dork
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i guess its also easier in europe because we have abundant scart crt tv's which take rgb with no fuss and you can pick one up for free usually, theyre not pretty but i really enjoy mine i used to emulate stuff all the time when i was younger but i struggle to think of a game that i finished in emulation, i think chrono trigger was the only one, and that's a turn based game where input lag doesn't matter. input lag just sucks poo poo and getting rid of it isn't easy, on top of all of the other stuff you have to tweak
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bob dobbs is dead posted:snes earthbound, hell no i'd say closer to 20. there's almost no ps2, xbox, or gcn games with the collector's demand of earthbound or suikoden 2. i'm sure there are one or two, chulip maybe? japanese first edition sealed okami? and steel batallion doesn't count lol. but i can't think of anything that was both good and also had a short print run starting from like 2001.
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food court bailiff posted:we get it, you’re a huge dork If I spend a bunch a money on collecting consoles and old TVs that's less dorky?
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Sep 7, 2020 21:49
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yeah, this is internecine dork civil war, hardware vs software peeps
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site posted:If I spend a bunch a money on collecting consoles and old TVs that's less dorky? depends on how often and how militantly you post about it dweebledee
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Feel free to post about something else
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3D Megadoodoo posted:We are at a point in time where anything in the past 30 years is cheaper and easier to just buy than emulate. Yeah lemme just go and drop 140 bucks on buying a legit PS1 Symphony of the Night disk from some retro game "collector" online.
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Sep 7, 2020 22:06
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playing on real hardware doesnt mean you have to actually buy the games, you can just use sd card interfaces
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Yeah lemme just go and drop 140 bucks on buying a legit PS1 Symphony of the Night disk from some retro game "collector" online. maybe you could try one of the other six platforms it was released for, many of which are still current
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3D Megadoodoo posted:We are at a point in time where anything in the past 30 years is cheaper and easier to just buy than emulate. hard and expensive: downloading a program and a ROM, running it on my computer i already own for non retro gaming purposes
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Sep 7, 2020 22:14
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sd cards for old consoles dont actually require modding, just an everdrive, you can get clones off aliexpress for little money
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food court bailiff posted:maybe you could try one of the other six platforms it was released for, many of which are still current gently caress the ports only symphony of the night-psx has the license to use i am the wind
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Sep 7, 2020 22:29
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but picking up a package in the mail entails going outside, even if for like 30 seconds
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bob dobbs is dead posted:emulation for dealios pre-2000 is basically plug and play That is the fuckin truth. I came home from Ye Olde Local Game Shoppe with a couple of PSX games thinking "I'll just run these on an emulator, I'm sure that's all very turnkey by now" and nope
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nintendo has a lot more continuity, a lot worse and thus more emulatable hardware, and the absolutely turbofuck insane peeps behind dolphin but still snes is a lot easier than n64 which in turn is way easier than gamecube
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I'm kicking myself over not buying a gamecube/GBA adapter and disk for $40 a few years ago. They are $200 now. Crazy. I'm assuming that is the best way to play GBA games on a tv?
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Everdrives and the like requires you to flash a rom onto the sd card via your computer tho right?
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm kicking myself over not buying a gamecube/GBA adapter and disk for $40 a few years ago. They are $200 now. Crazy. retron5 is honestly pretty nice for it
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm kicking myself over not buying a gamecube/GBA adapter and disk for $40 a few years ago. They are $200 now. Crazy. Truly an unfathomable missed opportunity cost, a valuation of almost $10 per year.
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Yeah can't believe they don't want to shell out 200 bucks for a gba emulator during covid, when everyone has an abundance of disposable income
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just download retroarch what's the big deal 
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Chomp8645 posted:Truly an unfathomable missed opportunity cost, a valuation of almost $10 per year. It's gone up 5x in 3 years. that's more than $10 a year. food court bailiff posted:retron5 is honestly pretty nice for it I had one that I never used and eventually sold. I heard so much bad about the controller I just never could rear end myself to use it.
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site posted:Everdrives and the like requires you to flash a rom onto the sd card via your computer tho right? the chinese clones i bought came with sd cards preloaded with all the roms i need for snes and nes anyway, i could just put them in my system and go i dunno how other peoples experience with retroarch has been but for me its never been plug and play, its always a lot of bullshit where i have to find a torrent to get the right bios, set up all kinds of poo poo and get a controller to work and mapped correctly, and i dunno if its my laptop or what but it just never runs great, frameskips and lag up the rear end for a lot of the systems
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Waltzing Along posted:It's gone up 5x in 3 years. that's more than $10 a year. I have one of those portable SNES things. I should sell it
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Waltzing Along posted:It's gone up 5x in 3 years. that's more than $10 a year. oh yeah the controllers are total garbage, I use snes controllers on mine
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food court bailiff posted:oh yeah the controllers are total garbage, I use snes controllers on mine Yeah, I'm seeing that that can be done. Seems doable. How does the R5 work? It uses hardware emulation?
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Shibawanko posted:the chinese clones i bought came with sd cards preloaded with all the roms i need for snes and nes anyway, i could just put them in my system and go Lol I bet Nintendo is pissed they can't do anything about that
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the real reason to not emulate though is that it just kind of sucks. even when it works perfectly, you're playing higan or whatever with a blurry rear end filter thats meant to look like a crt but totally doesn't, you'll still have lag issues, you're still just getting a poor man's version of what those games were like originally. its not like you're missing out on great art or anything but if you've decided that you want to play these games its worth getting some of the hardware for it because it just makes it a lot better
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I put my entire 401k in original SNES cartridges, I definitely won't wind up like that couple who bought tons of furbies as a college fund for their kids
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Shibawanko posted:the real reason to not emulate though is that it just kind of sucks. even when it works perfectly, you're playing higan or whatever with a blurry rear end filter thats meant to look like a crt but totally doesn't, you'll still have lag issues, you're still just getting a poor man's version of what those games were like originally. its not like you're missing out on great art or anything but if you've decided that you want to play these games its worth getting some of the hardware for it because it just makes it a lot better I mean, I guess I will refrain from generalizing to say that it's easy for everyone but once again I can't say I've encountered any of that. CRT post processing filters are disabled by default (and I would generally agree that they're not great to look at and don't use those myself), runahead to eliminate input lag is just an on/off switch (okay you can set it to 1,2, or 3 to see what works best for you) and you can even confirm it's working by pausing the game and testing it frame by frame if you're unsure. When it works it works and it's easy and it costs no money, very little time and effort, I can use it on my machine or on the tv with any controller I want, cleaned up graphics, and I have games from every system from arcade/mame, nes to ps1 all centralized in one program. If that's poor man's version means I can have all that well that's a weird use of the term but I'll take it site fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Shibawanko posted:the real reason to not emulate though is that it just kind of sucks. even when it works perfectly, you're playing higan or whatever with a blurry rear end filter thats meant to look like a crt but totally doesn't, you'll still have lag issues, you're still just getting a poor man's version of what those games were like originally. its not like you're missing out on great art or anything but if you've decided that you want to play these games its worth getting some of the hardware for it because it just makes it a lot better lmao what do you buy gold tipped audio cables too because you swear the fidelity increase can't be ignored? NESticle when I was a child ran games better than the NES could and its p weird to be messing with those scanline filters or whatever, those are only there as a joke, like, some of them just blur pixels together like an image trace in illustrator, come on. I have three big boxes full of every old console and annoying rear end physical game I've ever owned from NES to Wii and it's annoying as hell to lug around this poo poo every year I move. Even if I owned a TV I dont think it would work with any of this crap without hassle and to what end? im also definitely not trying to acquire some heavass CRT to relive some fantasy ideal of how stuff was "supposed" to look on crappier tech. and oh boy, wouldn't it be fun to ever have to hold an NES controller ever again, think of all these poor suckers playing NES games with a comfortable controller designed for humans instead of a sharp plastic brick designed for a crappy robot to use. all of those consoles would just be better emulated on my pc, i think most of em could even be done on phone these days. i really just want to sell them off since at least some of its got to be worth decent cash but that just always seems like a hassle itself. you seem like a nice old games pervert, how much would you give me for 3 boxes full of old games and old games hardware, cables and everything, even boxes for some crap? To sweeten the deal, you can keep my broken laptop thats also in the big plastic tub box. I never really knew what was wrong with it, it only works in safemode now but somewhere on that harddrive there is the wallet address or whatever to some tiny fraction of a bitcoin from back when it was a joke to spend a buck to buy one and I wanted to mine one up to buy a Ron Paul bitcoin check that I thought was funny.
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If I need to scratch my retro itch, I just fire up Metroid Prime on my Wii with a Gamecube controller on a 19" CRT.
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