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142 | 20.91% |
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30 | 4.42% |
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62 | 9.13% |
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171 | 25.18% |
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60 | 8.84% |
| Non-vascular plants are the best! |
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31 | 4.57% |
| Screw you, I'd rather eat them! |
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183 | 26.95% |
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Kaiser Schnitzel posted:Tree 9 and 15 are I believe both Buddleia. Tree 11 is a Mahonia/oregon grape. I think Tree 1 is some sort of Prunus/stone fruit/cherry Sour cherry - Prunus cerasus is what the app says, but trying to do it from photos is giving me a headache so I'll go back out and try it in person tomorrow. Ok Comboomer posted:I am obligated by my research PI to tell you to load them up on iNaturalist. You'll get a bunch of responses in short enough order Is this a "we enjoy doing this sort of thing" place?
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Sep 13, 2020 18:16
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Tree 1 is some kind of cherry. Tree 11 might be in the Mahonia genus. 14 is fuckin dead. I feel bad for tree 8. It kinda looks like a catalpa, but could be any broad leaf. That blackberry is going to be fun to get rid of but it'll be worth it to rescue all the trees.
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Sep 13, 2020 18:16
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Jaded Burnout posted:Sour cherry - Prunus cerasus is what the app says, but trying to do it from photos is giving me a headache so I'll go back out and try it in person tomorrow. Do you remember if tree 7 has flowers, probably in spring/early summer? Specifically white ones that may (or may not) be fragrant? The growth habit/bark and maybe leaves look like Philadelphus/mock orange/English dogwood E: looks like tree 13 may be more of the same?
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Sep 13, 2020 18:33
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13 is Philadelphus, probably coronarius. Worth waiting for some of them to flower before deciding on if you want to keep them or not I haven't the time right now, but maybe tomorrow I could get a good number of them.
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Sep 13, 2020 19:09
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Ok, I have a cheese sandwich and five mins. 7 is a big ol' Weigela. This screams "Grandma's garden" to me, so I'm guessing nothing too unusual for southeast England Edit:. 14 is....dead? Most of them seem to be Buddleia, Weigela, maybe I saw a Kolkwitzia and some Lilacs. RickRogers fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Sep 13, 2020 |
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Sep 13, 2020 19:16
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RickRogers posted:Ok, I have a cheese sandwich and five mins. It was indeed previously owned by a grandma.
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Sep 13, 2020 19:24
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Jaded Burnout posted:It was indeed previously owned by a grandma. Yeah hope that wasn't insensitive. I do actually appreciate the grandmas, their often overgrown gardens and their constant supply of coffee and biscuits.
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Sep 13, 2020 19:29
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Jaded Burnout posted:Sour cherry - Prunus cerasus is what the app says, but trying to do it from photos is giving me a headache so I'll go back out and try it in person tomorrow. Oh yeah, field biologists and birders do this poo poo for fun. Like, literally drink beers or get pizza with lab and do iNaturalist. It’s a serious citizen science project. The anorak-y dudes who manage the databases are 1) dedicated pros, 2) students/postdocs managing their pet taxa/being pressured to be involved by their bosses 3) hardcore lay folk
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Sep 13, 2020 19:34
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RickRogers posted:Yeah hope that wasn't insensitive. I do actually appreciate the grandmas, their often overgrown gardens and their constant supply of coffee and biscuits. Not my grandma  The woman who owned it before me owned it for 60 years, and honestly I wrecked it with renovation work when I moved in. What's left now is just what was sidelined enough to avoid the diggers, though I was quite miffed that the apple tree that was front and center "fell down" in suspicious circumstances between me buying the property and moving in.
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Sep 13, 2020 19:56
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Hooray for Grandmas then. No. 3, I am pretty sure, at least the flowers jump out at me, is European spindle, or Euyonymus europaeus. It has rather poisonous fruits! Not great if you have young children. Good if you wish to make pointy sticks. Some old gardener told me that you could get mild contact poisoning from it. 
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Sep 13, 2020 20:10
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Ok Comboomer posted:Oh yeah, field biologists and birders do this poo poo for fun. Like, literally drink beers or get pizza with lab and do iNaturalist. Donezo.
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Sep 13, 2020 20:10
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RickRogers posted:Hooray for Grandmas then. I knew that looked familiar! The North America Euyonymus americanus looks very similar. Deer love to eat them. I the wood of the european one got used for inlay work a good bit too.
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Sep 13, 2020 20:25
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Pepper question: I planted some of these: https://peppergeek.com/sugar-rush-peach-peppers, but too late, and only one of them has ripened so far with lots of them yellow on the plant. I don't know when our first frost will be (near Boston), but it's likely to be in the next month, and I doubt the rest will have ripened in time. I know you can pick bell peppers when they are green and they're fine to eat (if not as sweet), but what about hot peppers?
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Sep 13, 2020 21:27
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Petey posted:Pepper question: I planted some of these: https://peppergeek.com/sugar-rush-peach-peppers, but too late, and only one of them has ripened so far with lots of them yellow on the plant. I don't know when our first frost will be (near Boston), but it's likely to be in the next month, and I doubt the rest will have ripened in time. yes same, but they will be acidic tasting and not so good. You can bring a plant indoors, but to hasten ripening I'd remove most of the leaves and allow more airflow
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Sep 14, 2020 12:50
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1 is beech, 8 looks like it could be Hazel 10 is some kind of Laurel, maybe Portuguese, but I think it’d have fruits right now. 11 is some kind of holly 12 I think might be a Hydrangea Budleias are correctly IDed. Maybe try one of the ID apps for your phone as suggested. Good luck, it took me about 8 months to id a tree in my garden. Edit: 5 is Linden I think. And 14 is dead so it matters not much. wooger fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Sep 14, 2020 14:15
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I've been trying out various id apps and they're inconsistent enough that who knows. The good UK one is focused on wild species so a but useless to me. I think the takeaway I have is I'm going to nuke the lot and start afresh, except maybe the big tall one at the back since it's so well established, but the building regulations people might make me take that out anyway.
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Sep 14, 2020 14:52
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Jaded Burnout posted:I've been trying out various id apps and they're inconsistent enough that who knows. The good UK one is focused on wild species so a but useless to me. I think we really got them all though, at least genus-wise. Good news is there isn't anything """"special""""" to preserve imo, unless you have a weird cultivar that people stopped producing, or you count the spindle. At least it was good fun plant IDing. Look forward to your " what the hell do I plant here" post!
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Sep 14, 2020 17:43
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RickRogers posted:I think we really got them all though, at least genus-wise. Good news is there isn't anything """"special""""" to preserve imo, unless you have a weird cultivar that people stopped producing, or you count the spindle. At least it was good fun plant IDing. Thanks for the assistance! Was much appreciated.
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Sep 14, 2020 17:51
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Mofette posted:6, 9 and 15 are buddleia. Butterflies love them but I loathe them (despite my garden being planted for our winged friends) Buddleia are super invasive in SE England. You'll see tons of them in railway cuts if you look out the window next time you're riding a train. Some butterflies love them, but their destructive impact on butterfly habitat makes them not worthwhile. I would cut them down to the ground and paint the stumps with glyphosate.
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Sep 14, 2020 17:53
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Buddleia are super invasive in SE England. You'll see tons of them in railway cuts if you look out the window next time you're riding a train. Some butterflies love them, but their destructive impact on butterfly habitat makes them not worthwhile. I would cut them down to the ground and paint the stumps with glyphosate. There are small sterile cultivars now, worth planting for the wildlife maybe.
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Sep 14, 2020 17:56
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I'll be putting some stuff in for insects, but honestly I dislike them too. I'm sure I can find better alternatives. Painting the stumps shouldn't be a problem; I don't plan on leaving any.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:24
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Mofette posted:yes same, but they will be acidic tasting and not so good. You can bring a plant indoors, but to hasten ripening I'd remove most of the leaves and allow more airflow wait what does removing leaves do?
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Sep 15, 2020 00:58
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RickRogers posted:There are small sterile cultivars now, worth planting for the wildlife maybe. Or, you know, you could look up some plants that are indigenous to your area and actually preferred by the local wildlife? Incidentally, tree 11 looks a little like Oregon grape. Does it put on clusters of blue, slightly grape-like berries? If so those are tart but make good jam. Edit: yeah I see Kaiserschnitzel concurs. It's kinda funny seeing that growing in SE England. I just killed a holly bush in my garden (they're pretty invasive in the Pacific NW) and planted some Oregon grape instead, since they are indigenous here. Lead out in cuffs fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Sep 15, 2020 |
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Sep 15, 2020 07:44
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Or, you know, you could look up some plants that are indigenous to your area and actually preferred by the local wildlife? I said 'maybe'. South East England is not like the states, there is no real wilderness and national parks are small and fragmented. That leaves the house gardens to use whatever they can to get insect numbers up. I concur that trying to use indigenous plants is nice, and in areas some areas necessary. But being realistic, that biodiversity in England has reduced dramatically since the ice age, that overzealous planting of native species in suburban house gardens only has caused problems. We have, for example, nearly wiped out swallowtail butterflies in England. In mainland Europe they are doing ok. There is only one plant in England they feed on and Europe has a number, which used to be native but retreated as the climate changed.
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Sep 15, 2020 12:33
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Jaded Burnout posted:I'll be putting some stuff in for insects, but honestly I dislike them too. I'm sure I can find better alternatives. The only one I would consider keeping would be tree 11, the mahonia. With just a little pruning that would be a pretty nice big specimen, and they've got great flowers/fruits. Very interesting looking plant, and its always nice to have something bloom in the late winter and early spring.
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Sep 16, 2020 11:05
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Petey posted:wait what does removing leaves do? Causes the plant to direct more energy into the fruit. You're stopping the main growing point, and the plant will search for somewhere else to put the power, so the fruit will absorb most of it, which will cause it to swell and ripen more quickly Hate that I missed the plant ID party. Considering the other plants, I'm pretty surprised there isn't a viburnum of some sort in there somewhere but I can't find one Also Jaded Burnout I would cut back 12 when you get rid of everything but not stump grind it yet. The color of the foliage looks real promising to me, and while I'm not ready to hang my hat on hydrangea, it could be something that would otherwise be cool but has been overshadowed and etoliated by the other plants. A clean up might go a long way!
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Sep 16, 2020 11:37
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Oil of Paris posted:The only one I would consider keeping would be tree 11, the mahonia. With just a little pruning that would be a pretty nice big specimen, and they've got great flowers/fruits. Very interesting looking plant, and its always nice to have something bloom in the late winter and early spring. Oil of Paris posted:Also Jaded Burnout I would cut back 12 when you get rid of everything but not stump grind it yet. The color of the foliage looks real promising to me, and while I'm not ready to hang my hat on hydrangea, it could be something that would otherwise be cool but has been overshadowed and etoliated by the other plants. A clean up might go a long way! Much appreciated, thanks! The only issue with keeping those two, is that they'd be sat between that fence and a new single storey building, so a) there might be foundation encroachment issues and b) they might actually get *less* sunlight. Perhaps since they're small they could be transplanted elsewhere in the garden? Edit: though now I look at images of flowering hydrangea I'm not sure it's for me. I'm not a fan of plants with big poofy flowers (see also Rhododendron). Jaded Burnout fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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Sep 16, 2020 12:52
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Fair enough on not liking hydrangea. Not totally willing to commit to that ID but it’s nbd to just tear it out if you don’t have the same curiosity lol The mahonia doesn’t mind shade at all, they’re naturally an understory plant and can do well even in deep shade (of course Maximum flowers and fruit prefer more sun). Never heard of the roots causing damage to structures, i think it’s root system is pretty flat and fine, rather shallow. can’t see it getting thick enough to be a threat if you decide to just leave it there
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Sep 16, 2020 14:24
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Alright, I'll give it some thought
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Sep 16, 2020 14:50
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Jaded Burnout posted:Edit: though now I look at images of flowering hydrangea I'm not sure it's for me. I'm not a fan of plants with big poofy flowers (see also Rhododendron). I'm happy I'm not the only person who just doesn't like hydrangea.
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Sep 16, 2020 15:08
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Has anyone shared this yet? Vampire’ parasite challenges the definition of a plant
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Sep 17, 2020 00:10
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Hubis posted:Has anyone shared this yet? reminds me of Monotropa uniflora
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Sep 17, 2020 01:50
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I love parasitic plants. Especially mycoheterotrophs! I couldn't tell from the linked article if the Langsdorffia species were direct parasite of other plant roots or if they were parasites of the mycorrhyizal (fungal) networks that grow on plant roots. Ghost pipes are my favorite to find although pinesap (Monotropa hypopitys) is pretty common around my neck of the woods as well. They're super small and usually have a particular tree they tend to grow nearby. This is the time of year to go look for them.
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Sep 17, 2020 02:05
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vonnegutt posted:I love parasitic plants. Especially mycoheterotrophs! I couldn't tell from the linked article if the Langsdorffia species were direct parasite of other plant roots or if they were parasites of the mycorrhyizal (fungal) networks that grow on plant roots. I really wish I could grow some ghost pipes but I'd guess the parasitic needs would make it pretty much impossible to do indoors. I lived too far south for them before and too far north now. 
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Sep 17, 2020 03:24
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They're pretty neat organisms. I've encountered some that look like a ghostly pinecone and I wish I took pictures when I came across it. It was growing at the base of a very large Douglas fir in an old growth forest. Super cool.
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Sep 17, 2020 03:44
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Wallet posted:I'm happy I'm not the only person who just doesn't like hydrangea. im not a huge fan of the puffball (Hydrangea arborescens) bc theyre pretty played out, but i loooove the native oakleaf (Hydrangea quercifolia), especially the ruby slippers cultivar. Spires instead of puffs, great transition from white to pink to red, then the slowly browning spires stay on for the rest of the season until you cut them off. And the fall colors of the leaves are very striking    
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Sep 17, 2020 10:01
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Petey posted:wait what does removing leaves do? Allows airflow and hastens ripening
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Sep 17, 2020 10:59
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I decided to move some pepper plants inside. There’s two (jalapeño and Trinidad perfume) that hadn’t really gotten there yet and I’m not gonna move the buckets inside, but I may try to grow smaller ones in pots. Would I be better served by taking cuttings and trying to root them, or by starting some new seeds?
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Sep 17, 2020 11:43
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I'm still sorting through all my photos of the butterfly garden and trying to identify what I can, and I'll definitely post here for advice after. You all have already been super helpful, because the lists of good butterfly garden plants you gave me showed me what to look for. I've already been able to identify a lot of what's there! For now, here's what it apparently looked like in 2014 when it was first planted and what it looks like now:   First priority is definitely going to be clearing more space for milkweed, which is there but has been pushed to the margins by spreading plants like cat mint and four-o-clocks. We have both common milkweed and swamp milkweed present, and there are some saved seeds in a shed somewhere too. Sounds like the best time to plant milkweed seeds is coming pretty soon. I'm also definitely going to aggressively prune back those huge buttonbushes on either side (research says late winter for that). I can't believe they weren't even there six years ago. showbiz_liz fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Sep 17, 2020 17:31
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Oh drat that is an awesome space and totally not what I pictured I'm here for this one... 
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