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Placer county removed its state of emergency declarion and forced the resignation of the County Health Officer.https://content.govdelivery.com/att...%202020-194.pdf I'm not super versed in legalese, but I am want to know if my interpretation of this is correct. 1) They gave authority to manage the state of emergency to the Health Director at the beginning of the year, but took it back this week. 2) The state of emergency is rescinded. 3) They added clauses about covid being a personal responsibility and each individual is responsible for their own risk. 4) CDC and statewide guidance is still in effect? (this is the main part I do not understand) It looks to me like all this does in effect is cut off state funding that we would have received by being declared an emergency. It also appears as though it absolves business owners, event planners, schools, etc of any legal liability or responsibility to follow any of the state guidelines, and grossly undermines workers rights. Am I correct? eSporks fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/ZavalaA/status/1304504802303332353quote:BREAKING: Gov. Newsom signs law allowing inmate firefighters in California to have records expunged, clearing the way for them to become professional firefighters once they are released from prison.
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Sep 11, 2020 21:22
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wow right on time NOT lmao 
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"Where did you get your firefighting experience? Can you provide me a reference?" "uhhhhh....." Wow it's great that we expunged them surely they'll get hired by FD's now with no discrimination
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eSporks posted:It looks to me like all this does in effect is cut off state funding that we would have received by being declared an emergency. It also appears as though it absolves business owners, event planners, schools, etc of any legal liability or responsibility to follow any of the state guidelines, and grossly undermines workers rights. I just read it through, all this does is suspend their local orders, which means state orders are now controlling. They don't have the authority to indemnify local schools or business owners to ignore state orders about closures and they say as much in the second to last paragraph, where they declare that all state orders remain in effect. Most of the rest of the declaration is just a historical rundown and some whining about the state government being mean to them.
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Sep 11, 2020 22:02
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Wicked Them Beats posted:I just read it through, all this does is suspend their local orders, which means state orders are now controlling. They don't have the authority to indemnify local schools or business owners to ignore state orders about closures and they say as much in the second to last paragraph, where they declare that all state orders remain in effect. Most of the rest of the declaration is just a historical rundown and some whining about the state government being mean to them.
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Jaxyon posted:"Where did you get your firefighting experience? Can you provide me a reference?" lol exactly do better with your loving supermajority. guarantee these people jobs
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Jaxyon posted:"Where did you get your firefighting experience? Can you provide me a reference?" dont worry the white ones will be hired 
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Sep 11, 2020 22:13
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eSporks posted:Weird. It's being reported by most local news as them challenging Gavin Newsoms tyranny over our rights as citizens and small business owners. Or that's what most of the quotes from the council are saying. I haven't read the reporting on it, just the resolution you linked, but they have no legal authority to do any of that. That your local yahoos are grandstanding about how they're totally leading the New American Revolution on behalf of their right to get COVID isn't all that surprising, it's not like they can do anything but grandstand. I guess they could also refuse to enforce the state orders locally, though the resolution you linked doesn't mention that. And even if they did take that step it doesn't stop the state from sending its own enforcement in if it feels like fining people/businesses. Here's where you can see what is and isn't allowed to open: https://covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy/ Edit: and even if the county board is saying it won't enforce, are they backed by mayors? City councils? The county DA? The county board isn't all powerful and there are a bunch of other elected officials who may or may not play along with this. Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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eSporks posted:Weird. It's being reported by most local news as them challenging Gavin Newsoms tyranny over our rights as citizens and small business owners. Or that's what most of the quotes from the council are saying. It's just like the vote from the powerless Orange County Board of Education a couple of months ago saying that students should return immediately to in-class teaching, COVID is overblown, and masks and social distancing are harmful. It meant nothing. It was just conservative performance art.
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I think the biggest impact will just be the general confusion created. I just looked up articles and they all have headlines like "Placer County Ends Public Health Order" or similar, so there are going to be a bunch of people who see that and think that everything is back to normal even though there are still several state orders that are still active. Expect to see even more maskless idiots during your next shopping trip.
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While it looks like a good thing this has a ton of caveats on it which boil down to "if the court you got sentenced in feels like it but if not that's cool too." Source.quote:This bill would allow a defendant who successfully participated in the California Conservation Camp Program or a county incarcerated individual hand crew as an incarcerated individual hand crew member, and has been released from custody, to petition to withdraw their plea of guilty or plea of nolo contendere and enter a plea of not guilty. The bill would make persons convicted of specified violent felonies and sex offenses ineligible for relief. The bill would allow the court, if the defendant is eligible for relief, to dismiss the accusations or information against the defendant at the court’s discretion and in the interest of justice and would release the defendant from all penalties and disabilities resulting from the offense, except as provided. In granting this relief, the bill would require the court to order the early termination of probation, parole, or supervised release if the court determines that the defendant has not violated any of the terms or conditions of their release during the pendency of the petition. quote:(b) (1) The defendant may file a petition for relief with the court in the county where the defendant was sentenced. The court shall provide a copy of the petition to the secretary, or, in the case of a county incarcerated individual hand crew member, the appropriate county authority. quote:(c) (1) If the requirements of this section are met, the court, in its discretion and in the interest of justice, may permit the defendant to withdraw the plea of guilty or plea of nolo contendere and enter a plea of not guilty, or, if the defendant has been convicted after a plea of not guilty, the court shall set aside the verdict of guilty, and, in either case, the court shall thereupon dismiss the accusations or information against the defendant and the defendant shall thereafter be released from all penalties and disabilities resulting from the offense of which the defendant has been convicted, except as provided in Section 13555 of the Vehicle Code.
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Yup, it's up to a judge, and the bill also allows time for the local DA's office to file objections. So expect most counties to have a Deputy DA assigned to challenge each and every one of these requests. And I mentioned it earlier in the thread but I'm certain there will be a strong racial element at play for who can actually get this relief.
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it looks like the main thing this law will do is force the state board in charge of licensing EMTs to allow anyone who can jump through the hoop of judge approval to qualify to take the exam apparently they otherwise make felons wait ten years, and you need your EMT license to be a firefighter
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But hey at least we're providing access to having your record expunged! 
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Wicked Them Beats posted:I think the biggest impact will just be the general confusion created. I just looked up articles and they all have headlines like "Placer County Ends Public Health Order" or similar, so there are going to be a bunch of people who see that and think that everything is back to normal even though there are still several state orders that are still active. This all just looks like horrible community relations and a lovely PR stunt. The board rep in my district, Kirk Uhler, has promoted conspiracy theories on twitter. He says that makes are dangerous, cause co2 build up, and regularly encourages people not to wear them. Hes in the bluest part of the county too! Some digging leads into a bunch of other shady poo poo about him, he took thousands in donations from real estate developers during a year he ran unopposed. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article245609865.html quote:Gore said that businesses and residents are still obligated to follow state COVID rules, but she said the county does not intend to enforce those rules itself, even if it receives complaints from residents about businesses. It would be up to the state, Gore said, to step in if, for instance, the state believes a restaurant or hair salon is violating state rules or guidelines for operations. The Health Advisor also resigned over this. quote:Sisson’s resignation comes a day after Placer County was downgraded from the most state’s most restrictive level of coronavirus monitoring to the second most restrictive, allowing some businesses and schools to reopen. https://www.sacbee.com/community/roseville-placer/article245577155.html quote:“I want people to know that we care about people’s lives, but we also care about all the other effects that this pandemic has had and this shutdown has had on the lives of our community,” Gore said. “These numbers do not warrant a local health emergency. They do not. And if we don’t say something to the governor, if we don’t stand up and say this is not correct, who else can do that?” As far the city, doubtful. Roseville is fairly large suburb right outside of Sacramento. Last week during the city council meeting the Mayor went on a rant about how the covid restrictions are too confusing and one day its this, one day its that, and how somebody in charge needs to make up their minds so the public can know whats going on. (hello, you are in charge!) From the very beginning they have been really flippant too. Back in april they wanted to hold an outdoor concert, but not call it concert. If we call it something else, it will be ok. UHG. This place sucks. I will say a lot of businesses have done OK, we finally put outdoor seating patios in downtown. The people suck though, lots of pickups with trump and confederate flags and mask compliance is only about 75% and tons of soccer moms are still lining up outside pilates. eSporks fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:a+ moves from the Newsom social media team, i am in awe Corporations and wildfires dump more CO2 into the air every quarter than all the cars in the world combined.
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Sydin posted:There are far better points I could make about how loving stupid everything about that is, but instead I'm just imagining the PG&E power infrastructure in 10 years trying to handle this gigantic influx of FEV's and Every year PG&E loses another lawsuit. The judgement is put on hold pending the outcome of the following year’s lawsuit. Wall St. securitizes the payouts for pennies on the dollar. Traders create a secondary derivatives market leveraging the original judgements 100x. Governor Reid Hoffman guarantees the stability of the PG&E settlement market after it crashes following a particularly wet winter caused by the collapse of the jet steam. CalPERS reinvests the majority of its funds in the now AAA-rated settlement market. The CPUC allows PG&E to file claims directly against retirement funds, mortgages, and savings accounts to pay for safety and infrastructure fees paid out as bonuses to executives. Lyft and Uber pay their Valued Driver Affiliates in energy credits at one of the PG&E public energy facilities set up after the backlash from the first full calendar year of blackouts. Governor Logan Paul reorganizes the police national guard under CAL FIRE to carpet bomb tent cities who continue to defy the state’s ban on grilling and heating fires without appropriate carbon offsets. The California Supreme Court upholds the move as a valid response to infringement on the energy rights of Facebook and its server farms. Chief Justice Elon Musk writes the majority opinion. Enigma89 defends the decision.
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bawfuls posted:We don’t want anyone to make money in real estate. Just like we don’t want people to make money on healthcare. It’s a basic human need, it should be decomodified.
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NWS Bay Area is a surprisingly excellent Twitter account, as I've learned in recent weeks.
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Did you see when Phoenix NWS was taunting them?
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No! That sounds funny, if you have the link handy.
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https://twitter.com/NWSPhoenix/status/1302924959329574913 It's a thread; don't just read the one.
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literally unbelievable https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1304503083968331776 someone really ought to do something. great photo btw. so, what do you do for a living?
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Doc Hawkins posted:so, what do you do for a living? Construct a biography suitable for a presidential candidate
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Doc Hawkins posted:literally unbelievable "Living" is taking a bit of license when referring to GovBot over here.
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Doc Hawkins posted:literally unbelievable Digging the jacket, though.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:https://twitter.com/NWSPhoenix/status/1302924959329574913 I don't need to read past the first, since this hardly the first time Berkeley has been over 90F. It's stupid posturing.
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hahaha libs get ownd cali burns *dies of 130 degree induced heat exhaustion in 5 years on a potato farm in Nebraska *
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Doc Hawkins posted:literally unbelievable If you're gonna just do vanity photos Newsom give us something to look at, take your shirt off
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xcheopis posted:I don't need to read past the first, since this hardly the first time Berkeley has been over 90F. It's stupid posturing. 96 degrees at 4am in Berkeley is not normal
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Rah! posted:96 degrees at 4am in Berkeley is not normal I didn't say it was.
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adoration for none posted:If you're gonna just do vanity photos Newsom give us something to look at, take your shirt off nice try, but he only takes pic-framing advice from his team of highly trained maintenance technicians
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xcheopis posted:I didn't say it was. you sure did brush it off like its no big deal lol
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Rah! posted:you sure did brush it off like its no big deal lol No, I brushed off the idiotic posturing.
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:We need radical public solutions to forestry and wildfire prevention. If only there was a way to free up significant money at state and local levels that could be reallocated for this by defunding any agencies that are extremely unpopular and/or murderous... Yeah but then how are we supposed to get
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That's a super heavy military and vet district in San Diego, and the challenger lost in 2018 by a fair amount.
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