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Until the new wording is presented in the Commons on wednesday it's all guesswork and briefings. In other news, it's Ireland but this has had me laughing all day https://twitter.com/eirebhoy/status/1302876966375305216
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happyhippy posted:1. Self preservation, and to angle it early that it's everything being the EU's fault instead. All along the UK has been trying to 'square the circle', an impossible set of demands that are contradictory. What would the situation be if we *did* keep the NI/ROI border open, and not do any checks on stuff crossing the Irish Sea? Would Ireland be forced to "close" the border by the terms of their EU treaty commitments?
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:05 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:What would the situation be if we *did* keep the NI/ROI border open, and not do any checks on stuff crossing the Irish Sea? Would Ireland be forced to "close" the border by the terms of their EU treaty commitments? Haven't a clue, can't find any articles online on that situation. But there must be some EU ruling that you can't just accept goods from non-EU countries, that's part of the point of the EU. If it were, Ireland would be the new Mos Eisley. Smuggling would be the new economy. Truckers would be telling tales of doing Kale runs in under 12 border checkpoints.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:What would the situation be if we *did* keep the NI/ROI border open, and not do any checks on stuff crossing the Irish Sea? Would Ireland be forced to "close" the border by the terms of their EU treaty commitments? Yes. Borders have two sides, and just because we choose not to check anything on our side, doesn't mean the Irish wouldn't. The government have already admitted the border controls won't be ready for January, regardless of wherther they're at the ROI/NI border or in the Irish Sea, so they're really forcing Ireland to take responsibility. The Irish would be within their rights to check not just stuff coming *into* Ireland (and thus potentially the rest of the EU) for quality, but also stuff being exported *out* of Ireland and into NI/rest of GB. This applies to all the other ports too, so Rotterdam and Calais will also be checking paperwork and goods being imported into the UK.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:29 |
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Remember thiscatdoesnotexist.com and the monstrosities it created? https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:49 |
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RockyB posted:Remember thiscatdoesnotexist.com and the monstrosities it created? Good lord most of those look so real. I think this one.... well. I’m not sure what I think. I don’t like it though.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:56 |
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Red Oktober posted:Good lord most of those look so real. A few of those - male and female - have that weird haircut, long on one side. I wonder where the neural thingy got that from? I didn't know Human League were MPs. Funny thing is you can guess which party. Smooth straight blonde hair on a female = tory without a doubt.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:59 |
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RockyB posted:Remember thiscatdoesnotexist.com and the monstrosities it created? gently caress off, I’ve definitely met some of these people when I worked at parliament.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 01:28 |
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Lady Demelza posted:Yes. Borders have two sides, and just because we choose not to check anything on our side, doesn't mean the Irish wouldn't. The government have already admitted the border controls won't be ready for January, regardless of wherther they're at the ROI/NI border or in the Irish Sea, so they're really forcing Ireland to take responsibility. The Irish would be within their rights to check not just stuff coming *into* Ireland (and thus potentially the rest of the EU) for quality, but also stuff being exported *out* of Ireland and into NI/rest of GB. I'm thinking more of the Good Friday Agreement commitment to keep the border open - checks, even if they're cursory "Is this milk or is it white lead paint?" glances at the border, are a breach of the GFA, which was the whole point of all of the finagling and chest-thumping over the last few years. I wonder if the Big Brains are thinking "Hmm, what if we made the Irish the bad guys breaking the treaty and not us?"
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm thinking more of the Good Friday Agreement commitment to keep the border open - checks, even if they're cursory "Is this milk or is it white lead paint?" glances at the border, are a breach of the GFA, which was the whole point of all of the finagling and chest-thumping over the last few years. I wonder if the Big Brains are thinking "Hmm, what if we made the Irish the bad guys breaking the treaty and not us?" This is 10000% the Tory plan right now. Just throw the entire pile of poo poo into the air and when it covers everyone, blame RoI for not handing out umbrellas.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 02:33 |
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 04:15 |
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The Joker: I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 06:11 |
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They're all very wrinkly.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:06 |
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These are my MPs for the shadow shadow cabinet its good technology, there's barely any errors and most of the time the glasses look normal even. https://thiscatdoesnotexist.com/ https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/ https://thisartworkdoesnotexist.com/ https://thisrentaldoesnotexist.com/
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:25 |
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justcola posted:https://thiscatdoesnotexist.com/ Don't forget https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:31 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:A few of those - male and female - have that weird haircut, long on one side. I wonder where the neural thingy got that from? I didn't know Human League were MPs. They're all very slightly not quite human, so they're Tories without a doubt.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:37 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Excluding fuel costs, how much do you reckon it costs to run a small car for a year? Very, very late to this but I just sold my old 2012 1.6 diesel Focus. It easily hit 50mpg and I’ve had 72 out of it, was £20 a year in tax and was pretty nippy as well. Total running costs for the last year I had it was approx £800 including insurance.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:54 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:A few of those - male and female - have that weird haircut, long on one side. I wonder where the neural thingy got that from? I didn't know Human League were MPs.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:55 |
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The exception that proves the rule!
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:02 |
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WhatEvil posted:Help keep centrist piss boiling: Apparently I’m blocked!
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:03 |
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teacup posted:can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland? Another huge problem is when goods checks and boarders are spoken about, there is no boarder between the Republic and Northern Ireland. It's the width of most of the country and runs through many people's farms. Trying to have a boarder is like the wall between Mexico and the US, but with fewer mountains. Also second, Boris has been constantly saying that enough technology can solve the problem. (Spoken like a man who doesn't in any way understand technology and probably calls scientists "boffins.") Not realising that if you put up cameras or any sort of gates they will immediately be burnt out by locals.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:05 |
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'Enough technology' probably means he fakes an attack against the UK by Ireland and then the entire NATO dogshit crew has to join in. You know he's considered it, because it does solve the border.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:19 |
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Personally I can't wait for Cummings to think the Internet of Things and blockchain can solve the border problem, without really understanding what that means. £50m to a Tory sponsor to half-arse it, another £10m to improve it before the project is cancelled and the government tries to use the civil service to manually check everything at the border with just an etch-a-sketch to keep track of imports
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:19 |
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justcola posted:Personally I can't wait for Cummings to think the Internet of Things and blockchain can solve the border problem, without really understanding what that means. £50m to a Tory sponsor to half-arse it, another £10m to improve it before the project is cancelled and the government tries to use the civil service to manually check everything at the border with just an etch-a-sketch to keep track of imports This is literally already happening
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:24 |
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justcola posted:Personally I can't wait for Cummings to think the Internet of Things and blockchain can solve the border problem, without really understanding what that means. £50m to a Tory sponsor to half-arse it, another £10m to improve it before the project is cancelled and the government tries to use the civil service to manually check everything at the border with just an etch-a-sketch to keep track of imports The Tories have realised that they no longer even have to half-arse it. They're literally just handing out millions to their mates under the guise of procurement with no expectations that anything will be done.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:25 |
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Guavanaut posted:'Enough technology' probably means he fakes an attack against the UK by Ireland and then the entire NATO dogshit crew has to join in. I mean, noted diplomat and Banshee, Priti Patel did think that the Irish should be starved into compliance. So maybe "peaceful invasion" is supposed to be a step up. Tory MP suggests using possible 'no-deal' food shortages to force Ireland to drop the backstop
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:30 |
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Guavanaut posted:'Enough technology' probably means he fakes an attack against the UK by Ireland and then the entire NATO dogshit crew has to join in. Always wondered if he was mixing up Ireland and Iceland with that no resistance bit lol no he just has liquid poo poo for brains
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:31 |
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The Question IRL posted:I mean, noted diplomat and Banshee, Priti Patel did think that the Irish should be starved into compliance. So maybe "peaceful invasion" is supposed to be a step up. God, she is evil.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:36 |
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Just start a war in Europe, peacefully like. I suppose it might end up getting the UK kicked out of NATO or splitting it if they balls it up badly enough.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:37 |
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:38 |
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Guavanaut posted:Just start a war in Europe, peacefully like. Operation Sealion II: The EU strikes back?
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:39 |
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justcola posted:https://thiscatdoesnotexist.com/ Hah, I hadn't come across the rental one. It combines my favourite things: laughing at rentals, and neural network recipes (https://aiweirdness.com/post/163878889437/try-these-neural-network-generated-recipes-at-your) I won't spam loads of screenshots but I've already had a property located inside an airport railway station, and one where the host appears to be a small child e: "Smeg provided"! Bobstar fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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thisrentaldoesnotexist: We put a bunch of rentals into an electronic thing and made a bunch of things that don't really exist. The London property market: That was our idea
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:43 |
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Roger Dicks MP Aberhampton and Barnney
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:13 |
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Taking the skin suit a bit too literally on that one.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:16 |
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The big brained centrists like no deal brexit now https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1303006536256675842?s=19
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:20 |
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https://twitter.com/jewdas/status/1303264524838068224?s=19
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:33 |
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Lol theyre all such blatant hypocrites but it doesn't matter because the only people who will call them out are twitter users called @socialistwoshi
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:38 |
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You can see where vanguardists get the idea from.
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# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:39 |
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Jose posted:The big brained centrists like no deal brexit now centrist based accelerationism in order to get a leader in who agrees with everything the government are doing anyway. Don't know if my brain is big enough for that kind of 4D chess. Chair chat: As I am working from home a lot more now, where is a good place to get a decent chair? A dining room chair with a cushion on it isn't that great - and I thought with all these businesses not using their offices if there was a good place to pick up second hand furniture that has coagulated years of slime all over (or maybe a new chair come to think of it) Also - is there a double-size chair or something I can use with two seats? My cat likes to sit next to me and feel this would save on sitting on the keyboard or directly behind me. e: the cat, not myself sitting on the keyboard
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