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GutBomb posted:Might be a dumb question but have you checked your windows power plan? If it’s set to high performance it won’t throttle down. Oh fucks sake this is probably what it is. Thanks I'm dumb. E: yep it was. Ty, system now Idles for 0.185w. VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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An interesting bit about Raymond Chen's next Xbox security presentation is that they're relying on the small feature size (14nm? 10nm?) for physical security. The smaller the feature size, the harder the cost of hardware probing. I can imagine for certain defense applications (drone security chip?), the smaller feature size is a requirement.
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https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1302989616463708162 Looks like the 8C CCD means AMDs SKUs get to be more dense. 1usmus apparently has samples and has been in talks with AMD, it looks like Octover 7 is the announcement/paper launch My stab at the stack TR 4990WX: 64C/128T, 256MB L3, $3499 TR 4980WX: 56C/112T, 256MB L3 (Perfect opportunity to pit core vs. core against Cascade Lake), $2999 TR 4970WX: 48C/96T, 256MB L3, $2499 TR 4950X: 32C/64T, 128MB L3, $1799 TR 4920X: 28C/56T, 128MB L3 (Again, to demonstrate core vs. core against Cascade Lake), $1399 TR 4900X: 24C/48T, 128MB L3, $999 R9 4870X: 16C/32T, 64MB L3, $699 R9 4850X: 14C/28T, 64MB L3, $549 R9 4820X: 12C/24T, 64MB L3, $449 R9 4800X: 10C/20T, 64MB L3, $349 R7 4700X: 8C/16T, 32MB L3, $299 R7 4700G: 8C/16T, 8MB L3, $249 R7 4700: 8C/16T, 16MB L3, $229 R5 4600X: 6C/12T, 32MB L3, $209 R5 4600G: 6C/12T, 8MB L3, $179 R5 4600: 6C/12T, 16MB L3, $149 R3 4400G: 4C/8T, 8MB L3, $129 R3 4300G: 4C/8T, 8MB L3, $99 Athlon 4000G: 4C/8T, 4MB L3, $49 Oh and yeah, AMD is getting into networking https://www.techpowerup.com/271876/amd-to-enter-network-hardware-market-develop-wifi-controller-products-with-mediatek, which in hindsight seems like an obvious next step. This would be for the consumer space though, not datacenter and AMD will have to develop their own poo poo over time (or leveraged buyout of something like Marvell because we clearly didn't learn our lesson last time with ATI). Best case scenario AMD has total in house networking solutions that are competitive in IMHO, 2023.
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Unified L3 cache, better IPC and no interCCX latency for 8C/16T parts should be the last piece of the puzzle for evicting Intel from the  space once and for all, no?
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EmpyreanFlux posted:https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1302989616463708162 I don't see the CCX going over 8C per CCX in logical design (2^x factors are too valuable for processor layout efficiency) but maybe they are throwing out some extra units to give them some yields for cutdowns. You have 8 units selected out of 10, so to speak. The networking play makes complete sense after the mellanox acquisition, AMD has to respond to NVIDIA, they need their own network adapter IP for unit to unit integration. That becomes a strategic integration with your processor design. Cheap and efficient, ideally. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:I don't see the CCX going over 8C per CCX in logical design (2^x factors are too valuable for processor layout efficiency) but maybe they are throwing out some extra units to give them some yields for cutdowns. You have 8 units selected out of 10, so to speak. No, 1usmus is not saying native 10C CCD, rather a 5+5 CCD config for an effective 10C CPU.
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Seamonster posted:Unified L3 cache, better IPC and no interCCX latency for 8C/16T parts should be the last piece of the puzzle for evicting Intel from the I'm sure Intel will come up with *some* kind of benchmark that shows they're still better at in games... Also, the only thing that I would want at this point is USB 4. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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EmpyreanFlux posted:No, 1usmus is not saying native 10C CCD, rather a 5+5 CCD config for an effective 10C CPU. oh, intredasting... I suppose with an 8C unified CCX you can really die-harvest any combination of cores on the CCX, can't you? there's not as much penalty for core vs core enablement. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 03:48
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Paul MaudDib posted:The networking play makes complete sense after the mellanox acquisition, AMD has to respond to NVIDIA, For HPC/datacenter I'd expect them to use whatever new version of IF they develop.
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Cheap bourbon and boredom got the better of me last night and I bought a Ryzen 9 3900X. How smoothbrained was that decision and should I return it and wait it out until October?
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Theophany posted:Cheap bourbon and boredom got the better of me last night and I bought a Ryzen 9 3900X. How smoothbrained was that decision and should I return it and wait it out until October? return it and buy another bottle of bourbon when the next release comes out?
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Theophany posted:Cheap bourbon and boredom got the better of me last night and I bought a Ryzen 9 3900X. How smoothbrained was that decision and should I return it and wait it out until October? I feel like we have zero idea what Zen 3 is going to do for performance per dollar, like not even to the level of the rumors leading to the RTX 3000 launch, which at least were mostly in the ballpark. The worst case is the 3900x will still be a baller CPU for years, but maybe the 4700x or whatever will perform the same for cheaper? I dunno 
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Theophany posted:Cheap bourbon and boredom got the better of me last night and I bought a Ryzen 9 3900X. How smoothbrained was that decision and should I return it and wait it out until October? Return it, lay off the bourbon until after Zen 3 comes out.
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Sep 8, 2020 13:12
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Advice noted - return the CPU, stick to clear spirits. Thank you!
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What is up with the delay on Zen3? We should have gotten more information by now? At least with Zen3 I can actually build my system and simply swap out my old video card for the 3080 if I get one.
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Kraftwerk posted:What is up with the delay on Zen3? We should have gotten more information by now? At least with Zen3 I can actually build my system and simply swap out my old video card for the 3080 if I get one. I mean they said end of 2020 earlier, and now it's going to be announced early October, so I don’t see the delay? Unless I just missed something. What there haven't been are significant leaks about hard specs or performance.
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Kraftwerk posted:What is up with the delay on Zen3? We should have gotten more information by now? At least with Zen3 I can actually build my system and simply swap out my old video card for the 3080 if I get one. That whole pandemic thing + probably a limited volume launch in Q4 to technically meet "Zen 3 this year" from AMD. EmpyreanFlux posted:https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1302989616463708162 Mm, if that was the stack, I'd look hard at the base / boost clocks and pick the highest of the 4900X/4920X/4950X. Today, I would 3970X and OC.
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What is the best program to control RT5700XT and Ryan fan speeds using a curve. my drat GPU in the software is like soft caped at 40% fanspeed max. Causing it to overheat.. I have heatphones. wtf is fan speed to me.
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Balsa posted:What is the best program to control RT5700XT and Ryan fan speeds using a curve. my drat GPU in the software is like soft caped at 40% fanspeed max. Causing it to overheat.. In the Radeon Driver you can adjust the curves and it is limited to like 40% by default. It's in the same section as overclocking just set stuff to manual and it should pop up.
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I've tried it, but every update it freaking resets my curves 
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Balsa posted:What is the best program to control RT5700XT and Ryan fan speeds using a curve. my drat GPU in the software is like soft caped at 40% fanspeed max. Causing it to overheat.. as pixaal said, but also if your card is capped at 40% that means it's an original blower model. if it is overheating at 40% -- which is like 2400 rpm! -- your case ambient is probably very warm and you should look at better overall case ventilation. controlling the CPU fan curves is best done in your mobo bios, but the mobo companies also make software that can change fan speeds inside windows. check the support webpage for your mobo. (it's best with the bios because many of these software packages suck and are stupid resource hogs.) edit: Balsa posted:I've tried it, but every update it freaking resets my curves the drivers reset those settings not just from updates, but even just from having an unexpected shutdown use the "save profile" (in the 3-dot menu) to save your curve so it's at least fast to restore. Klyith fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Klyith posted:as pixaal said, but also if your card is capped at 40% that means it's an original blower model. if it is overheating at 40% -- which is like 2400 rpm! -- your case ambient is probably very warm and you should look at better overall case ventilation. Mine is a Trifan Gigabyte card, a BIOS update to the card did help in the early days. it doesn't overheat as much. but I find undervolting (-50) the crap out of it really does help and doesn't impact frames too much.
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sean10mm posted:I feel like we have zero idea what Zen 3 is going to do for performance per dollar, like not even to the level of the rumors leading to the RTX 3000 launch, which at least were mostly in the ballpark. Literally every tech blogger with "leaks" and "inside sources" about Zen 2 was proven to be full of poo poo. We didn't know anything about Zen 2 until Mama Su fed it to us straight from her beak, and it looks like Zen 3 will be the same.
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GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:Literally every tech blogger with "leaks" and "inside sources" about Zen 2 was proven to be full of poo poo. We didn't know anything about Zen 2 until Mama Su fed it to us straight from her beak, and it looks like Zen 3 will be the same. Those same tech bloggers with "leaks" about RDNA/Navi were also completely wrong about it, so at this point I won't trust any source on anything AMD. Zen 3 will probably be great! But I am going to wait for real reviews.
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I'm impressed at how well AMD has been keeping secrets.
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taqueso posted:I'm impressed at how well AMD has been keeping secrets.
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FuturePastNow posted:Those same tech bloggers with "leaks" about RDNA/Navi were also completely wrong about it, so at this point I won't trust any source on anything AMD. Zen 3 will probably be great! But I am going to wait for real reviews. Yeah, I'm hoping it's good and it's a buyable product the same time the RTX 3070 is. *Monkey's paw curls thumb, index finger, ring finger and pinkie at once*
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Speaking of good but probably not purchasable products https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HqJeLNepX0 https://www.asrockind.com/4X4%20BOX-4800U https://www.asrockind.com/4X4%20BOX-4500U https://www.asrockind.com/4X4%20BOX-4300U I think that's the first Renoir NUC like release?
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Turns out someone released a "patch" that disables the AMD Ryzen Master Virtualization check: https://github.com/klauspost/ryzen-master-vbs-patch
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"It does NOT fix what might be the cause of this being disabled." Does anyone have any clue what that cause might be? Even just a guess?
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BrainDance posted:"It does NOT fix what might be the cause of this being disabled." Nobody knows right now. I've been searching for weeks to no end.
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funroll loops posted:Is it expected that AMD will release new mobo chipsets along with Zen 3? Maybe this time is different, but they always have so far.
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funroll loops posted:Is it expected that AMD will release new mobo chipsets along with Zen 3? Somebody else may correct me, but I kind of thought they had X570 and B550 planned as the last AM4 chipsets. It's possible they will release more AM4 chipsets (they apparently haven't ruled it out) at some point, but I am not aware of any actual plans to do so.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Somebody else may correct me, but I kind of thought they had X570 and B550 planned as the last AM4 chipsets. It's possible they will release more AM4 chipsets (they apparently haven't ruled it out) at some point, but I am not aware of any actual plans to do so. There's been a rumored X590 chipset. I don't know what it would actually do though.
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Part of me hopes for a comedy option board that can run either DDR4 or DDR5 but not both at once, like in the transition to DDR2 days.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Part of me hopes for a comedy option board that can run either DDR4 or DDR5 but not both at once, like in the transition to DDR2 days. IIRC DDR5 is keyed differently from DDR4, so you can't have a slot that works for both
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gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC DDR5 is keyed differently from DDR4, so you can't have a slot that works for both There were motherboards that had physical slots for both, i.e 2x DDR1 and 2x DDR2
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gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC DDR5 is keyed differently from DDR4, so you can't have a slot that works for both No, I mean a board with different slots for different types of memory. I played with a couple of boards that came out in a transitional period and had slots for DDR and DDR2, like 2 of each, and could run one or the other. Looks like this was one of them: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-8I915P-Duo-Pro-A-rev-10#ov
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