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TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.
The key is to just have 6± months of food in and rotate constantly, bit of a pain admittedly...also some vegan MREs for when poo poo really hits the fan and I need to camp out at Epping.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Does this mean we are now a Rogue State?

Axis of Pfeffle

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

So when is the best time to begin stockpiling? I'm thinking the end of October to maximise time before things spoil but before Christmas hoarding begins. Once the Christmas shoppers have stripped everything it'll be too late before Brexit hits, and at this point I think that the EU is going to strictly enforce things at the borders on a basis of 'you made your bed, now lie in it' at the stroke of midnight.

As long as you're not buying the kind of things people go wild for at christmas, you're fine right up til Christmas Eve. People will be fighting over the turkey and cranberry sauce, but things like tinned soups and pasta sauces etc will be fine going by most years because people are busy buying all the fancier stuff they want to have in for the holidays.

MonkeyLibFront
Feb 26, 2003
Where's the cake?

SpicePro posted:

The key is to just have 6± months of food in and rotate constantly, bit of a pain admittedly...also some vegan MREs for when poo poo really hits the fan and I need to camp out at Epping.

Might start re directing rations to sell on during the upcoming fall of society.

GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.
Seems the new counter argument from all the KBF knobbers is that the reason cases have shot up dramatically is because the COVID-19 test also reports a positive result if you have the common cold.

Of course, no amount of fact check links or articles disproving this can change their minds.

Bunch of loving cunts.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Facebook trackers must have caught the Arabic chat, because I just got this ad and am now presumably on a list for antisemitism.


GazChap posted:

Seems the new counter argument from all the KBF knobbers is that the reason cases have shot up dramatically is because the COVID-19 test also reports a positive result if you have the common cold.

Of course, no amount of fact check links or articles disproving this can change their minds.
Do they bring any sources for this? I assume they're all Toby Young lockdownskeptic grade.

GazChap
Dec 4, 2004

I'm hungry. Feed me.

Guavanaut posted:

Do they bring any sources for this? I assume they're all Toby Young lockdownskeptic grade.
Not that I’ve seen, and I haven’t asked because it was so easy to disprove it was comical.

Supposedly antibody tests can return positive for common colds, but the PCR viral testing definitely cannot and it’s these PCR tests specifically that the KBF idiots are talking about.

The idea that experts in epidemiology would not consider the prospect of false positives caused by what is probably the most common virus known to man is absurd at best, but they run with it anyway of course.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Guavanaut posted:

Facebook trackers must have caught the Arabic chat, because I just got this ad and am now presumably on a list for antisemitism.


Do they bring any sources for this? I assume they're all Toby Young lockdownskeptic grade.

A couple of years ago, I got inundated with FB ads for real estate in the West Bank 'settlements'. I think the algorithm didn't quite understand my interest.
But yeah, I often find the ads I get all over the place seem related to discussions here and elsewhere.
Quite a lot of friends say that they get ads relevant to things they have been talking about offline, in their sitting room or whatever, and never referred to online, and with all their settings on their phones being 'not listening'. I don't believe that as much as I don't believe denials by tv companies that the sound volume of ads is greater than the sound volume of programmes (because it patently is because I have to frantically reach for the volume control when the ads come on they are so loud.)

TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

A couple of years ago, I got inundated with FB ads for real estate in the West Bank 'settlements'. I think the algorithm didn't quite understand my interest.
But yeah, I often find the ads I get all over the place seem related to discussions here and elsewhere.
Quite a lot of friends say that they get ads relevant to things they have been talking about offline, in their sitting room or whatever, and never referred to online, and with all their settings on their phones being 'not listening'. I don't believe that as much as I don't believe denials by tv companies that the sound volume of ads is greater than the sound volume of programmes (because it patently is because I have to frantically reach for the volume control when the ads come on they are so loud.)

When it comes to adverts it's a case of dynamic range compression, so while you're entirely right it's not like they are actually turning the volume up on your TV...this is somewhat related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

The Loudness wars sure have ruined a lot of good music...and also The RHCP!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

So when is the best time to begin stockpiling? I'm thinking the end of October to maximise time before things spoil but before Christmas hoarding begins. Once the Christmas shoppers have stripped everything it'll be too late before Brexit hits, and at this point I think that the EU is going to strictly enforce things at the borders on a basis of 'you made your bed, now lie in it' at the stroke of midnight.

Get fat now so you can lose it all then

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Given the long life of most tinned stuff, just throw a few cans in whenever you shop. My golden rule for stockpiling is stuff that can be eaten straight from the can with no heating and no hydration (even if it tastes like poo poo maybe I'll keep the co-op spaghetti rings after all. No way I'll be eating those unless it's that or trying to catch a pigeon outside). Also, for me, gnothe seaton and all that, no NICE food such as canned custard or canned rice pud because that way the madness of going out in a mammoth tinned custard binge lies. (lesson learned from my Y2K stockpile. 6 months worth of canned custard lasted about 3 days).

that pasta e ceci recipe someone posted is looking better and better. also i bought the aldi speyside :w00t: now to mix it with that all-important schweppes lemonade

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Jose posted:

Get fat now so you can lose it all then

You made this suggestion last time and I think COVID 19 has demonstrated that all that does is make you more vulnerable to other predators.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Sir Faceman once again getting mad at the Tories for not Torying hard enough, while dodging an opportunity to be legally forensic, and angering remainers

(from Graun liveblog)

quote:

Sky News has just broadcast a fascinating interview with Sir Keir Starmer in which Starmer effectively started criticising Boris Johnson for failing to deliver the Brexit deal he promised. He also made it clear (not for the first time, but nevertheless quite definitively) that he is not interested in trying to rejoin the EU. Labour remainers may hate it, but probably not as much as CCHQ. As an exercise in nimble political repositioning, it was extremely accomplished.

Sky’s political editor, Beth Rigby, repeatedly asked him if he was worried about the government breaking the law, and if Labour would be aligned with Tory rebels to defeat it over its plans to legislate to give it the power to overrule the withdrawal agreement. But Starmer did not want to engage with this issue at all, and instead he kept stressing how important it was for the government to actually get a trade deal with the EU. He said:

Getting a deal is in the national interest. That is what the public want. That is what they were promised. The outstanding issues are not difficult. They can be resolved. Let’s get the deal, let’s move on and focus on the job in hand, which is dealing with this pandemic ...

What the nation wants is a deal that is in the national interest and everything should be focused on that. Let’s not reopen old arguments that the public think are long settled, and that’s what the government is doing.

When asked what his position was on Brexit, and if he now thought it was a good idea, Starmer replied:

We have left the EU, the divide between leave and remain is over. We need a deal ... I don’t think there’s a case for reopening the issue of membership of the EU. We have left ...

The prime minister won the election. It was a devastating election for the Labour party. [Boris Johnson] won by promising he would get a good deal. So what I’ve said is, here’s the space, get that good deal, deliver on your promise.

As Sky’s Sam Coates later said, it was almost as if Starmer were saying “get Brexit done” (Johnson’s successful 2019 general election slogan). Normally Starmer, a former head of the Crown Prosecution Service, would be the first to speak up for the importance of upholding the rule of law. But he has a good eye for a political elephant trap, and the Tories would like nothing more than being able to depict him as someone siding with Brussels on this issue (the withdrawal agreement) against what they would claim as the national interest.

Rather than getting sucked back into a remain/leave argument (which Labour lost badly in 2019), Starmer is instead seeking to frame this as a deal/no deal argument, with Johnson failing on competence and delivery if the UK-EU trade talks falter.

What is the point of this?

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Bobstar posted:

Sir Faceman once again getting mad at the Tories for not Torying hard enough, while dodging an opportunity to be legally forensic, and angering remainers

(from Graun liveblog)


What is the point of this?

He's a bad rightwing politician, which is exactly the sort of person the ruling class want running the Labour Party.

PMQs tomorrow might be worth watching for once actually because it'll really show what, if anything, Starmer cares about and is capable of.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
My dad is insistent that Boris being poo poo at pmqs matters because it'll make Tory MPs want rid of him lol

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Bobstar posted:

Sir Faceman once again getting mad at the Tories for not Torying hard enough, while dodging an opportunity to be legally forensic, and angering remainers

(from Graun liveblog)


What is the point of this?

The guardian is so good at that 'oh ho ho, the politician is doing the opposite of what he ostensibly stands for, what amazing politics! So much politics! Wow!' that is has to be a psy op. The feeling of impotent rage it generates, that this is the best we can hope for is too on point.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Bobstar posted:

Labour remainers may hate it, but probably not as much as CCHQ. 
It starts with a G

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

namesake posted:

He's a bad rightwing politician, which is exactly the sort of person the ruling class want running the Labour Party.

PMQs tomorrow might be worth watching for once actually because it'll really show what, if anything, Starmer cares about and is capable of.

https://twitter.com/DanFinn95/status/1303387431736049664?s=19

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

*labour voters nodding*

yes, yes, he is only pretending to be a racist Tory for votes. And I also heard he was forensic in PMQ's. This one's in the bag.


I'm curious what those still in the party think.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

justcola posted:

I'm curious what those still in the party think.

I think he's a oval office

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

I think the Labour strategy is to try and get Brexit over with as quickly as possible, because there's basically no way Starmer can look anything other than the ineffectual slime he is whilst Boris is off 'negotiating our future' and 'getting Britain back' or whatever the nonsense is currently. Once Brexit is done he can start attacking Boris for all the poo poo that's to come.

Or, you know, not.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Fucks sake just realised they stopped making Ricicles back in 2017. I hate 2020 :mad:

yes I know I can just add sugar to rice Krispies but it's not the same

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Convex posted:

Fucks sake just realised they stopped making Ricicles back in 2017. I hate 2020 :mad:

yes I know I can just add sugar to rice Krispies but it's not the same

What?! No wonder I couldn't find them anywhere! 2020 is even punishing me with things from the past.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Convex posted:

Fucks sake just realised they stopped making Ricicles back in 2017. I hate 2020 :mad:

yes I know I can just add sugar to rice Krispies but it's not the same

Phew, just checked, they still make Weetos. I'm sorted if I feel like a nostalgic childhood cereal trip.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
The Lib Dems and Labour both coming out against campaigning to rejoin the EU in the same week smacks of trying to get the Tories to own it. No remoaner wreckers hiding around every corner, no naysayers who just don't believe hard enough. They are washing their hands of it. Whether Britain backs down in the EU negotiations or not, the Tories will have to really stretch to pin any negative consequences on opposition politicians.

And it doesn't matter about disappointing remainers/rejoiners, it's not like there's going to be an election any time soon. Possibly a civil war/violent uprising, but not an election.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Jose posted:

Get fat now so you can lose it all then

advocating self harm is against the forums rules no?
fatties gonna die of covid

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Lady Demelza posted:

And it doesn't matter about disappointing remainers/rejoiners, it's not like there's going to be an election any time soon. Possibly a civil war/violent uprising, but not an election.
Ed Davey with a knife duct taped to a broom handle yelling "only Lib Dems can win here!"

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

justcola posted:

*labour voters nodding*

yes, yes, he is only pretending to be a racist Tory for votes. And I also heard he was forensic in PMQ's. This one's in the bag.


I'm curious what those still in the party think.

I think he is beating the Tories with their own slogan...

'After the 2016 referendum, the rational course of action for the British left would have been to embrace Brexit as a decisive opportunity to escape the neoliberal straightjacket [sic] of the European Union, reforming the British economy in the interests of workers and the poor. Leave could potentially open the door to nationalization of key resources, public banking, a transformative industrial policy, redistribution of income and wealth, and the lifting of austerity, all of which are required radically to restructure the British economy. Leave would also offer the opportunity to renew democracy and restrengthen popular and national sovereignty, in line with the popular demands expressed in the referendum.

These policies are impossible to achieve within the EU single market with the required degree of socialist radicalism. That is precisely the meaning and the promise of Lexit. Unfortunately, the bulk of the British left, including the bulk of the Labour Party, has failed to move in that direction, becoming strongly attached to “Remain and Reform.”'

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/07/labour-brexit-remain-and-reform-uk

e. what Lady Demelza said

Breath Ray fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Sep 8, 2020

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Lady Demelza posted:

The Lib Dems and Labour both coming out against campaigning to rejoin the EU in the same week smacks of trying to get the Tories to own it. No remoaner wreckers hiding around every corner, no naysayers who just don't believe hard enough. They are washing their hands of it. Whether Britain backs down in the EU negotiations or not, the Tories will have to really stretch to pin any negative consequences on opposition politicians.

And it doesn't matter about disappointing remainers/rejoiners, it's not like there's going to be an election any time soon. Possibly a civil war/violent uprising, but not an election.

Yup, the Tories having complete bipartisan acceptance of their approach is definitely going to be the thing that destroys them.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
imagine the screeching from the FBPEs if Corbyn had come out and said "no we're not going to rejoin Europe, move the gently caress on"

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Cerv posted:

advocating self harm is against the forums rules no?
fatties gonna die of covid

I'm not talking obese here

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Cerv posted:

advocating self harm is against the forums rules no?
fatties gonna die of covid

gently caress right off you absolute oval office

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

justcola posted:

I'm curious what those still in the party think.

He's just as poo poo as I thought he'd be. I'm in the party to vote for better candidates (while that remains an option).

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1265375154055544832/photo/1

Huh, so they did have the same idea as I did of testing blood donors for covid antibodies to give a baseline picture of the infection rate. Slightly baffled as to why they haven't continued it on past Week 22 (end of May) or if they have why they're not published the numbers.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Lady Demelza posted:

And it doesn't matter about disappointing remainers/rejoiners, it's not like there's going to be an election any time soon. Possibly a civil war/violent uprising, but not an election.

Lol as if they wouldn't just Operation Condor all the undesirables before it came to that

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Lets not do the c-spam thing where we pessimistically just give up on any possible way things could go from here. It doesn't help. Assuming the worst never actually helps anyone cope better.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
lmao, Gove is an absolute weasel:

https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1303413315197165570?s=21

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Regarde Aduck posted:

Lets not do the c-spam thing where we pessimistically just give up on any possible way things could go from here. It doesn't help. Assuming the worst never actually helps anyone cope better.

Yeah I for one am gonna improve my life by getting super into starmer

There's some really weird fascist starmer gifs on discord for some reason that seem to be official.

Someone can probably find them, he says "they said we couldn't build a country for heroes" or something and walks into a beam of light

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Convex posted:

Fucks sake just realised they stopped making Ricicles back in 2017. I hate 2020 :mad:

yes I know I can just add sugar to rice Krispies but it's not the same

White chocolate Cocopops are your friend.

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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...


I read that Twitter post as "Gove worries about Ultron."

Which makes sense. I too am afraid of a screaming Robot that wants to hate gently caress organics to death. That would even cover fish people like Gove.



https://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/10/ultron-return-splash-page-110477.png

*Ultron, about to pull the "Do Brexit switch" The opposite of Jeremy Corbyn's "Stop Brexit button".*

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