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Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
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Yeah, they're in the process of re-packaging everything with the new branding and the new instructions with the new datasheets. Takes a while.

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Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Cinara posted:

I have this problem for sure, even though I likely will never play a single game of 40k(or at least not any time soon) the idea of an actually fully painted army is enticing. But between the speed I paint and how often I actually sit down and do it, I get maybe one model finished a week, usually less.

My other issue is finishing that last 5% on models, the tiny details that are "fine" to leave partially completed, like doing the text/symbols on purity seals. I end up moving on to another project and tell myself I'll get around to it eventually.

I think the key thing that has helped me here is taking the idea of "battle ready" and "parade ready" to heart, and I guess its sort of normal for me as I went to a bunch of tournaments with a minimum painting standard.

Getting an army fully "battle ready" doesn't take a huge amount of time. Next month I'll be getting a CSM Start Collecting box, and I can probably get them all stuck together, based, and to a "battle ready" standard of base colours and maybe a wash on like one weekend of solid painting, maybe two weekends of less intense painting with a couple of hours during the week.

Obviously this doesn't look amazing, but it's miles better than playing with or against grey plastic.

Getting each model to that "parade ready" standard though is a real long term goal, and it's made super hard by the fact painting bog standard troops with all those little details, that 5% as you say, is boring as poo poo.

I've painted two infantry squads and 8/10 Kasrkin models to that standard and I'm already bored of highlighting guardsmen armour, and highlighting fatigues in greys. I'm bored of painting the same lasguns black and highlighting them. I'm bored of painting the cadian gate logo and numbers on their shoulders by hand, because it looks great but takes ages.

That all being said, I really want to get three 1,000 point crusade armies to that parade ready standard. That's my long term hobby goal. 1,000 points of Guard, 1,000 points of Grey Knights, and 1,000 points of Word Bearers.

My short term goal in October will simply be to get the word bearers to battle ready. The GK and IG are already battle ready. This idea is after that point every unit I add is a short term goal of getting it battle ready before it hits the table, and a long term goal of parade ready.

I think if anyone who likes to play a lot sets themselves a goal of "my entire army needs to be painted as close to 'eavy metal standard as possible" without having achieved "its got the basic colours on and looks OK on a table" I think it can be really demotivating, particularly if your opponent has a fully painted army.

At least when they all have the base colours on and some basing when you're stood at the table looking down it will all look good enough, and slowly you can replace the "good enough" units with "good" units.

Kitchner fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Sep 9, 2020

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Cinara posted:

I have this problem for sure, even though I likely will never play a single game of 40k(or at least not any time soon) the idea of an actually fully painted army is enticing. But between the speed I paint and how often I actually sit down and do it, I get maybe one model finished a week, usually less.

My other issue is finishing that last 5% on models, the tiny details that are "fine" to leave partially completed, like doing the text/symbols on purity seals. I end up moving on to another project and tell myself I'll get around to it eventually.

I try to do one model a day, and so far i've been pretty good about that. Right now working on the new Necrons, and then I have a Sisters of Battle squad to paint and then I am finished with my backlog.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Kitchner posted:

I think the key thing that has helped me here is taking the idea of "battle ready" and "parade ready" to heart, and I guess its sort of normal for me as I went to a bunch of tournaments with a minimum painting standard.

IMO the most important thing is to be very honest with yourself about who you're painting for, how much you actually enjoy the painting process, how much time you're spending at each stage of the model and if that extra effort really makes a difference when viewing thirty models from two feet away in basement lighting. You can always return and edge highlight them into space later. Get your army core out first to have fun with it.

Scouring youtube for speed advice helps too. Zenithal highlighting and sketching colours rather than painting every micron of the model has been great for my speed.

I'm normally anal as hell. I've been very casually painting some smol marines and I was surprised to realise I didn't give a poo poo if my dudes were just sprayed to a zenithal, panels lined, aquillas and weapons with basic shade/highlight. They look fine, good in a group. That unpainted purity seal usually vanishes at a distance.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Eifert Posting posted:

So I last posted in like May. The reason was I moved and haven't done much painting, it has picked up a bit though. I basically did not paint in May or June as we were doing house stuff, as of July though this is my new dedicated Hamspace:



Wtf :eyepop:

Spiv
Oct 9, 2006

When life throws lemons at you, nuke the fucker!

Kitchner posted:

Painting words

I hit this last month.

I had one wraithguard to go to finish off my Eldar at 3k points. I procrastinated because I did 9 others in like 3 days plus a wraithlord. In addition, their gun hands are a bitch for me to paint. I have a hard time with the hand holding the under side.

I'm a stickler for getting the scheme right. So much so that when I hear people talk about not painting parts you can't see - I cringe. It's a totally valid point, I just can't handle it knowing there's spots not painted. I dunno why.

Anyways, I just chipped away at it over a week. One coat here, one coat there and now I just have to finish one gem and its done.

My next army is Chaos Knights and I figure it'll be faster and more fun as I plan on going to town with some ridiculous paint scheme just sloshed on (after testing and confirmed appeasement).

Spiv fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Sep 9, 2020

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



Spiv posted:

I hit this last month.

I had one wraithguard to go to finish off my Eldar at 3k points

Post ur Eldar please.

I'm hoping to have my first, new, unit finished within the week.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

There are probably 50+ zip codes in California where there isn't a single property cheaper than my house. All the sudden flyover states look alright, huh?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Eifert Posting posted:

There are probably 50+ zip codes in California where there isn't a single property cheaper than my house. All the sudden flyover states look alright, huh?

I've been trying to tell goons this for years

Not quite ready to buy a home yet but I rent a two story townhouse with 1000 sqft for $700 /mo, no upstairs neighbors making noise or downstairs neighbors complaining that you walked on the floor in socks too loud, and i can literally park five feet from my door

I might get paid 70% of what people are making in Denver but weed's legal in Oklahoma and most LGSes are fundamentally the same place wherever you go. Here in Tulsa we've still got enough people to support all the major variants; Fighting Games Store, Magic Store, Not-Magic Cardgames Store, Warhammer Store, Historicals Store, Fashy Store, etc

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry
My daily struggle is the combination of not having enough space for warhammer and not wanting to live outside of London and not being rich. At the moment the warhammer is losing, along with not being rich.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Kitchner posted:

My daily struggle is the combination of not having enough space for warhammer and not wanting to live outside of London and not being rich. At the moment the warhammer is losing, along with not being rich.

You might consider a medium sized city at some point; maybe make a day trip somewhere and see what the life is like

I think a lot of people underestimate amenities because they're used to a wealth of options but in reality most people just go to a small handful of trusted destinations and there's usually at least one good place for whatever you're looking for wherever you go

I don't know life in the UK but I know living in and around college towns in flyover states in the US is a great way to save a lot of money and still have a social life

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Has anyone tried a fold up table that meets the size requirements for a 1000 - 2000 point game? I am struggling to have the space to do anything larger than Kill Team until table top gaming stores open back up again, and thought maybe a foldable table might work so I can put it away in the garage when not in use.

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

I said come in! posted:

Has anyone tried a fold up table that meets the size requirements for a 1000 - 2000 point game? I am struggling to have the space to do anything larger than Kill Team until table top gaming stores open back up again, and thought maybe a foldable table might work so I can put it away in the garage when not in use.

Its a little on the expensive side but ive not seen anything that beat the alpha table https://firmerterra.com/

The option Ive used for years though is just two home-depot folding tables pushed together and thats worked pretty good but isn't exactly compact.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Zasze posted:

Its a little on the expensive side but ive not seen anything that beat the alpha table https://firmerterra.com/

The option Ive used for years though is just two home-depot folding tables pushed together and thats worked pretty good but isn't exactly compact.

:worship: this goes well beyond what I had in mind and is perfect. Need to take some measurements but I think this might work.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

I have two cheap 2'x4' folding tables you can get from any big box stores. Just set them up in a 4'x4' square and flop a mat over them.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

I said come in! posted:

:worship: this goes well beyond what I had in mind and is perfect. Need to take some measurements but I think this might work.

This seems to be basically the same table that gamemat.eu and a few other tables sell, just with a lick of black paint on it. It's really useful and folds away nicely.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
Crosspost, pbbbbbbbbt


Dr. Red Ranger posted:

I finished another wee Ralph Bakshi villain lookin space man. I used the base brown scheme for green from way back and he turned out looking practically radioactive. Still learning about blending and proper highlighting but life's been busy so I'm just trying to enjoy myself.




Funny how he compares to his younger brother.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

I said come in! posted:

:worship: this goes well beyond what I had in mind and is perfect. Need to take some measurements but I think this might work.

The table in my post is that.

Contingency
Jun 2, 2007

MURDERER

Zasze posted:

Its a little on the expensive side but ive not seen anything that beat the alpha table https://firmerterra.com/

The option Ive used for years though is just two home-depot folding tables pushed together and thats worked pretty good but isn't exactly compact.

The promo pics of that table look like the one from gamemat.eu, but a bit more expensive: https://www.gamemat.eu/en/folding-gaming-table/6-x4-g-board-folding-gaming-table.html
I have one, but it's not as sturdy as say a cafeteria table. The table will stay up if you kick one of the center legs, but some of your models/terrain will shift slightly. It's still a folding table. I recommend you have two people set it up to avoid too much weight on the legs when you flip it.

1000 point board from last month's game:

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Eifert Posting posted:

There are probably 50+ zip codes in California where there isn't a single property cheaper than my house. All the sudden flyover states look alright, huh?

Hah I live in an Australian flyover state with probably the cheapest property market, but we're still in a massive bubble as a country.

I was more appreciating the sheer radness of the space.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Mirthless posted:

You might consider a medium sized city at some point; maybe make a day trip somewhere and see what the life is like

I think a lot of people underestimate amenities because they're used to a wealth of options but in reality most people just go to a small handful of trusted destinations and there's usually at least one good place for whatever you're looking for wherever you go

I don't know life in the UK but I know living in and around college towns in flyover states in the US is a great way to save a lot of money and still have a social life

I like other big cities in the UK but sadly my job means I'm basically restricted to London with good opportunities, maybe Manchester or Birmingham wiith OK ones and shite ones everywhere else. y job tends to be based in a head office of a big company, which means they are concentrated within London for the most part.


I said come in! posted:

Has anyone tried a fold up table that meets the size requirements for a 1000 - 2000 point game? I am struggling to have the space to do anything larger than Kill Team until table top gaming stores open back up again, and thought maybe a foldable table might work so I can put it away in the garage when not in use.

The new 1,000 point board size is 44"x30" which is two kill team boards pushed together, I bought a specialist mat (which cost more than the MDF terrain i bought!) and it fits onto my dining table quite easily.

2,000 points is a bit harder as you need a 44x60" board area which is a really awkward size

Twigand Berries
Sep 7, 2008

I said come in! posted:

Necromunda: Underhive Wars is out now on Steam.

It's a buggy mess but I like it!

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011
There's people saying wait for bug fixes. But apparently a lot of the bugs seem to be the same ones that never got fixed in Mordheim.

I loved tabletop Mordheim, and tried very hard to like the PC version, but I just couldn't.

Snail Information
May 29, 2010

Snailmancy
Kitchner have you considered leaving the UK

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
GW is opening a store in my town which I’m kind of meh about. What are the current store opening models? Do they still do that?

BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.

Beerdeer posted:

GW is opening a store in my town which I’m kind of meh about. What are the current store opening models? Do they still do that?

It WAS the Catachan Sergeant "Ripper" Jackson, but she'll be everywhere apparently on the 12th

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/04/visit-your-local-warhammer-store/

JackMann
Aug 11, 2010

Secure. Contain. Protect.
Fallen Rib
I have completed some more stuff!

First, I have the Indomitus Lieutenant.



I gave him a MKIII head from the FW Iron Hands upgrade pack just to make things look a little more unique. Plus, who doesn't like green lenses? The more the merrier!



I based the painting of the pistol on Rockfish's Lieutenant. I really liked the molten iron look he gave it.



My freehand is getting better. It's not good by any stretch of the imagination, but you can more-or-less make out what this says, which is a huge improvement. Previous attempts have usually ended up with me grabbing the micron pen, but I just used the brush this time. Also pretty happy with how the shield came out overall.



Went with my usual standby for basing. Vallejo red oxide paste, primed black and painted with various shades of brown, and then some static grass.



I also finished my eradicators! I'd gotten most of the painting done on these guys a few weeks ago, but I forgot to do decals and didn't paint their purity seals. That corrected, they were ready to be sealed and photographed.

And finally, some terrain complete:



Technically they're Age of Sigmar terrain, but there are still trees in the grim darkness of the 41st millenium.

I've still got a lot of painting to do to get my Orks and Iron Hands ready for the table, but it's nice to make some decent progress on things.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Beerdeer posted:

GW is opening a store in my town which I’m kind of meh about. What are the current store opening models? Do they still do that?

There's at least two flavours of store special Primaris marines from what I recall and a pair of female Stormcast.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Maneck posted:

There's people saying wait for bug fixes. But apparently a lot of the bugs seem to be the same ones that never got fixed in Mordheim.

I loved tabletop Mordheim, and tried very hard to like the PC version, but I just couldn't.

I've played a little bit of Necromunda and graphically it's great, I think the movement in the game is really clever and needs some tweaking.

The biggest bug that has rally bothered me so far is a friend and I did a 2 vs 2 fight against the AI and the game didn't end, which forced one of us to forfeit, which I volunteered to do as my gang only did one mission prior to that. They all got crazy injuries so I had to delete my gang and remake it. Stuff like crashes to desktop and graphical glitches are annoying but doesn't effect what you've done too much as it saves mid mission against the AI.

The other big problem is just the fact the AI is a bit poo poo. I've seen them do all sorts of nonsensical stuff. I've see dudes throw grenades at themselves, do some laps before ending up where they started and then shooting someone, and I saw a gang leader and a mate hide under a bridge doing drugs while my two remaining gang members killed two people from his gang, then killed both of them.

I want the fame to be good and I hope they are going to fix these things.


Snail Information posted:

Kitchner have you considered leaving the UK

What? And be a foreigner in some distant land?

In all seriousness, I've travelled a lot with work (and a bit on my own money) and I've never been anywhere else I'd want to live.

If I was physically forced from London I'd probably move back home to Cardiff, and if I was physically removed from the UK I'd move to Australia simply as I have family there. If that wasn't an option I genuinely think I'd struggle to choose somewhere to live.

Australia would be really bad for my plastic toy hobby though as it's so expensive there.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Is there a specific name for this painting style?

https://imgur.com/P1tYjZI

I like the striated look and was wondering if there was a tutorial out there somewhere.

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007

The Demilich posted:

Is there a specific name for this painting style?

https://imgur.com/P1tYjZI

I like the striated look and was wondering if there was a tutorial out there somewhere.

"A grotesque amount of brush control"

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


The Demilich posted:

Is there a specific name for this painting style?

https://imgur.com/P1tYjZI

I like the striated look and was wondering if there was a tutorial out there somewhere.

Yeah its some really good hatching on the skin. Would be really hard to do without a special brush, id imagine.

or

Winklebottom posted:

"A grotesque amount of brush control"

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Is that just white Sharpie or some other kind of paint marker because holy crap

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]
More impressive than the brush control would be the mastery of paint consistency. It is hard to get paint that behaves that well.

Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes
it also looks like that's an oversized sculpt or even a small statue, not a typical miniature.

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

Has anyone ever experienced a Forgeworld kit that takes a ridiculous amount of time to wash? I’ve had this kit soaking for about 5 days now and every morning I exchange the water and it is cloudy as heck and has those floating wisps of mould release agent. I’ve never dealt with a kit that wasn’t happy with a scrub and a soak for a day before. It doesn’t even look like it’s covered in release agent.

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Mr Teatime posted:

Has anyone ever experienced a Forgeworld kit that takes a ridiculous amount of time to wash? I’ve had this kit soaking for about 5 days now and every morning I exchange the water and it is cloudy as heck and has those floating wisps of mould release agent. I’ve never dealt with a kit that wasn’t happy with a scrub and a soak for a day before. It doesn’t even look like it’s covered in release agent.

I mean with resin I usually just wash it with a toothbrush and washing up liquid and call it a day.

Gato The Elder
Apr 14, 2006

Pillbug

Mr Teatime posted:

Has anyone ever experienced a Forgeworld kit that takes a ridiculous amount of time to wash? I’ve had this kit soaking for about 5 days now and every morning I exchange the water and it is cloudy as heck and has those floating wisps of mould release agent. I’ve never dealt with a kit that wasn’t happy with a scrub and a soak for a day before. It doesn’t even look like it’s covered in release agent.

I once had a forgeworld kit that had resin that hadn't cured properly (or something?) and it kept sloughing off =/

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Mr Teatime posted:

Has anyone ever experienced a Forgeworld kit that takes a ridiculous amount of time to wash? I’ve had this kit soaking for about 5 days now and every morning I exchange the water and it is cloudy as heck and has those floating wisps of mould release agent. I’ve never dealt with a kit that wasn’t happy with a scrub and a soak for a day before. It doesn’t even look like it’s covered in release agent.

They have had miscures in the past. There was a run of GUOs that weren't good and one Games Day we got Golden Demons that were still leaking (but they had gone ahead and drybushed gold/silver/bronze).

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BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.
Yeah I soak any resin in dish soap/warm water for like 25 mins and then toothbrush it quick and haven't had an issue yet

I've associated the smell of dish soap with this now and it's strange

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