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Bigsteve posted:What actually happens if my PSU isnt enough? Does it just bluescreen? Or does a portal to hell open up in my case? If it's a quality PSU, a breaker trips in the PSU and your PC shuts off. If it's a no-name 7 year old China special that came with your $50 case?....who knows. lovely PSUs have fried boards before, so that's a possibility, although it's not terribly likely. For the most part it just turns off.
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You can definitely get things like blue screen/crashes without full shutdown if things like the voltage sags too much under load. PSU problems can present tons of different ways.
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Bigsteve posted:What actually happens if my PSU isnt enough? Does it just bluescreen? Or does a portal to hell open up in my case? First you'll smell it: It will smell like electric heat, or like burning plastic. It may take several minutes for your nose to pick up these smells. The screen may flicker or display artifacts. Eventually a loud crack will be heard--this is the PSU breaking its watts barrier; if you look in your case at this time, you may notice sparks launching from the PSU. At this point, it is too late. Your best bet is to pull the power cable out of the computer, but the PSU will have enough electricity built up inside that even this may not be a solution; it may continue to spark and smolder. The PSU may vibrate or rattle, even after being disconnected from any power source. Your best bet is to immediately evacuate the room, because I've seen them explode like pipe bombs, throwing hot slag across the room that can burn in excess of 2,200 F. I've seen a PSU literally melt through the floor of a second story room.
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Bigsteve posted:What actually happens if my PSU isnt enough? Does it just bluescreen? Or does a portal to hell open up in my case? Wasn't easy to troubleshoot because it seemed like any regular shutoff, except it happened over the course of a second.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:First you'll smell it: It will smell like electric heat, or like burning plastic. It may take several minutes for your nose to pick up these smells. The screen may flicker or display artifacts. Eventually a loud crack will be heard--this is the PSU breaking its watts barrier; if you look in your case at this time, you may notice sparks launching from the PSU. At this point, it is too late. Your best bet is to pull the power cable out of the computer, but the PSU will have enough electricity built up inside that even this may not be a solution; it may continue to spark and smolder. The PSU may vibrate or rattle, even after being disconnected from any power source. Your best bet is to immediately evacuate the room, because I've seen them explode like pipe bombs, throwing hot slag across the room that can burn in excess of 2,200 F. I've seen a PSU literally melt through the floor of a second story room. Jesus christ, what are you doing that you're seeing PSUs turn into literal bombs?
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I've seen a PSU literally melt through the floor of a second story room. correction this is the worst case
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look, everyone has a fetish okay let the guy write fanfic it doesn't hurt anyone.
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Has someone pulled together the most recent leaked numbers and the historical ones and shown how 10x0 through 30x0 compare? Would be nice to have it in one chart.
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axeil posted:Jesus christ, what are you doing that you're seeing PSUs turn into literal bombs? I had one do this years ago when I built my 2nd ever computer - had a cheap Enermax case that came with a power supply & it died a few months into use. Powered up, hear a loud crack & saw sparks shoot out the power supply, I unplugged it as fast as humanly possible. Thankfully no chain reaction to other parts but that was the first & last time I ever used a PSU that came bundled with a cheap case...lol
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Bigsteve posted:What actually happens if my PSU isnt enough? Does it just bluescreen? Or does a portal to hell open up in my case? Might BSOD or the PSU might just turn off the machine without warning.
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Subjunctive posted:Has someone pulled together the most recent leaked numbers and the historical ones and shown how 10x0 through 30x0 compare? Would be nice to have it in one chart. Wait til Monday and we’ll be buried in a million charts and comparisons.
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Sphyre posted:slam buy the 3080 The Sphyre Promises are becoming Sphyre Threats.
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Subjunctive posted:Has someone pulled together the most recent leaked numbers and the historical ones and shown how 10x0 through 30x0 compare? Would be nice to have it in one chart.
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Bigsteve posted:What actually happens if my PSU isnt enough? Does it just bluescreen? Or does a portal to hell open up in my case? Untill today I ran an Rm550x with a Vega 64 which I undervolted. Every time there was a driver update it would refer to its default power-hungry settings. Sometimes I would forget to force the undervolt again but I'd get two helpful reminders:): 1) The very very loud buzzing noise coming from the PSU which I'm hoping was coil whine. 2) The occasional BSOD or sudden loss of complete power.
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Sharp announces 120 inch, 8K 120Hz display In case you needed something for your new RTX3090 to run. "Recommended pricing of the product has not been announced"
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AirRaid posted:Sharp announces 120 inch, 8K 120Hz display Note that it will also only do 8k or 120hz, not both at once, due to HDMI 2.1 bandwidth limitations.
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Incessant Excess posted:Note that it will also only do 8k or 120hz, not both at once, due to HDMI 2.1 bandwidth limitations. HDMI 2.1 can actually do up to 10k@120Hz. But you're right that the TV in question can do 4k@120Hz or 8k@60Hz. My guess is that the PHY boards to support 8k@120k haven't been made yet. But apparently Japan is targeting 8k@120Hz for the Olympics, so we'll probably see them trickling out in the near future (admittedly at astounding cost, no doubt).
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Taima posted:OLED or bust baby All I want for a monitor is 3440x1440 21:9 Oled, between 29 and 34 inches. I don't expect to see one produced for like 60 years. edit: or MicroLED instead of OLED, I'm not picky Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Found a 3090 listing on Newegg.ca. Quite the deal at $2,600+ CAD
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EK just announced a block for the FE cards, in addition to the reference block they already announced https://twitter.com/EKWaterBlocks/status/1304480184905732098
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Zero VGS posted:All I want for a monitor is 3440x1440 21:9 Oled, between 29 and 34 inches. I don't expect to see one produced for like 60 years. I could see consumer OLED monitors within a few years, lots of cool theoretical advances happening in that space! MicroLED is completely dead in the water for multiple reasons imo but we might get somewhat affordable consumer sizes in say 5-10 years.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:6.59% of surveyed Steam users are on 1440p that’s actually quite a large number considering Steam is dominated by laptops and net cafe PCs
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shrike82 posted:there's a reason why Nvidia is trying to make 8k gaming a thing 8k is such a waste of time, 33 megapixels is well beyond the point where spatial resolution hits diminishing returns I'd rather have 4k240/HDR 12 bit w/ full ray tracing
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repiv posted:EK just announced a block for the FE cards, in addition to the reference block they already announced I am so excited to get back into watercooling. I'm ignoring all blower chat and just planning on being liquid cooled on a 3080 or 3090. I actually realized I needed to get the ASUS M.2 breakout PCIe card for my plan of using U.2 NVMe Drives -> M.2 adapters to work correctly, as the mobo 1) has the heatsink covering the M.2 slots, 2) I wouldn't have had enough CPU PCIe lanes for all the drives otherwise. So, can't just go hog wild blocking up all the slots sadly.
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Malcolm XML posted:8k is such a waste of time, 33 megapixels is well beyond the point where spatial resolution hits diminishing returns 8K on a big projector might be good though!
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Paul MaudDib posted:that’s actually quite a large number considering Steam is dominated by laptops and net cafe PCs yep steam stats can't be taken at face value due to sampling bias
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Subjunctive posted:8K on a big projector might be good though! true whomst among us doesn't have an IMAX video dome?
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fuf posted:sorry this has probably been discussed to death and maybe there's no clear answer but do I really need to buy a 750w PSU for the 3080 or is 650w enough? if it's a high-quality 650W that can actually deliver 650W then it's fine. 3080 spec is 320W, your processor probably isn't pulling more than 200W, that gives you 130W of headroom.
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AirRaid posted:Sharp announces 120 inch, 8K 120Hz display Wow that thing barely weighs more than me at 454 lbs. What sort of VESA arm do you guys think I'll need??
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Malcolm XML posted:8k is such a waste of time, 33 megapixels is well beyond the point where spatial resolution hits diminishing returns Yeah, 8k on a monitor that sits ~24" away from my face is overkill. 8k would be baller for a large format TV, though, which is probably where it's gonna stay for a considerable while. People (apparently) are willing to pay $10k+ for a big rear end TV in a way that no one is for a monitor for non-medical-imaging use.
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shrike82 posted:https://i.imgur.com/qH5CV0i.mp4 what is this?
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repiv posted:EK just announced a block for the FE cards, in addition to the reference block they already announced Considering how short the PCB is I'm looking forward to seeing some extremely compact watercooled builds
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Rinkles posted:what is this? It's a PC being cooled by the $10,000 per liter 3M fluid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8LViTM5kM8
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Rinkles posted:what is this? two phase immersion cooling Spoiler: it gets everywhere and that fluid isn't that nice inside your lungs asetek makes a killing selling AIOs to datacenters since watercooling is so efficient
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Malcolm XML posted:8k is such a waste of time, 33 megapixels is well beyond the point where spatial resolution hits diminishing returns Yeah even 1440P is really pretty much a good sweet-spot overall but certainly at least 4K@140 HDR full ray tracing would be great and probably a solid plataeu. I really don't think 240hz wil make a difference because you really start getting serious diminishing returns after 120HZ too, but then again I haven't seen a 240 monitor in person. But yeah HDR seems like it would be nice, I dont follow tech poo poo much but is there a reason that HDR has been virtually non-existent on PCs?
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repiv posted:EK just announced a block for the FE cards, in addition to the reference block they already announced
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Indiana_Krom posted:Now what is left to see is how easily it is to remove the cooler from a FE card, and how it looks with the power connector at that funny angle. I'm already using a custom loop with a full cover block on my GTX 1080, and planning to upgrade to a 3080. I'm not in a hurry and can wait till stock stabilizes even into next year to see if any good options with full cover blocks preinstalled from the manufacturer show up, but good to know if I lose patience there will be a full cover block option for the FE cards if it comes to that. Apparently NVidia sent out nicely worded warnings to reviewers that if they intended to do teardowns, they needed to be "very careful" not to damage the cards. Considering that the 20-series FEs were a bear to work with, I don't think it's going to be any better this time around. Full cover blocks have already also been announced for AIB cards, though EK and co haven't specified which exact AIB cards will be supported yet. I'd expect we won't see the pre-installed full blocks from AIBs themselves for several months yet.
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