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mutata
Mar 1, 2003

I need a thing for mixing self leveler/concrete. Multiple bags per project. I had a hammer drill from harbor freight but it smoked out on just 15lbs of powder. I'm super cheap. Should I just try the Bauer mixer drill for $60 (the defacto upgrade from my chicago electric hammer drill, I guess) or is there a better tool out there? I have Ryobi and Black+Decker batteries already as well.

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McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

OSU_Matthew posted:

Pics or it didn’t happen

Ask and ye shall receive



It's this link here but I bought it in 2018. I've added a bit to it since then, as there's a good few spare drawers in the set. 115pc tap and die set, a full drawer of joinery and woodworking bits, some portable lighting etc.

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

Also that big central drawer is entirely filled with various clamps

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Jenkl posted:

Any tips on a decent budget toolbelt?

I use just a cheapo tool belt from Home Depot with a simple pouch on one side and a magnetic hammer holster on the other. All I ever use mine for is when I'm up high working on framing or whatever, so I need something that can hold nails, screws, a hammer, a few misc tools like pencil, speed square, tape measure, and torpedo level. My drill and impact driver can hang on the tool belt as they have hooks on them.

Works great and doesn't weigh a ton or get caught on things.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MagnoGrip-Pro-Magnetic-Hammer-Holster-Platinum-002-146/203433350
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Left-Hand-Nail-and-Tool-Pouch-42246/203426455

SpartanIvy fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Sep 7, 2020

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Jenkl posted:

Any tips on a decent budget toolbelt?

So, the thing I discovered when I bought my first one is that the belt is sort of the least important (and certainly least expensive) part; the important parts are the things you hang off it, and they're all sold separately in a billion different forms to suit whatever your task is.

This is why budget belts tend to come with pouches etc and more expensive ones don't, because for "my first belt" you're really buying a belt set, like you might buy a socket set and then later buy more sockets. Really the only difference between a "tool belt" and a regular leather belt is padding and comfort.

To that end I started with this budget tool belt, which at the time came with some similarly low quality (but adequate) pouches:
https://www.toolstation.com/heavy-duty-belt/p47209

I later upgraded to this makita belt which is quite comfortable:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Z55NXA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and this pouch which I have gotten lots of use out of
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0046LYMSK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I could do with picking up a few more specialised ones.

A lot of mid/high range tools also come with their own pouches/holsters, like drills etc, usually of low quality but presumably usable.

My advice would be to not start out with high quality pouches, since you may decide you'd prefer a different configuration, and buy the cheapest pouches you can find, try them, and then buy good stuff that fits your style. Buying a decent quality belt up front wouldn't be the worst since you'll keep using it with different pouches, but buying a dirt cheap one can avoid an unnecessary outlay if you decide you don't like toolbelts at all.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

OSU_Matthew posted:

Ah bummer, I just skipped through the video... I thought it was like one of the complete snappy sets for remote sites and stuff. 3k of HF tools won’t be perfect, but it’s still enough to do a hell of a lot of stuff.

I’d just love to have a full chest with that kind of everything-has-a-slot organization. My current system is slowly sedimenting underneath about two feet in my workbench

I donno maybe there is some purpose for all of those sockets and wrenches or whatever in the 1001 set. Its clearly designed as a auto-mechanics tool set so I guess I can't really complain that its missing a lot of good wood working tools. :shrug:

It was the tap and die set that really did it for me. I recently bought one so that I could modify a cross-sliding vise and the $50 set I got was quite complete, with taps and dies for tons of sizes of rod and hole. The set that comes with that "1001 tools" is tiny, I think I saw 4 sizes there. You would think for £3,000 they could include at minimum the standard set.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Value of the set aside, the main thing that got me was the idea that I'd impulse buy something for three grand during checkout.

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!
Thanks everyone for the tool belt tips. I think Ive got an idea of where to go from here.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



mutata posted:

I need a thing for mixing self leveler/concrete. Multiple bags per project. I had a hammer drill from harbor freight but it smoked out on just 15lbs of powder. I'm super cheap. Should I just try the Bauer mixer drill for $60 (the defacto upgrade from my chicago electric hammer drill, I guess) or is there a better tool out there? I have Ryobi and Black+Decker batteries already as well.

Get a cheap mixer, yeah. A hammer drill was never intended for mixing concrete, only busting it up.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Don’t use a battery‐powered drill for mixing concrete if you can help it.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Use a bit brace, put your back into it!

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Platystemon posted:

Don’t use a battery‐powered drill for mixing concrete if you can help it.

The Harbor Freight one was corded, heh. I thought it'd be tougher! I'll entertain a mixer, especially for some future projects. A friend has a Ryobi corded hammer drill I could probably borrow for the short term, as long as I don't try to mix huge amounts at a time.

Thanks, all!

mutata fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 7, 2020

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



*sigh* Guess I’ll crosspost this, too...

I. M. Gei posted:

I need a battery sprayer. It doesn’t have to be fancy, but I will be spraying about 20 trees with 2 or 3 or 4 kinds of pesticide/fungicide, so it’s gotta be able to stand up to that at least. I’d also like to not have to recharge the battery too many times, although a better battery might push things outside of my price range.

Are there any particular sprayers y’all recommend?

Right now I’m leaning toward the Ryobi ONE+ 18V 4-gallon backpack sprayer with the battery and charger included, partly because my local Home Depot has it in stock, but I’m wondering how long a 2.0 Ah Ryobi battery takes to recharge, and if the 40 spray gallons per charge claim could be true or not.

I know a lot of y’all have experience with Ryobi tools. Is this sprayer a good buy?

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I can't say whether it's a good buy but that looks like the compact fast charger which will charge that battery in an hour from flat.

Manifisto
Sep 18, 2013


Pillbug
hello all, I am x-posting from the byob spaceship thread and I hope this is the right place for the question!

I am in the planning stage of outfitting my partly-constructed new workshop area. I'm pretty much a novice although I've managed to do various smallish projects without hurting myself.

right now the most essential piece of equipment I lack is a table saw and would appreciate recommendations. I have a miter saw and a couple circular saws (one corded, one electric) but now that I have a place to put it the table saw seems to make sense. I'm not looking to spend a ton but something that will work properly and not break immediately would be nice. Amazon comes up with lots of compact jobsite table saws, I would appreciate the space saving but is there a significant downside to using one of these? there are some well reviewed dewalt and skil ones but I don't know from table saws.

I imagine I'll also be wanting a router at some point, but I haven't even figured out whether a plunge or table router will be more useful for me.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



I. M. Gei posted:

*sigh* Guess I’ll crosspost this, too...


Right now I’m leaning toward the Ryobi ONE+ 18V 4-gallon backpack sprayer with the battery and charger included, partly because my local Home Depot has it in stock, but I’m wondering how long a 2.0 Ah Ryobi battery takes to recharge, and if the 40 spray gallons per charge claim could be true or not.

I know a lot of y’all have experience with Ryobi tools. Is this sprayer a good buy?

I like their tools and this is a pleasant surprise. I have only 6 trees (and lots of tomatoes), but this looks way more convenient than rolling out a compressor, cord, hose, 1 qt. cup gun, etc. The thing I'd be leery of is the 2.0 amp battery. If you have 20 trees, do yourself a favor up front and get a couple of 4 or 5 amp ones. Or go ahead first and see how long a single 2 amp battery lasts. Imo, even a single 4 or 5 is going to be downtime charging you won't want. And report back if you do go that route, please.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Manifisto posted:

hello all, I am x-posting from the byob spaceship thread and I hope this is the right place for the question!

I am in the planning stage of outfitting my partly-constructed new workshop area. I'm pretty much a novice although I've managed to do various smallish projects without hurting myself.

right now the most essential piece of equipment I lack is a table saw and would appreciate recommendations. I have a miter saw and a couple circular saws (one corded, one electric) but now that I have a place to put it the table saw seems to make sense. I'm not looking to spend a ton but something that will work properly and not break immediately would be nice. Amazon comes up with lots of compact jobsite table saws, I would appreciate the space saving but is there a significant downside to using one of these? there are some well reviewed dewalt and skil ones but I don't know from table saws.

I imagine I'll also be wanting a router at some point, but I haven't even figured out whether a plunge or table router will be more useful for me.

I had the dewalt before I upgraded to what in the US would be called a cabinet saw, I think. It's good for what it is, but you're a little limited on surface area. I upgraded mostly so I could cut larger sheets more easily.

Manifisto
Sep 18, 2013


Pillbug

Jaded Burnout posted:

I had the dewalt before I upgraded to what in the US would be called a cabinet saw, I think. It's good for what it is, but you're a little limited on surface area. I upgraded mostly so I could cut larger sheets more easily.

thanks. yeah I just don't know how often I'm gonna be cutting large sheets. being able to take the saw outside weather permitting sounds p nice tho.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Finally got around to going through my stack of warranty registration cards. Unfortunately all of them have a 2 week time limit to fill out the lovely forms so no warranties for me!

Elem7
Apr 12, 2003
der
Dinosaur Gum
Assuming you're in the US, and you're set on buying new, the next step above the jobsite saws are "hybrids" of which Lowes and Home Depot both stock exactly one model each. The HD model is a Rigid and the Lowes is a Delta, you're looking at $500-700 depending on whether or not you find them on sale. Both come with wheels so while you can't practically carry them outside you can wheel them out of a garage into the driveway.

I bought the Delta 36-725 from Lowes last year and have been pretty happy with it, another goon also did around the same time late last year and did a pretty good review. If you're interested in that one keep in mind they no longer sale the 36-725 but instead the 36-725T2 which is an updated version that has a slightly more powerful motor from the looks of it but can't be converted to 240v like the original.

Manifisto
Sep 18, 2013


Pillbug

Elem7 posted:

Assuming you're in the US, and you're set on buying new, the next step above the jobsite saws are "hybrids" of which Lowes and Home Depot both stock exactly one model each. The HD model is a Rigid and the Lowes is a Delta, you're looking at $500-700 depending on whether or not you find them on sale. Both come with wheels so while you can't practically carry them outside you can wheel them out of a garage into the driveway.

I bought the Delta 36-725 from Lowes last year and have been pretty happy with it, another goon also did around the same time late last year and did a pretty good review. If you're interested in that one keep in mind they no longer sale the 36-725 but instead the 36-725T2 which is an updated version that has a slightly more powerful motor from the looks of it but can't be converted to 240v like the original.

thank you! yes I am in the US, I am not set on new but I don't have a lot of cargo space to carry stuff and since I'm in a kinda remote spot carting something large would be a challenge. I'll look into the hybrids, that's a good option to know about.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Delta 36-725 is a good saw. I miss mine every day. Sadly mine got lost in a divorce.

It's a wonderful weekend warrior / garage workshop saw

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Jaded Burnout posted:

Finally got around to going through my stack of warranty registration cards. Unfortunately all of them have a 2 week time limit to fill out the lovely forms so no warranties for me!

You did fill them in within 2 weeks, they obviously got delayed in the post.

Bob Mundon
Dec 1, 2003
Your Friendly Neighborhood Gun Nut
Anyone have any experience with the Porter Cable 14in band saw at Lowe's? I keep striking out on craigslist deals, and this caught my eye since the 1.5hp motor seems like an outlier at this price point. Will keep looking out for a used one on CL, but if that comes up on sale first may snag it.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/PORTER-CABLE-13-625-in-10-Amp-Stationary-Band-Saw/3162487


Missed out on a 14in Grizzly anniversary saw for $200 by about 5 minutes in my estimation. I was not thrilled.

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

I bought a Delta 36-725 after Christmas, I'm very happy with it. It took a bit of fiddling to get the blade aligned, but for the price point, it's pretty unbeatable. If you have the space for it, I highly recommend it. My shop is very small (~9'x20'), so the table saw is basically the center of it, and it really only just fits.

If you really need the jobsite size, I've heard good things about the DeWalt jobsite saw. Avoid the Ryobi at all costs. I thought that thing was going to kill me every time I turned it on.

Manifisto
Sep 18, 2013


Pillbug

more falafel please posted:

I bought a Delta 36-725 after Christmas, I'm very happy with it. It took a bit of fiddling to get the blade aligned, but for the price point, it's pretty unbeatable. If you have the space for it, I highly recommend it. My shop is very small (~9'x20'), so the table saw is basically the center of it, and it really only just fits.

If you really need the jobsite size, I've heard good things about the DeWalt jobsite saw. Avoid the Ryobi at all costs. I thought that thing was going to kill me every time I turned it on.

hmm my space is not going to be much bigger than your space, that's good to know but it may just be too big for me. thanks for the info!

Nevets
Sep 11, 2002

Be they sad or be they well,
I'll make their lives a hell
I got the Ridgid hybrid table saw 10 years ago for $500 and am very happy with it.

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME



Toilet Rascal

Bob Mundon posted:

Anyone have any experience with the Porter Cable 14in band saw at Lowe's? I keep striking out on craigslist deals, and this caught my eye since the 1.5hp motor seems like an outlier at this price point. Will keep looking out for a used one on CL, but if that comes up on sale first may snag it.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/PORTER-CABLE-13-625-in-10-Amp-Stationary-Band-Saw/3162487


Missed out on a 14in Grizzly anniversary saw for $200 by about 5 minutes in my estimation. I was not thrilled.

Man, now you’ve got me trawling Craigslist looking for a bandsaw too... always wanted a 14” model.

If you’re buying from Lowes and it’s full price, you could save 55$ on that with a lowesdeals.com 10% off coupon.

Porter cable used to make good tools, but they’re pretty much a zombie brand now afaik. Dunno who makes it, probably the same saw as HF. But 500$ isn’t a bad price either way I’d think.

Bob Mundon
Dec 1, 2003
Your Friendly Neighborhood Gun Nut

OSU_Matthew posted:

Man, now you’ve got me trawling Craigslist looking for a bandsaw too... always wanted a 14” model.

If you’re buying from Lowes and it’s full price, you could save 55$ on that with a lowesdeals.com 10% off coupon.

Porter cable used to make good tools, but they’re pretty much a zombie brand now afaik. Dunno who makes it, probably the same saw as HF. But 500$ isn’t a bad price either way I’d think.


That plus a discounted Raise gift card is what I'm thinking. Probably hold off until a price drop hits though, 550 seems like the high end of what it's been listed at.

Definitely not a HF saw at 1.5hp vs 1hp, and has some different features so it's probably a clone of something else.

Speaking of the HF saw, am I crazy for thinking that wouldn't be a terrible option either? Ideally I'll find a cheap CL posting or that Porter Cable, but is there anything inherently wrong with it? Seems like if you can set up the blade and guides correctly and balance wheels if necessary not a whole lot else to go wrong with a band saw that can't be easily fixed. Someone please stop me.

Elem7
Apr 12, 2003
der
Dinosaur Gum
Bleh, my local Laguna dealer got back to me, their bandsaws are backordered till late November/December at this point, I'll be waiting till next year accounting for freight if I go that direction.

I had a closer look at that Porter-Cable, first time I've seen a large bandsaw for sale at the local Lowes in my area but considering I'd still need to buy a seperate fence and a riser block kit I just don't think it's worth the savings over more expensive saws to me. Doesn't even come with a miter gauge?!

Found a local industrial supplier who has a Grizzly G0555LX in stock I'm considering, pretty similar to the one at Lowes but it comes with a fence and supports 3/4 blades instead of just 1/2. Interestingly it uses 11 amps as opposed to 10 amps in the PC but only advertises 1hp not 1.5hp. I'm seeing a bunch of different saws with amp ratings from 9-11 that are inconsistently rating that at 1hp to 1.5hp. Power Factor in the motor can make a difference but that seems like to big a swing which gives me doubts about the models advertising 1.5hp on 10 amps, I'm not sure its worth giving the HP rating much stock vs amps.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Is a small horse, a 1.5 ponys really.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


You gotta pony up for more horses

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Elem7 posted:

Bleh, my local Laguna dealer got back to me, their bandsaws are backordered till late November/December at this point, I'll be waiting till next year accounting for freight if I go that direction.

I had a closer look at that Porter-Cable, first time I've seen a large bandsaw for sale at the local Lowes in my area but considering I'd still need to buy a seperate fence and a riser block kit I just don't think it's worth the savings over more expensive saws to me. Doesn't even come with a miter gauge?!

Found a local industrial supplier who has a Grizzly G0555LX in stock I'm considering, pretty similar to the one at Lowes but it comes with a fence and supports 3/4 blades instead of just 1/2. Interestingly it uses 11 amps as opposed to 10 amps in the PC but only advertises 1hp not 1.5hp. I'm seeing a bunch of different saws with amp ratings from 9-11 that are inconsistently rating that at 1hp to 1.5hp. Power Factor in the motor can make a difference but that seems like to big a swing which gives me doubts about the models advertising 1.5hp on 10 amps, I'm not sure its worth giving the HP rating much stock vs amps.
I would not buy a Porter Cable bandsaw. They still make decent routers, but other than that the seem to be in late stage capitalism 'run it into the ground and trade off a once trusted logo' mode these days. I doubt you'd ever find parts for it.

Grizzly stuff is mostly decent.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Elem7 posted:

Bleh, my local Laguna dealer got back to me, their bandsaws are backordered till late November/December at this point, I'll be waiting till next year accounting for freight if I go that direction.

I had a closer look at that Porter-Cable, first time I've seen a large bandsaw for sale at the local Lowes in my area but considering I'd still need to buy a seperate fence and a riser block kit I just don't think it's worth the savings over more expensive saws to me. Doesn't even come with a miter gauge?!

Found a local industrial supplier who has a Grizzly G0555LX in stock I'm considering, pretty similar to the one at Lowes but it comes with a fence and supports 3/4 blades instead of just 1/2. Interestingly it uses 11 amps as opposed to 10 amps in the PC but only advertises 1hp not 1.5hp. I'm seeing a bunch of different saws with amp ratings from 9-11 that are inconsistently rating that at 1hp to 1.5hp. Power Factor in the motor can make a difference but that seems like to big a swing which gives me doubts about the models advertising 1.5hp on 10 amps, I'm not sure its worth giving the HP rating much stock vs amps.

Amazon shows Laguna- woops "Usually ships within 3 to 5 weeks.", Rikon, and hold the phone- they're displaying Grizzlys too :wtc: If you're okay to splash out for a good bandsaw I'd go with either of those by a mile over PC or HF.

Elem7
Apr 12, 2003
der
Dinosaur Gum
I never really considered the PC all that seriously for myself, it strikes me as awfully lacking in features vs something like a Wen, but it's probably serviceable. I had already committed to spending the money on the Laguna, since I don't want to wait quite that long and deal it in the middle of winter I'm going to be placing an order for a 19'' Grizzly instead, about what I was going to spend on a 14'' from Laguna.

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

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Elem7 posted:

I never really considered the PC all that seriously for myself, it strikes me as awfully lacking in features vs something like a Wen, but it's probably serviceable. I had already committed to spending the money on the Laguna, since I don't want to wait quite that long and deal it in the middle of winter I'm going to be placing an order for a 19'' Grizzly instead, about what I was going to spend on a 14'' from Laguna.

Ooohh... think of the bandsaw boxes you could make with 19”

I’m still mad at myself for selling my 9” bandsaw to upgrade to a 14”, only to never seem to have the cash. Bandsaw is hands down my favorite woodworking tool.

In fact, this grizzly chat has me incredibly tempted to pull the trigger on a 17” anniversary edition right now...

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Mr. Mambold posted:

I like their tools and this is a pleasant surprise. I have only 6 trees (and lots of tomatoes), but this looks way more convenient than rolling out a compressor, cord, hose, 1 qt. cup gun, etc. The thing I'd be leery of is the 2.0 amp battery. If you have 20 trees, do yourself a favor up front and get a couple of 4 or 5 amp ones. Or go ahead first and see how long a single 2 amp battery lasts. Imo, even a single 4 or 5 is going to be downtime charging you won't want. And report back if you do go that route, please.

I don’t have a ton of cash to work with, so I can only really afford the 2.0 Ah battery that comes with the sprayer. I could afford to grab another battery if I was buying a smaller sprayer, but the 4-gallon Ryobi is the only battery sprayer my local Home Depot has in stock that comes with a battery and is within my price range. I’d prefer not to have to wait on shipping for something smaller, since I can’t really put off spraying my trees any longer than I already have.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Just get it then, worst case you spray half the trees before lunch, half after.

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

My belt grinder arrives tomorroowwwwwwww

Ordered late July, but on backorder due to unprecedented demand (also they're the same brand that Alec Steele is selling). Coming with a 1.1kw motor, VFD from a seperate supplier. Need to order some belts though

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NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out

I. M. Gei posted:

I don’t have a ton of cash to work with, so I can only really afford the 2.0 Ah battery that comes with the sprayer. I could afford to grab another battery if I was buying a smaller sprayer, but the 4-gallon Ryobi is the only battery sprayer my local Home Depot has in stock that comes with a battery and is within my price range. I’d prefer not to have to wait on shipping for something smaller, since I can’t really put off spraying my trees any longer than I already have.

FWIW I have the one gallon sprayer and use a 1.5ah battery with it, have always run out of fluid before the battery dies. I don't think the little motor takes that much juice.

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