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That Italian Guy posted:. One of my favorite scenes from the comic (minor comic spoiler) is when Vought wants to sell a new toyline, so they introduce the Noirjet. Black Noir is undergoing training with someone from the Air Force, but he keeps crashing planes cause he's too dumb to learn. . Nah, he keeps crashing them cos gently caress flying in planes. Lol at taking the light touch approach on the racist.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:06
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Rather than also complaining about willfully obtuse idiots in the thread, I thought I'd put in a plug for both the bonkers 1980s Pippi movie and the guys from We Hate Movies talking about it.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:09
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Riatsala posted:All of a sudden I'm really interested in what's going with Black Noir. He's the most driven and focused of the Seven (in fact, he seems to be the only one who actually does field work at this point) but he's still totally an enigma. They've gone out of their way to suggest a deeper pathology going on with the guy this season, what with playing with the kid's stuffed rabbit, showing respect for Lucy, and crying at finding out he's created with compound V. Yeah, don't forget the note he gave the tech was scribbled multiple times like a child wrote it  Honestly the thing I love about this show is most of the non-supe chars are total softies. Frenchie and his "petit hughie" and his love of Kimiko, the small stuff like he was suffocated with a hello kitty blanket, implying he really liked hello kitty when he was younger. Mother's Milk coming out with totally left field remarks about his family and his home life, his constant expressions of love for his family (the Downtown Abbey thing lmfao). How Butcher does in fact care about the rest of the boys -- he could have left Hughie there when they needed to go, he could have left him on the sidewalk at any point, in fact. When Hughie tears up the 45k the look on his face says it all. The characterization in this show is just  Riatsala posted:I could be totally wrong but something in the back of my head says he might not even be tracking Butcher to kill him, but could be looking for information about Compound V/Vought from one of the company's most persistent and effective opponents. Add to the fact that even Butcher fighting and escaping or killing Noir seems like too straightforward and unlikely a conclusion to a confrontation they've been building to since the beginning of episode 4. I think there's more going on here, and I think we're going get some interesting developments about Noir in the next episode. Yeah, Black Noir for all of his stuff seems a lot more switched on than the other supes, his priorities are different than the others. I get the same vibe.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:10
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How Wonderful! posted:Come on, don't be an rear end in a top hat. It's no fun to have everybody telling you you're wrong, I get that, but don't be a dick. Baudolino posted:I always assume Becca had very little choice in giving birth or not, once she went to Vought and told them she was in their clutches.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:10
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Why isn't there other sports in this universe other than a race that takes literally 1 second to finish? Who would even show up for that? Spend $100s of bucks on stadium food and tickets and parking when the loving super heroes run the races in a full second?
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Sep 14, 2020 18:11
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PostNouveau posted:The kid might wind up killing his dad by the end of the show, but I think a "good ending" for him is to become a tax accountant who never uses his powers. Boys --> Incredibles multiverse?? Ryan == Mr. Incredible? Cleo == Elastigirl?!?! e: Tenzarin, I like the idea of a race car type event, where there's a huge day of insane poo poo -- A speedster moonwalking vs a cheetah, or trying to win a rock-paper-scissor battle against one, just go full loving carnie on that poo poo: hammer nails into regenerators, $20 gets you a short ride with a flying supe, talk to the stingrays, feed The Mouth your garbage, just gently caress it up with oddball supes. Then, when everybody's sunburned, drunk, and tired at the end of the day, then you have your 10 second match with replay after replay. The audience feels good because they finally get to go home more than seeing the race boo_radley fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Sep 14, 2020 18:11
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Tenzarin posted:Why isn't there other sports in this universe other than a race that takes literally 1 second to finish? Who would even show up for that? Spend $100s of bucks on stadium food and tickets and parking when the loving super heroes run the races in a full second? It does beg the question- What other sports could benefit the most from supes?
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Sep 14, 2020 18:12
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Well if you go see Ronda Rousey fight you do get a few hours of potential awful long ufc fights that will just go to decision. They do give you a decent amount of fights.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:15
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I forgot to link the image black noir scribbles like a child 
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Sep 14, 2020 18:15
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I'd pay to see super jai alai
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Sep 14, 2020 18:27
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alexandriao posted:black noir scribbles like a child Am i crazy or is it literally written on construction paper?
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Sep 14, 2020 18:32
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How Wonderful! posted:Stormfront is still probably obfuscating or fabricating stuff when she talked about her Halloween costume because before the 50s there were just not that many Disney princesses for people to dress up as, and Pippi Longstocking would not have been a laughable or weird costume. I guess there's a lot of wiggle room right now for when her "real childhood" took place, though, so maybe I'm being too literal. Well, between Pippi Longstocking not being first published until 1945 and Halloween wasn't really a thing in Germany until the 90s, I assume we're talking about postwar, when she was presumably Paperclipped to the US along with Vought himself. Depends on how old she was when that happened: if she was a baby, the "other girls" might have been dressing up as late as 1959, which gives them five options if you're generous and count Alice and Wendy. OTOH, I found an interview with the guy who came up with the "Disney Princess" brand and he was inspired to do it by seeing a bunch of little girls wearing generic princess costumes and realizing there was money on the table, so maybe she was using Disney princess generically. Why yes, I did spend way too long thinking about this.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:32
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Bust Rodd posted:Am i crazy or is it literally written on construction paper? I think so, he seems to have kidlike tendencies I know there's some scene in season 1 where he's gleefully drinking a soda with a straw at a party
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Sep 14, 2020 18:33
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moist turtleneck posted:I think so, he seems to have kidlike tendencies He never takes his mask off, it would be a bit hard for him to drink normally.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:36
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Azhais posted:I'd pay to see super jai alai Would feat of strength contests even be viable with supes? We have seen that supes are limited by physics. It'd be interesting to do some napkin math to see how much weight they could conceivably lift up before the earth itself begins to sink from the weight.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:43
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Bust Rodd posted:Am i crazy or is it literally written on construction paper? I’d like to think that if they weren’t enemies, Black Noir and MM would bond over a shared interest in building model houses, but alas 
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Sep 14, 2020 18:43
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He's not just sipping the soda, he's like bouncing up and down like a toddler while drinking it
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Sep 14, 2020 18:43
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Early Season One, all I could see was Chris Pine when I watched Antony Starr as Homelander. I wasn't familiar with any of his previous credits, and had no idea the range this guy had. Season 2 has had me floored at his performances. I don't think I've seen an actor portray so many conflicting emotions and reactions merely by facial expression alone, and when he actually speaks it can go from amusing to downright terrifying in a nanosecond. And the ep 5 preview looks like it's going to really advance the plot. Can't wait.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:46
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Prediction: Black Noir is a Homelander Clone but it’s Logan rules so the clone is only like 7 years old but has all the strength and speed of Homie
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Sep 14, 2020 18:48
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How Wonderful! posted:I have a lot of sympathy for Ashley because I used to have the same haircut as her and I know how hard a cross it is to bear. I feel like the writers want us to feel bad for her and the position she's in, but it's kind of hard to after she cheerfully returned to a company that fired her for not covering up a sexual assault effectively enough.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:49
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That Italian Guy posted:Nice catch on Pippi Longstocking! Wasn't it raining the night she killed that guy? Maybe she can't use her lightning around water.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:50
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fun article on the genesis of the Stormfront article I forgot to x out before Part of the writers' take on Stormfront for the show, compared to the comics, came from "classic screenwriting math," Kripke tells EW over Zoom. "Which is you can’t present a character that is exactly who they appear to be." Stormfront from the comics, created by Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson, had a much smaller role as part of a superhero team called Payback. "But we knew the character needed to be a main character," he continues. "You almost always play a game as a screenwriter, which is [asking] 'OK, who are they really? Well, then our first impression of them is going to be the opposite of that.' We need her to not seem like a racist piece of sh— so then it’s a surprise that she is." Another part, as far as gender-swapping the role, was the idea of introducing a female figure to the Seven who has no fear of Homelander (Antony Starr). That would be "his worst nightmare," Kripke says. But then the writers room took further inspiration from alt-right trolls on social media and platforms like Reddit. For better or worse, they all fell down "a lot of white supremacist rabbit holes," which Kripke called "horrific." "So many of them are couched in new media, specifically reaching out to young people and gamers," he says. "The videos are like these cute girls who are saying the most hateful sh— but they are young and their noses are pierced. ‘Be a free thinker!’ They put on a new set of clothes but it’s the same hateful sh— that people have been saying for a thousand years... We wanted to recreate that experience for the audience, that the monsters are not wearing 1960s crewcuts. They are attractive and they’re savvy and you have to be aware of that."
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Sep 14, 2020 18:52
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I sure hope no one reads spoilers then come in here to post like they just guessed it themselves. I hate those people.
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Sep 14, 2020 18:53
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Shageletic posted:But then the writers room took further inspiration from alt-right trolls on social media and platforms like Reddit. For better or worse, they all fell down "a lot of white supremacist rabbit holes," which Kripke called "horrific." Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Wasn't it raining the night she killed that guy? Maybe she can't use her lightning around water. Also, wouldn't the revelation that she speaks Japanese be a huge breakthrough for the boys? Do dictionaries not exist in this universe or something?
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Sep 14, 2020 18:58
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Wee Bairns posted:Early Season One, all I could see was Chris Pine when I watched Antony Starr as Homelander. I wasn't familiar with any of his previous credits, and had no idea the range this guy had. It's interesting because that role/character of the abusive, controlling (almost always husband) partner is fairly well worn. I think that what makes Homelander so scary is that, if he was just an abusive husband, we'd know how the movie would end - either the cops intervene or the abused takes the matter into her own hands. Here that's not possible, and the abused wife in this case is every single person who HL knows personally. Those feelings of disgust and anger at watching a character gaslight, threaten, murder and terrorize people are tempered by the understanding that the villain will get his comeuppance. Here we assume that's the case (might not be!) but we have no idea how or when, or how many he'll kill before it happens.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:08
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Also Butcher’s wife, who he literally abuses. Also I feel like now Butcher is going to redirect all of his energy towards killing Homie, because ultimately Homie is who took Becca away from him and put her in a position where she had to choose her son over him. Butcher is gonna go full serial-super-killer from here on out.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:14
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Baudolino posted:I always assume Becca had very little choice in giving birth or not, once she went to Vougth and told them she was in their clutches. This is sexist as hell. There are tons of people who exist in real life that were raised by single parents regardless of gender and turned out fine. The idea that every child needs two parents, one with traditionally masculine traits and another with traditionally feminine traits is comically outdated.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:14
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zoux posted:It's interesting because that role/character of the abusive, controlling (almost always husband) partner is fairly well worn. I think that what makes Homelander so scary is that, if he was just an abusive husband, we'd know how the movie would end - either the cops intervene or the abused takes the matter into her own hands. Here that's not possible, and the abused wife in this case is every single person who HL knows personally. Those feelings of disgust and anger at watching a character gaslight, threaten, murder and terrorize people are tempered by the understanding that the villain will get his comeuppance. Here we assume that's the case (might not be!) but we have no idea how or when, or how many he'll kill before it happens. Butcher is also an extremely manipulative and abusive figure. Not just to his wife, but to everyone he knows. Look at how many times he lies to people to get what he wants. The way she is written, I was extremely surprised she basically tells him to gently caress off. Bust Rodd posted:Butcher is gonna go full serial-super-killer from here on out. Bioshuffle fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Sep 14, 2020 19:21
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Elephant Ambush posted:This is sexist as hell. There are tons of people who exist in real life that were raised by single parents regardless of gender and turned out fine. The idea that every child needs two parents, one with traditionally masculine traits and another with traditionally feminine traits is comically outdated.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:23
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Bioshuffle posted:Would feat of strength contests even be viable with supes? We have seen that supes are limited by physics. It'd be interesting to do some napkin math to see how much weight they could conceivably lift up before the earth itself begins to sink from the weight. lol he's a flat earther too
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Sep 14, 2020 19:32
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Bioshuffle posted:Welp. Looks like my analysis was way off the mark. So can we nip that in the bud and move on already? Ok but, no. You saw a woman with a fascist coded name, who called a man a racial slur while killing him, and said that she enjoyed killing and wanted to watch him visibly die, and your take was "she can be redeemed, she's not fascist scum". So either you have a lot of self insight, ideological dissection and reading to do to not be a fascist. Or you are a fascist. Actually the most charitable interpretation here that I can think of is that she's hot and you wanted to gently caress her, and hoped she could be redeemed because of that. edit: The cherry on the top here is that you're capable of recognising that Butcher has abusive tendencies but not Stormfront. alexandriao fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Sep 14, 2020 19:37
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Elephant Ambush posted:This is sexist as hell. There are tons of people who exist in real life that were raised by single parents regardless of gender and turned out fine. The idea that every child needs two parents, one with traditionally masculine traits and another with traditionally feminine traits is comically outdated. I'm pretty sure they meant that the *only* other person the kid sees is his mother, not that SINGLE MOTHER BAD.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:45
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Bioshuffle posted:Welp. Looks like my analysis was way off the mark. So can we nip that in the bud and move on already? lol no you're still hella terrible and uber creepy
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Sep 14, 2020 19:50
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alexandriao posted:Ok but, no. don't forget the part where he called her his favorite superhero after racially slurring and killing the asian guy.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:53
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the second most charitable interpretation is that he believes that "girls cant be fascists, thats for boys" 
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Sep 14, 2020 19:54
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That Italian Guy posted:Yeah in the show at least Compound-V is bad for you unless you have won the genetic lottery - Shining Light has dosed Kenji specifically cause Kimiko had survived the procedure. I guess Vought is actually good at selecting potential candidates. That or they're good at covering it up when they try and get it wrong. Also the way I read that is that some people get lame powers, and some people end up Homelander. Kimiko is pretty powerful so they drugged her brother figuring he'd also be badass, and he was pretty badass. Give V to a random person and they may turn into one of the lesser X-men like Toad.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:54
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thrawn527 posted:So, on a different topic, dude who could regenerate his body parts, he had an eye patch? Said something about an experiment they were doing? I thought he regenerated nearly instantly? At least, that's what happened with his arm. Could Vought be experimenting with something that suppresses powers? That's a good catch. It may just be a minor continuity error or maybe eyeballs are harder than hands and take longer to regenerate? But maaaaaybe!
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Sep 14, 2020 19:57
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Elephant Ambush posted:This is sexist as hell. There are tons of people who exist in real life that were raised by single parents regardless of gender and turned out fine. The idea that every child needs two parents, one with traditionally masculine traits and another with traditionally feminine traits is comically outdated. I think they meant because the kid is being raised in isolation from the rest of society, not necessarily that it's because he's being raised by a single mom. Personality traits are highly heritable though so I wonder which direction they'll go with the kid, if the kid's development becomes a plotline. He could be a good egg because mom socialized him well, or he could latch on to his isolation & estrangement and his Homelander side could surface.
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Sep 14, 2020 19:59
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Riatsala posted:All of a sudden I'm really interested in what's going with Black Noir. He's the most driven and focused of the Seven (in fact, he seems to be the only one who actually does field work at this point) but he's still totally an enigma. They've gone out of their way to suggest a deeper pathology going on with the guy this season, what with playing with the kid's stuffed rabbit, showing respect for Lucy, and crying at finding out he's created with compound V. I could be totally wrong but something in the back of my head says he might not even be tracking Butcher to kill him, but could be looking for information about Compound V/Vought from one of the company's most persistent and effective opponents. Add to the fact that even Butcher fighting and escaping or killing Noir seems like too straightforward and unlikely a conclusion to a confrontation they've been building to since the beginning of episode 4. I think there's more going on here, and I think we're going get some interesting developments about Noir in the next episode. I think they're just working in jokes at the Batman character. Black Noir is what you would actually end up with if you had a kid who was orphaned with his parents murdered in front of him who grew up to be a super vigilante. The dude is amazing but also a completely broken human being with no capability of communication and lacking in basic social skills. He only has like a 2nd grade formal education. Since the plot isn't doing what the comics did with him, they seem to just be using him in the way as The Deep. He's a comedic relief parody of a Superfriend. Someone earlier in the thread even said something like "black noir does the same thing as the deep but better". I like The Deep's character and his story this season, but anyways. I think its cool if they don't explain it too much and just keep him as this parody batman. But you never know. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Zaphod42 posted:That or they're good at covering it up when they try and get it wrong. That's what I figured, they have a ton of minor dudes like the archer guy, who I assume has amazing accuracy powers or something. Starlight also talks about super kid pageants her mom dragged her to, so I'm assuming they try and impress Vought enough to get a contract to somewhere. There's always an ex-pro ball player selling cars or whatever that gets trotted out for ribbon cutting ceremonies in America, so I'd imagine it's similar for small town superheroes.
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