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My greek orthodox wife killed my dwarf brother in broad daylight during one of my feasts.
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Basque high partition isn't bad. I started as a dude who has a whole intrigue tree unlocked already and it was fairly easy to seduce court members and use them in plots murder my vassals until I started inheriting everything lol
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Sep 13, 2020 05:34
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I just realized that I almost have the territory for a second empire title. Since it's such a big deal I want to confirm: if I switched to normal Partition I can hold all this territory and as long as I don't create the second empire title it will keep everything within the realm on succession right?
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Sep 13, 2020 05:37
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Mister Olympus posted:Some religions seem to just cost 250 piety to swap to in certain situations regardless of how different they are in doctrines. Is it a thing with holy sites maybe? If hindu to zoroastrian has it, it can't be something to do with unreformed to reformed. Excelzior posted:mouseover and itll tell you the modifiers. Yeah, for reference these are my current modifiers:  The fervor of my ruler's current religion is at 75%, which is about average, and her learning is 63, which is very high, but the biggest discounts are stuff that are generally easy to get - apostate is just a thing you'll want for any character who you plan to convert religions with and is only 3 points deep in the scholar tree, pluralist is something that all hindu and buddhist faiths have, and the "existing religion" bonus is just because it's not considered a "dead" religion by the game (even though nobody is following it - I think this is just a pre-designated thing for things like Hellenism or Zunism). The cost would likely be higher when converting from one of the Muslim faiths because it would be converting into a different religious family (which is double the penalty of "different religion") and only a couple of them are pluralist. So your best bet for playing as a zoroastrian is either picking one of the counts that starts with it, swearing fealty to a neighbour before they try to invade you and hoping you can take them over from the inside before they try to convert you or get enough crown authority to revoke your titles, or starting as a Buddhist/Hindu character in India and converting there - Eastern faiths only consider each other "Astray" so you are safe from being holy warred by your neighbours.
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Sep 13, 2020 05:39
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Sep 13, 2020 05:44
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Hahaha I'd be forced to agree for the sheer audacity
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Sep 13, 2020 05:50
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blue squares posted:War sucks rear end in this game. It’s inexcusably bad ya
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Sep 13, 2020 05:56
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Apparently I'm have dissociate disorder because i'm sending threatening letters to myself. Also why are some of my provinces glowing purple?
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Sep 13, 2020 06:00
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twistedmentat posted:Apparently I'm have dissociate disorder because i'm sending threatening letters to myself. Usually means the vassal holding it is having a war with someone.
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Sep 13, 2020 06:12
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Well I've just had a bit of a hoisted by my own petard moment: Isfahan (the Persian Empire) there is a kingdom I deliberately cultivated - I holy warred for the kingdom of Persia from the original holders, gave it to my son, and once they had stablized control I released it and just let it grow. We've been best friends ever since, and they've been growing like crazy in the meantime. So all good right? Except I just noticed a tiny, inconsequential piece of my realm has broken away because even at absolute crown authority the "no inheritance outside your realm" thing seems bugged. Well no big deal, it's just a single county I can reconquer that no problem, let's just zoom in a bit and see who it went to-  Well poo poo. (I could win this war pretty easily - nobody has troop counts anywhere near my own - Isfahan is the second biggest realm in the world right now and they only have about 35k to my 70k, but still it's gonna be a real slog. I suppose I could just let it go but well, pretty borders. I also just noticed a second bit that broke away, a tiny blue section that went to Ü, another kingdom I deliberately cultivated, but they're way weaker so that's not going to be much of a fight. I do have to wait out alliances with both realms before I do anything though since as I mentioned, I was trying to spread my dynasty around so I've been helping them win their wars)
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Sep 13, 2020 06:23
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How do I get allies which I can call into wars? I get marriages and alliances that way, but rarely can I convince people to help me out. e: goddamn this game is hard. all my vassals suddenly demanded independence as soon as my successor took over.they were fine beforehand, did i miss anything? buglord fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Sep 13, 2020 06:36
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buglord posted:How do I get allies which I can call into wars? I get marriages and alliances that way, but rarely can I convince people to help me out. If your allies are your own vassals, you can't call them into wars (they are already contributing via the levies they give to you for being vassals). This is still useful to do because vassals who are your allies cannot join factions against you. If your allies are vassals of your war target, you cannot call them into that war because they would be fighting against their own liege. I believe that if they rebel against their liege on their own however, they can call you in to help, which could be useful if you want to weaken that realm. To make alliances that will be generally useful in your own wars, you need to get alliances with independent rulers. The ones that get suggested by the marriage finder are often not independent, it's just looking for "whoever is available". Independent rulers tend to be very quick to marry off their kids so you can more reliably get alliances with them by setting up betrothals with their youngest children. Sometimes they just won't have anyone available and there's not really anything you can do about that except just look around for other rulers to potentially ally with. buglord posted:e: goddamn this game is hard. all my vassals suddenly demanded independence as soon as my successor took over.they were fine beforehand, did i miss anything? You didn't do anything wrong, this is just the normal succession process. There is a significant relation bonus for having a long reign, and there is also a relation penalty for a short reign, so the combination of losing the former and gaining the latter means that a brand new ruler will often be faced with a bunch of vassals who absolutely hate their guts even if they liked the previous ruler. You can manage them a little bit by sticking the powerful vassals on the council, but it might not be enough to make them happy. This is where it's a good time to try to set up alliances with your own vassals - even if they hate you, they might be willing to arrange a marriage between one of their kids and yours (the "opinion" factor can easily be outweighed by others) and this prevents them from joining factions as mentioned above. Doing this with your most powerful vassals might not prevent the uprising entirely, but it will weaken it enough that it makes the resulting civil war much easier to win. The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Sep 13, 2020 06:53
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buglord posted:e: goddamn this game is hard. all my vassals suddenly demanded independence as soon as my successor took over.they were fine beforehand, did i miss anything? Nope. That's what they do. Succession crises are a huge aspect of the game to deal with.
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Sep 13, 2020 06:54
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Hellioning posted:I think it's a D&D character of one of the devs; you'll notice her dynasty quote is something obviously joking. ("We'll be immortal until we die" or something like that.)
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Sep 13, 2020 07:16
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Not joining a crusade caused everyone to hate me and then drink myself to death (and it was a stupid, stupid crusade---for a single county in Syria, when Catholicism already owned all the rest of Syria. Also, the Catholics lost.) Now playing as the son of mine without any marriageable heirs, I have decided "gently caress Catholicism" and joined Insular Christianity as soon as it popped up, because people are always converting. Now, I can just make alliances by adding three additional wives. (Well, two alliances. For the third extra wife I found an amazonian lady floating around) I should have thought of this earlier. Stupid Crusades never did poo poo for me.
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Sep 13, 2020 07:16
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What determines Guest recruitment cost? Sometimes it's like 20 gold and other times it's 250+?
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Sep 13, 2020 07:53
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I think it's mostly based on your monthly income, with modifiers based on the skills/usefulness of the guest.
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Sep 13, 2020 08:12
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Ms Adequate posted:Usually means the vassal holding it is having a war with someone. That makes sense. My vassels seem like they're constantly at war with each other. I've formed Austria into a Kingdom but in the process i gained some trible lands. Even after encouraging them to become Bavarian cultures they're still living in waddle and daub huts in muddy streets.
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Sep 13, 2020 08:14
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:What determines Guest recruitment cost? Sometimes it's like 20 gold and other times it's 250+? I think it's mostly affected by claims they have. No claims are generally pretty cheap, but if they have anything it goes up to 100+. Also re: the combat outcome predictions mentioned earlier, I got a screenshot of a pretty extreme example of how wrong they can be. The prediction:  The battle:  This is a very extreme example because my army is entirely MAA and a ton of knights who are all incredibly buffed by various buildings I have (I have 33 knights with 255% effectivenes) and I think the game doesn't consider these factors when judging combat effectiveness, so there are times when you just kind of have to learn how to feel it out about whether you can win or not.
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Sep 13, 2020 08:21
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Formed Russia only to then find out character based achievements don't currently work, that's frustrating. Got a bunch of other good ones though in the process including Trapped in the Web that only 0.3% have, so I'm cool with that.
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Sep 13, 2020 08:33
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Re: Zoroastrian talk: Khazaria is by far the most terrifying part of my Zoroastrian campaign.  They are frighteningly stable. The scary part is that I'm not allowed to marry them, so an alliance is out of the question. They also don't want me as a vassal (I need to sway them first). Here's hoping it works out somehow... edit: why on earth is my son wandering around in india, and how can i get him back 
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Sep 13, 2020 08:35
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Actually after looking at fervor slightly more closely, it's actually ping-ponging wildly. When I started the session it was at 10%, a few years later it had shot up 100%, and a few years after that it was back down to 43%. Nothing particularly major happened during those years  Also I really think the game would be better off if your religion would only call Great Holy Wars for Kingdoms containing Holy Sites of that Religion. There were too many Slovenskan Wars for Sicily this game.
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Sep 13, 2020 08:37
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Anyone else have the Scandinavian Elective Decision bug out? For some reason, it would never go away. I was Emperor of Sweden and King of four other countries, all of them had said law already enacted. By the decision was still available, and I could keep on spending 300 prestige for the opinion bonus, but it didn't seem to go away no matter how many times I did it.
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Sep 13, 2020 08:51
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Oh hey, there's a monstro Khazaria on my map too (Edit actually no they just have a big name because they snaked across the map their actual power is in the toilet lol) My Grey Eminence's plans were cut short because he somehow died of gangrene I didn't know he even had at age 35. His son was a Brilliant Strategist but I couldn't see anything in the Martial trees that would be too useful for me right now. I picked up the casus belli discount, the siege bonus, and the increase control bonus before ducking back into Diplomacy -- that is way too useful for stabilizing the empire, I just keep going back to that when things are good (and intrigue when things are bad). Being Just Compassionate Calm means his diplo bonus is actually way higher than even his education. Too bad about the lifestyle XP. I also had a weird event storyline where one of my champions turned out to be a serial killer... he was my second-highest prowess at 25, too. This map is starting to get spicy. I basically absorbed the Manso kingdom that was cutting my empire in half. Ghana, Sahara, and Nubia are extremely weak, and each of them is a buffer between me and the Umayyads, the Byzantines, and the Nasraddin, who are all way more powerful than me... I hope diplomacy will come in handy. Or maybe I'll have to go back to the martial tree soon enough...
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Sep 13, 2020 08:53
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Something I'm yet to see are any historical events. Admittedly most of the ones I know of are based on certain people being in certain places at the time, but are there any hard coded events that will happen outside of Mongol invasions?
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Sep 13, 2020 08:57
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Byzantines having hacked-in Primogeniture while everyone around them is dealing with Confederate Partition is a pretty absurd leg up in the long run, it seems. First flavor pack should bring back imperial elective but more historical, where every succession has an increasing chance for poo poo to just completely explode into civil war again. e: Special mechanic with an inverse relationship between how many wars you win and how many children you can ever produce to simulate Basil II
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Sep 13, 2020 08:59
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What would happen if an independent non-player ruler with no heir died? Does the game just generate a new one, like with baronies?
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Sep 13, 2020 09:08
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Hipster Occultist posted:Anyone else have the Scandinavian Elective Decision bug out? For some reason, it would never go away. I was Emperor of Sweden and King of four other countries, all of them had said law already enacted. By the decision was still available, and I could keep on spending 300 prestige for the opinion bonus, but it didn't seem to go away no matter how many times I did it. The decision has stayed with me since the beginning of the game and shows no signs of going away, no matter how many times it's used. I guess it's so that you have an easy way to keep Scandinavian Elective as you conquer new stuff?
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Sep 13, 2020 09:10
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Mister Olympus posted:Byzantines having hacked-in Primogeniture while everyone around them is dealing with Confederate Partition is a pretty absurd leg up in the long run, it seems. First flavor pack should bring back imperial elective but more historical, where every succession has an increasing chance for poo poo to just completely explode into civil war again. The Byzantines would need a bigger DLC to do them justice than just a flavour pack. They really need a fully fleshed out hierarchical bureaucratic system that could ideally be re-used for the inevitable China expansion as well as the ability for a house to own non-militarised holdings.
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Sep 13, 2020 09:16
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Woo, successfully restored Hellenic paganism in ironman, using the NK mode trick with a temporal religion to accumulate insane piety from owning tons of temples. After that, it was a two-step conversion process - first convert to unreformed taltosism (which can be done relatively cheaply because you can have it in your domain), then a second conversion to hellenic paganism (which is significantly cheaper if you're starting out as an unreformed pagan).
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Sep 13, 2020 09:36
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Uh... did I just get Tinder scammed, I picked a wife with 18 Stewardship because that looked cool and also she was a duchess, but I didn't look deeper than that and?  The duchy has no land and the line of succession includes only her two champions, who are also the entirety of her army. She also has no family on record? Because she is a "landholder" I can't get her help in my court which is why I married her in the first place lol, where is she
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Sep 13, 2020 09:51
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I forgot to forbid my son and heir, who had poo poo stats except for very high learning, from battle. I only realized he was fighting due to the blademaster event popping. And I couldn't forbid him from fighting now that he was a blademaster!! After a glorious war where he chopped off many heads, about five minutes after the truce was signed. . . he died of pneumonia.
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Sep 13, 2020 09:59
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Because she is a "landholder" I can't get her help in my court which is why I married her in the first place lol, where is she You should be able to find where she is by right clicking on her and choosing the location button at the top right. But knowing where she is and getting her back are different things entirely. If you can't fight for her counties, maybe you can get a divorce.
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Sep 13, 2020 10:14
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Oh dear me posted:You should be able to find where she is by right clicking on her and choosing the location button at the top right. But knowing where she is and getting her back are different things entirely. If you can't fight for her counties, maybe you can get a divorce.  lol literally nothing happens when I click that button, normally with every other character it tells you their location when you hover over it but there's nothing here. Also the other screen would have said which counties were part of "Dembid" and it says there's nothing. I even googled the name to see if i could find it on the map and nothing came up
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Sep 13, 2020 10:23
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Retroblique posted:Interesting random character find: Get Her dynasty going, get her or a dynastic heir be a crusade benefactor. switch and play.
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Sep 13, 2020 10:27
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The ability to redirect crusades is great. I don't know why they popped up in 900, but I do know that we're not going to Jerusalem. All that piety I got from punching Vikings in the face? Take it, we're ending the Norse threat at the root and making my daughter the Queen of Denmark.
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Sep 13, 2020 10:36
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:
I had this problem but figured it out when I saw more of them pop up. She inherited a mercenary company that disbanded. Some of these other phantom duchies will be named lice mercenaries are.
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Sep 13, 2020 10:45
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Mister Olympus posted:I had this problem but figured it out when I saw more of them pop up. She inherited a mercenary company that disbanded. Some of these other phantom duchies will be named lice mercenaries are. That probably explains some of the weird mystery realms that pop up sometimes with names like "The Riders of (blank)". Probably a similar thing where someone inherited a mercenary company that disbanded, but kept the title, passing it along until eventually someone inherits it and it becomes their top-level title because it's a duchy and they are only a count.
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Sep 13, 2020 10:49
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Holy crap. Are you protected from disaster during the tutorial? Because I just had one massive Norway invasion interrupted by a nephew stealing the target city and the invaders leaving in a huff. Then, during my ill-conceived attempt to retake the city, that same nephew DIED mid-war when they had me against the ropes, thus immediately splitting his armies between his sons (or something. I was extremely confused but 2k troops just changed flag and left). As a result I easily beat the remaining 300 troops or whatever, vassalized the son together with the city they had stolen and THEN used his claims on his father's territories to grab that too. To be honest I'm not even sure what happened but I went from peace to thinking I'd become a norwegian vassal to king of Ireland in the span of like two months. Also my entire family got captured during the process and I only managed to release them by taking that last territory originally belonging to my nephew. poo poo was wild. I'm so confused.
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Sep 13, 2020 10:52
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Uh... did I just get Tinder scammed, I picked a wife with 18 Stewardship because that looked cool and also she was a duchess, but I didn't look deeper than that and? Hmm, an unwanted spouse with 0 intrigue...
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