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I guess Cactus Jack was originally a Charlie Manson gimmick. And there was Pogo the Clown
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There was that time where Jim Neidhart came out as a KKK member on the indies to attack Virgil, though that probably falls more under the tasteless bracket like the Truth Commission.
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Wasn't Stone Cold supposed to be a serial killer? And Waylon Mercy?
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Lucha is full of that stuff. Charly Manson, La Nazi, etc.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Waylon Mercy? Waylon Mercy was basically a straight rip off of Max Cady so yeah.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Okay, so we cancelled our Network subscription a year or two ago and had stopped watching anything but NXT before that, so forgive me if this is a stupid question. What the gently caress is with all the dick kicking? I keep seeing results for world championship matches and it seems like there's been at least half a dozen times where one guy just kicked the other in the junk and then proceeded to have a non-match. How the hell is it a thing that keeps happening? Especially in a main event? vince thinks it's hilarious
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I would have been loving livid to get a main event like that back when PPVs were $30-$60
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Of the 3 different 6-man Dragon Gate matches had in Ring of Honor, which one was considered the best?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Okay, so we cancelled our Network subscription a year or two ago and had stopped watching anything but NXT before that, so forgive me if this is a stupid question. What the gently caress is with all the dick kicking? I keep seeing results for world championship matches and it seems like there's been at least half a dozen times where one guy just kicked the other in the junk and then proceeded to have a non-match. How the hell is it a thing that keeps happening? Especially in a main event? you can't run a feud with the same two people for six months if you give the WWE Universe clean finishes!!
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Sep 9, 2020 17:33
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Haven't dick kicks always been a thing?
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Sep 9, 2020 17:43
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Yes, but usually as a comedy spot and not as a match ender, at least not if it isn't the result of interference. Otherwise any heel could win any match by kicking the other guy in the balls whenever the ref's back is turned. You wouldn't have eye gouges, rope chokes, and a whole bunch of other heel tactics because why do that when you could win immediately with a kick to the balls? It's like the saying about how the only protected finisher in the WWE is the surprise rollup.
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Sep 9, 2020 17:48
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I mean Goldust was doing them forever, but I don't think they really became a thing as far as match finishes go until Undertaker punted Brock in the dick
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Sep 9, 2020 17:48
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Back in my day you forearmed an opponent in the dick, with class.
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Goldust did hit the Shattered Dreams, but not very often, and it wasn't always a match-ender even then. Well, sometimes it was a match-ender because he did it in full view of the ref and didn't care about taking the DQ. Has anyone done more forearm Low Blows than Chyna?
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Sep 9, 2020 18:07
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IIRC Ric Flair did a fair few of them.
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Sep 9, 2020 18:09
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Wasn't Stone Cold supposed to be a serial killer? And Waylon Mercy? Stone Cold was not supposed to be a serial killer, per se, but he designed the persona to evoke the personalities of some serial killers he'd researched.
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Nut Bunnies posted:Lucha is full of that stuff. Charly Manson, La Nazi, etc. Chessman
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TUS posted:Of the 3 different 6-man Dragon Gate matches had in Ring of Honor, which one was considered the best? this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeKPZpA2fWQ
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Speaking of which, wasn't Nakamura disqualified for all his dick kicks while the white folks won main event championship matches at Wrestlemania with them?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Speaking of which, wasn't Nakamura disqualified for all his dick kicks while the white folks won main event championship matches at Wrestlemania with them? Yes, because at the end of the day [Vince]a sneaky yellow shouldn't be allowed to hold the top title, and the unifanverse thinks they like him but they actually like what I tell them to like and if a ching chong holds the belt then that would just be aweful. We only barely tolerate "the black people" holding the top belt once in a blue moon, after all. They should be grateful that we even allow them to be on TV while leaning into ridiculous stereotypes.[/Vince]
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Sep 9, 2020 20:23
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Waylon Mercy is specifically based on Max Cady, who may or may not be a falsely accused rapist (which is still hosed up source material)
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sam sheppard, a doctor who went to jail for murdering his wife and then was acquitted in appeals, became a heel character playing an evil doctor who murdered wives
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Smoking Crow posted:sam sheppard, a doctor who went to jail for murdering his wife and then was acquitted in appeals, became a heel character playing an evil doctor who murdered wives He's also according to Mick Foley's first book the inventor of the Mandible Claw.
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bartok posted:He's also according to Mick Foley's first book the inventor of the Mandible Claw. I think that story is actually true.
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Has anyone ever made the "Sunset Flip, opponent stays up and tries to fight it" spot look good or at least not bad?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Has anyone ever made the "Sunset Flip, opponent stays up and tries to fight it" spot look good or at least not bad? Triple H
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Has anyone ever made the "Sunset Flip, opponent stays up and tries to fight it" spot look good or at least not bad? But this is one of the best things in prograps tho?
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Sep 10, 2020 22:41
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Has anyone ever made the "Sunset Flip, opponent stays up and tries to fight it" spot look good or at least not bad? Any big guy who gets his balance and tries to squash the flipper by just dropping down on his rear end
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In the Retro review of Wrestlemania X7 and Austin vs. Rock, they mention a "Million Dollar Dream into a cradle" callback. What is that a call back to? Some match between Austin and Bret, I think but which one? I only ever saw their WM13 match.
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NikkolasKing posted:In the Retro review of Wrestlemania X7 and Austin vs. Rock, they mention a "Million Dollar Dream into a cradle" callback. Early in his WWF run Austin was managed by Million Dollar man and used the million dollar dream as a finish. Also in Austin’s submission match with Bret much was made about Austin not being a submission wrestler only for him to bust out his old finish.
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NikkolasKing posted:In the Retro review of Wrestlemania X7 and Austin vs. Rock, they mention a "Million Dollar Dream into a cradle" callback. I want to say Survivor Series 96.
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NikkolasKing posted:In the Retro review of Wrestlemania X7 and Austin vs. Rock, they mention a "Million Dollar Dream into a cradle" callback. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhs-pOpBwcU&t=900s The call back is in this match Austin would not let the hold go of the Dream, he cared more about choking Bret Hart then winning so he gets pinned from stubbornness. At WM17 he let it go because he cared more about the championship and winning.
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Lid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhs-pOpBwcU&t=900s Austin should have done more film study and watched the WM 8 !watch between Bret and Piper.
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I love how that spot gets used from time to time and is treated as a big deal when it's kicked out of. I'm sure somebody has used it in AEW recently but I can't place it.
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Lid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhs-pOpBwcU&t=900s
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jesus WEP posted:I can still make myself mad by thinking about how much better the main event of Mania 14 would have been as the final blowoff to Bret vs Austin Agreed, though I wonder, what would have been the plan for Shawn Michaels have been if Bret had stayed? Best I can figure is Owen.
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TL posted:Agreed, though I wonder, what would have been the plan for Shawn Michaels have been if Bret had stayed? Best I can figure is Owen. Maybe a Shamrock rematch?
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Shawn Michaels vs Triple H 1/2364
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I think if Brett ended up staying Shawn would of probably ended up leaving for WCW TBH
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Replace Bischoff with pilled up Shawn as the mouthpiece for the nWo in 98 and I am so loving in.
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