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Ingmar terdman posted:Sure but have you seen oscar isaac Beef: Swelled
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euphronius posted:How about the unsheathing sound when Mohiam brings out the gom jabber wait she doesnt keep it in a scabbard
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Sep 10, 2020 03:20
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also im glad the trailer is in the OP but i need kazoo Lynch dune and i can't find the video
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StashAugustine posted:also im glad the trailer is in the OP but i need kazoo Lynch dune and i can't find the video Search for Dune Sweded, friend
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euphronius posted:How about the unsheathing sound when Mohiam brings out the gom jabber I hope in the real movie the foley artists unload the full breadth of resting gun noises for it
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Sep 10, 2020 03:45
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A trailer the likes of which even God has never seen!
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My ideal Feyd is Bill Skarsgård. He's twinkish, scary, and would have a family resemblance with the Baron.
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Mad Hamish posted:A trailer the likes of which even God has never seen!
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StashAugustine posted:can you do drive through imax with enough horsepower and steel reinforcement, any theatre can be a drive-through one
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rydiafan posted:My ideal Feyd is Bill Skarsgård. He's twinkish, scary, and would have a family resemblance with the Baron. thinking about it they really missed a step not having all the skarsgards being various harkonnens
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Harris Dickinson for Feyd, although he looks like he might be booked up, with 4 unreleased films at the moment.
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kiimo posted:
....Oh yeah. That's annoying, now I can only be upset when it isn't him.
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Just had a friend ask about reading Dune, and whether or not they should start with the prequels. I explained things a bit and they responded, "We're so lucky we got Christopher Tolkein and not whatever Mr Dune got." I was amazed at the clarity and rapidity of his perception. Could this be the kwisatz haderach?
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Frank Dune, author of various scifi works including Stephan's Swarm, The Thosai Experiment and Dragon in the Pond.
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euphronius posted:Did anyone notice the circle in the middle of the screen motif for the whole trailer yes
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Sep 10, 2020 10:57
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Oh boy I sure remember the Butlerian Crusade 
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I can't say I'm happy that they seem to be toning down and hiding the Islamic themes in Dune, because it goes a lot further than being a sci-fi Middle Eastern desert planet where Spice = Oil (which is also a simplistic view of the spice, because applicability doesn't have to mean allegory).
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Sadly when you make a movie you have to consider how racist Americans are
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Is anyone else experiencing a persistent beefswelling and/or girdershape after viewing the trailer?
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Waterfat beef the world over
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euphronius posted:Sadly when you make a movie you have to consider how racist Americans are Yeah, though I think they look at it more like "alienating their audience" and using "Crusade" rather than "Jihad" probably seems much more safer to whoever it was that decided that. Don't know if it's a factor, but I assume (what with their concentration camps for that) that having your movie have lots of Islamic themes might make it a tough sell in China.
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Is there some official statement that the word isn't in the movie? Even if the movie used it a thousand times, I can think of a number of reasons why the trailer might not
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The Bloop posted:Is there some official statement that the word isn't in the movie? No. It's just conjecture from the trailer.
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It's also a bit of hyperbole because I'm pretty sure Paul himself refers to the Jihad as 'a crusade.'
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Yeah, in context it's probably fine actually. I guess I just wouldn't be very surprised by it all being kind of "generalized" because the look of the movie from that trailer seems very generic sci-fi. It has nothing on the art direction and costume design in David Lynch's Dune, which is greatly disappointing to me because I was nurturing a hope that they would take the lessons about what was good (or rather looked good) in that movie, and then make an actually good movie instead of a boring mess. Like I know it's more like another attempt at an adaptation, but Dune is very much a case of remake being welcomed and apppropriate in IMO because the last attempt just wasn't very good. Which is different than the usual remake scenario where you take something that was popular and successful and try to just repeat it.
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The word crusade does exist in the book dunc Also it’s pretty much a synonym for jihad so I mean
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Trailer reminded me that just before the Pandemic broke out, I burned all my Audible credits on all the audiobooks. I've not read the books since I was a teen, so yay! I have so much optimism for the movie. Characters look great, aesthetics look great, what limited camera direction we saw looks great (there seems to be a real heaviness and grounded feel to the camera work, which is a nice break from the floatycam from other classic sf/f book adaptation like LotR and Hobbit). As long as the editing isn't garbage, it seems set to be a winner, and a great way to introduce newbies to the universe.
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Lynch Dune had inventive costumes, yes, but the Fremen were just white dudes in gimp suits
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I do think as well there's an element of, language is malleable and changes. To I suspect 'most' people in the west, Jihad is going to imply some level of terrorism at the least and possibly suicide bombing at the extreme end. And, you can't really say "No no, you've got the word wrong" because that IS the only context they'd have heard it used ever, and would have used it themselves, and to each other, in that context. That is what that word would mean to them. Like it or not, that means it wouldn't be telling quite the right story, where 'Crusade' would actually be slightly more accurate. Language is determined by common usage, and if the word has changed since the book existed, that's not a 're imagining' of the book. I'm kinda playing devils advocate here, it's not like I think Jihad should have been cut, I just don't think its pandering or 'wussing out' to not use a highly charged word that will suggest an incorrect reading of the plot. Like I think if there was some old book made into a film that used 'Wench' to mean female child in the book like it's archaic meaning, or like 'hussy' to refer to a housewife, it would totally make sense not to use it in the film, because it would sound like it was saying something it wasn't. It would be weird to keep it in. I feel like it's probably more along those lines, than any kind of fear.
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StashAugustine posted:Lynch Dune had inventive costumes, yes, but the Fremen were just white dudes in gimp suits Fremen were bad in Lynch Dune yeah. I don't care much for them here either, but seems a little better.
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The word jihad is only ever spoken in reference to the Butlerian jihad in the original book. Actually it’s only even spoken once, by Mohiam. All the use of it to refer to Paul’s future war is in interior monologue/narration.
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skasion posted:The word jihad is only ever spoken in reference to the Butlerian jihad in the original book. Actually it’s only even spoken once, by Mohiam. All the use of it to refer to Paul’s future war is in interior monologue/narration. its in the appendix too. but also as you mention in reference to the Butlerian. euphronius fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 10, 2020 |
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euphronius posted:its in the appendix too. I doubt they will film that. Although, imo, the story of daddy Kynes could be an excellent intro to movie 2.
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skasion posted:The word jihad is only ever spoken in reference to the Butlerian jihad in the original book. Actually it’s only even spoken once, by Mohiam. All the use of it to refer to Paul’s future war is in interior monologue/narration. but i want to be incensed about something goddammit
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skasion posted:I doubt they will film that. Peter Jackson did. You never know lol
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!Klams posted:I do think as well there's an element of, language is malleable and changes. To I suspect 'most' people in the west, Jihad is going to imply some level of terrorism at the least and possibly suicide bombing at the extreme end. I think a Fremen jihad would involve suicide bombing (Fedaykin death commandoes and all) so it communicates better in that respect.
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