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the Orb of Zot posted:Sprouting Thirnax saw play, but that was in Alara block and well before creature powercreep hit the levels we see today. Thrinax also happened to be a really good BBE cascade hit.
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Thread already decided the 2G "do all the Uro stuff" sorcery was bad, so if they cast Uro once then get hit w this it seems like a good bargain
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Sep 8, 2020 16:30
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LifeLynx posted:
It's now the best one-mana Warrior in the format. Exciting news for the Party deck!
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Sep 8, 2020 16:33
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evilweasel posted:effectively a 4/4 for 3 is a decent-ish baseline Yeah I'm hoping there's a good place for it. It's not bad at all, but removal and sweepers are so good and common now that I'm dubious about how much work it can really do. LifeLynx posted:
Given that seemingly all the new equipment in this set is cheap and has the "attach to target creature" rider I think it has some legs in the right deck. It's a great one drop for Winota decks if nothing else.
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Sep 8, 2020 16:43
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LifeLynx posted:
This is WAY worse than Mogg Fanatic. It's a 1 drop that has to already have an equipment in play to get haste so it's pretty meh on T1.
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Fireblade Charger is fine on its own, really really good with any way to pump power, and bonkers if the equipment deck is real, which it might very well be since fervent champion is still around too (it never is). There's a +1/+1 counter theme in the set. Putting even a single counter on this thing makes it absurd. Nearly any equipment with equip 1 makes it absurd. Rimrock Knight makes it absurd. This card is good as hell
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Sep 8, 2020 16:48
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LifeLynx posted:
Goblin Arsonist has been in standard forever and doesn't see play
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Sep 8, 2020 17:01
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Shrecknet posted:Thread already decided the 2G "do all the Uro stuff" sorcery was bad, so if they cast Uro once then get hit w this it seems like a good bargain I think you’re missing about half of Uro’s text
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Sep 8, 2020 17:13
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Shrecknet posted:Thread already decided the 2G "do all the Uro stuff" sorcery was bad, so if they cast Uro once then get hit w this it seems like a good bargain even if they are guaranteed to have this in their hand, 2g "do all the uro stuff" sorcery is a lot worse than "2g do all the uro stuff, then force the opponent to spend five mana and a card or bad things happen to them"
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Sep 8, 2020 17:17
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Lone Goat posted:Goblin Arsonist has been in standard forever and doesn't see play Arsonist doesn't have the upside. There's clearly a RW or RW/x equipment deck being seeded in this set. It doesn't take much to push a one drop from unplayable to very good. I'm not saying it will be the next Thraben Inspector, but one drops are among the hardest to predict for constructed.
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Sep 8, 2020 17:22
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/StarCityGames/status/1303348540702429185 Nevermind this one is the best one lmao
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Sep 8, 2020 17:24
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LifeLynx posted:
I could see swinging in with it, hitting it with a pump spell, doing that damage, then sacrificing it for a sneaky win if life was low enough.
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 I was so excited til I saw this ETBs tapped. I don't think it would've been broken if it didn't, at least for this set. Maybe it needs to be tapped for when D&D set comes.  This is good.  I think this is probably statted too low, but it is a flying threat that gets decent value on ETB.
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Sampatrick posted:Nevermind this one is the best one lmao This one isn't the best. The White one is still the best for Standard and the Green one is the most easily slotted into an existing deck. You need to build your deck in a very specific way for this to be a good effect. You need to spend 5 mana to get a worse Call of the Death Dweller. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 17:31
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
Eh, 8 cards is a lot of cards. This is a 1/3 flyer way too often.
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Framboise posted:I could see swinging in with it, hitting it with a pump spell, doing that damage, then sacrificing it for a sneaky win if life was low enough. In magical christmasland, Groundswell + Berserk is 20 on its own.
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Sickening posted:Eh, 8 cards is a lot of cards. This is a 1/3 flyer way too often. A 1/3 with Flash for 2 is plenty serviceable as a wall against aggro, and the whole gimmick of rogues being "incidentally mill your opponent" would make it pretty straightforward to turn on by turn 3 or 4. Well, it would be pretty easy to turn on, if not for half the decks you're facing being able to take cards back out of their graveyard, turning your cards off while getting a big advantage in the process. Oh well, maybe next rotation.
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evilweasel posted:even if they are guaranteed to have this in their hand, 2g "do all the uro stuff" sorcery is a lot worse than "2g do all the uro stuff, then force the opponent to spend five mana and a card or bad things happen to them" I am assuming you also hit their innkeeper, merfolk, lovestruck beast and a human token
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Shrecknet posted:I am assuming you also hit their innkeeper, merfolk, lovestruck beast and a human token Innkeeper has drawn them what, two cards out of this deal? IDK dawg, seems like they can just refill the board from there pretty alright.
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Sickening posted:Eh, 8 cards is a lot of cards. This is a 1/3 flyer way too often. They're trying to encourage a Rogue deck and this will fit in nicely - with Thieves' Guild Enforcer it'll mill eight by turn three. Rogues also have some synergy with the Wizards who mill, although so far I haven't seen a good Rogue that cares about party size. The problem, of course, is that enabling an opponent's Uro is really bad. I'm so excited to build a Party deck. Right now I'm picturing an Abzan deck with a ton of one-drops that can play Coveted Prize on turn three to find a singleton Winota. A singleton Legion Angel can be the backup plan for Coveted Prize if Winota won't be worthwhile.
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Shrecknet posted:I am assuming you also hit their innkeeper, merfolk, lovestruck beast and a human token the point being, that comparing uro after it gets hit by a very specific hate spell to a spell that does the same thing, but doesn't require the opponent to have that specific hate spell, is...well, not a good comparison yes, a board wipe can be quite good in the right situation, nobody's arguing that.
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Chamale posted:They're trying to encourage a Rogue deck and this will fit in nicely - with Thieves' Guild Enforcer it'll mill eight by turn three. Rogues also have some synergy with the Wizards who mill, although so far I haven't seen a good Rogue that cares about party size. The problem, of course, is that enabling an opponent's Uro is really bad. I am sure rogue will be a draft archtype, but I haven't seen anything super constructed playable yet.
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the problem with rogue mill in constructed is that it’s still a creature deck attacking oppo’s life total except they start with 60 life
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the problem with rogue mill in constructed is that it’s still a creature deck attacking oppo’s life total except they start with 60 life These rogues seem to be trying to win with combat. As long as an opponent has eight cards in their graveyard, the Rogue deck gets a 1-mana 3/2 deathtouch, this two-mana lord, and a three-mana 5/3 with Menace. It would be a neat deck if Escape cards didn't ruin its gameplan; too bad Block Constructed doesn't exist anymore, that format always had quirky decks.
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mcmagic posted:This one isn't the best. The White one is still the best for Standard and the Green one is the most easily slotted into an existing deck. You need to build your deck in a very specific way for this to be a good effect. You need to spend 5 mana to get a worse Call of the Death Dweller. You don't need to build your deck in any particular way, you just put it in your deck as a land and sometimes you use it as a Living Death.
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Sep 8, 2020 18:26
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I wonder if Not Harry Potter, Really will have Proliferate.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the problem with rogue mill in constructed is that it’s still a creature deck attacking oppo’s life total except they start with 60 life The UB rogues decks win with combat damage, not mill. At least, they shouldn't win with mill--that should be incidental. Last night I played against a UB deck with vantress gargoyle and other "GY matters" cards like drown in the loch and Thieves' Guild Enforcer, except I was playing sultai ramp and uro single handedly destroyed that deck no contest. So the problem with rogue mill in this meta is that uro exists--not that you start at 60 life (or more with Yorion). AlphaKeny1 fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Sep 8, 2020 |
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Sep 8, 2020 18:32
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 Big dumb landfall dude but at least gets some value  This is pretty cool. Hard to race (for a 2 drop) and late game 2 for 1 reanimate.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
Just a reminder that this lets you play the Land side of your flip spells out of the graveyard.
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That card seems 2 Mana too expensive to see play The double landfall guy
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Kurieg posted:Just a reminder that this lets you play the Land side of your flip spells out of the graveyard. I doubt it. When they're in the graveyard they have only the front face.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:I doubt it. When they're in the graveyard they have only the front face. https://twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1301553610208112640?s=20
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
Now this is my poo poo.
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 This is older but worth highlighting again I think. It's cool that it double ramps and then isn't dead late. Scute Swarm and Felidar Retreat go wide with landfall.
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Sep 8, 2020 18:40
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
Nice two-drop for vampires, not sure what I'd take out for it though.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
This is REALLY good.
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Sep 8, 2020 18:42
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Cheap kicker cratures seem like they'll be fun with lurrus.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:
The order of it is also very nice for Swarm and Retreat Edit: No it's not lol
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Justin_Brett posted:Nice two-drop for vampires, not sure what I'd take out for it though. I'd say Dusk Legion Zealot if you still have them, then Id experiment replacing Gifted Atherborn, see if it's better than being defensive. Late game getting a Champion of Dusk back seems great.
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little munchkin posted:I thought it seemed decent because twitter previews crop out the mana cost, but lol at your uro "answer" costing 5 mana and not working until uro has drawn you at least one card 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 they make the card that *exiles* Time Raveler , the Uro in play, and the Uro in the graveyard, all at the same time, at once, but apparently it needed to give blowjobs and improve credit scores too!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
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