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Nocheez posted:I'm pretty sure my wife would divorce me if she caught me playing a game about making dinner instead of actually making the dinner. There's a Cooking Simulator coming on Steam and I feel a bit guilty about the fact that I'm kinda excited to play it but I am both awful at and hate cooking IRL.
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Sep 14, 2020 21:10
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Turin Turambar posted:This sounds cool On the one hand, it's incredibly annoying to see those actions and realize that at least in its initial release form you'll have to be doing it by shaking a loving gamepad around in the air. On the other hand, it provides some hope that if there is a proper PC release at some point it might actually be fully implemented with hand tracking instead of being purely gamepad driven. I'm still not sure why they'd choose to do that even on PSVR though, are Move controllers particularly bad? Do they not have enough inputs? Are there a lot of people who have PSVR headsets but not Move controllers?
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Sep 14, 2020 22:37
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wolrah posted:I'm still not sure why they'd choose to do that even on PSVR though, are Move controllers particularly bad? Their tracking is only slightly better than the controller tracking, and they don't have enough buttons on them to play a real game. They're just not very practical outside of pure hand-interaction games like Job Simulator or Tumble VR.
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Sep 14, 2020 22:40
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The more time I spend playing different rhythm games in VR the more and more I realize I just don't like Beat Saber. What a bummer, I should love i! The scoring is so fuzzy it makes leaderboard chasing a non starter for me, and I feel like a lot of the charts are just flailing around which makes it feel really sloppy and hard to read. I wish Audica had like half as many custom mappers as BS. Getting into a good flow in Pistol Whip or Audica is some of the most fun I've had in a long time. Also Dance Central has a really, really cool UI and presentation. I really want Harmonix to make another, wholly unique game for VR.
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Sep 14, 2020 22:51
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Stan Taylor posted:The more time I spend playing different rhythm games in VR the more and more I realize I just don't like Beat Saber. What a bummer, I should love i! The scoring is so fuzzy it makes leaderboard chasing a non starter for me, and I feel like a lot of the charts are just flailing around which makes it feel really sloppy and hard to read. I wish Audica had like half as many custom mappers as BS. Getting into a good flow in Pistol Whip or Audica is some of the most fun I've had in a long time. I really wish Beat Saber had more people do mapping at difficulties that aren’t extreme/extreme+. The music really needs more variety.
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Sep 14, 2020 22:52
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A bit of competition for Blade & Sorcerey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c_lCul7dUA About Beat Saber: it's my favorite rhythm game from the ones I tried!
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Sep 14, 2020 23:12
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I really wish Beat Saber had more people do mapping at difficulties that aren’t extreme/extreme+. The music really needs more variety. That, and I wish there was a more consistent definition of the difficulties. I've seen "extreme" songs that play anywhere between "OST1 Normal" and "how is it physically possible for a person to react or move their arms that fast!?" Blocks per second seems to be a better proxy for difficulty most of the time, but gets hosed up easily by songs with long stretches of nothingness followed by colored block diarrhea.
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Sep 14, 2020 23:12
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The new Quest, if it has a better field of view, might just be the perfect headset (Facebook login issues notwithstanding). Is there any word on FOV yet? My Quest is great but the FOV can feel a little claustrophobic. And I don't understand how those pricing rumours can be true given the specs.
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Sep 14, 2020 23:16
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I feel like there's no way the FOV is significantly different, it's clearly an iteration headset
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Sep 14, 2020 23:19
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wolrah posted:Seeing this gives me mixed feelings. Yes move controllers suck and the ps4 controller is the same but better This is fine and good chill out Turin Turambar posted:A bit of competition for Blade & Sorcerey Looks pretty neato but swordfighting in VR is hard to get right and depends entirely on feel so I don't know how much the trailer can even tell me
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Kind of lovely time to be a recent Oculus buyer. And I thought I was so lucky they were back in stock a couple of months ago  Still really not sure if it's be as comfortable as the S though. The strap looks sketchy. wolrah posted:I'm still not sure why they'd choose to do that even on PSVR though, are Move controllers particularly bad? Do they not have enough inputs? Are there a lot of people who have PSVR headsets but not Move controllers? The Move controllers have no sticks so free movement is usually handled by tilting the direction you want to go in. Some people can handle it but I find it barely functional. Also they are fine for like arcade shooters but usually poo poo the bed when you have to do stuff like open cabinets etc. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Sep 14, 2020 |
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Sep 14, 2020 23:30
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Stan Taylor posted:The more time I spend playing different rhythm games in VR the more and more I realize I just don't like Beat Saber. What a bummer, I should love i! The scoring is so fuzzy it makes leaderboard chasing a non starter for me, and I feel like a lot of the charts are just flailing around which makes it feel really sloppy and hard to read. I wish Audica had like half as many custom mappers as BS. Getting into a good flow in Pistol Whip or Audica is some of the most fun I've had in a long time. As far as I'm concerned it's not really a music game, and I don't think that's what the devs were trying to make in the first place. It's absolutely fine for what it is, but other VR games do music gameplay better. Unfortunately not that much better; I haven't found one yet that I can recommend without reservation. I need to try Deemo Reborn now that it's on PC? The expo demo I played last year felt great, but I'm not sure how well its weird ideas will translate to a full game.
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Sep 14, 2020 23:31
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NRVNQSR posted:As far as I'm concerned it's not really a music game, and I don't think that's what the devs were trying to make in the first place. It's absolutely fine for what it is, but other VR games do music gameplay better. Yes, exactly. The scoring has absolutely nothing to do with timing, it isn't a rhythm game at all, which is why it was such a bummer for me when I finally got to play it. I had a similar reaction to Sayonara Wild Hearts in that its sort of set to music, but not really. That game had way better style and music for me though, so I loved it anyway. And yeah the customs in Beat Saber are by and large terrible. There are like four that I've found where the song is something I don't mind and the map is actually fun.
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HoboTech posted:*waking up in a cold sweat because you can't remember if you did your taxes in real life or just as a VR mini-game* Okay but I got legitimately confused when I couldn't find the battery indicator lights on my knuckles. I knew I'd seen them there a hundred times. But they were gone?? Full AR is gonna gently caress with the human mind so bad.
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Sep 15, 2020 00:00
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Turin Turambar posted:A bit of competition for Blade & Sorcerey i'll wait for reviews. B&S has nothing but sandbox mode and the only way i'm buying another swordgame is if it has a real gamemod
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Bad Munki posted:Okay but I got legitimately confused when I couldn't find the battery indicator lights on my knuckles. I knew I'd seen them there a hundred times. But they were gone?? I'm not going to lie, this screwed with me too, but it's an ingenious way to add features to something without physically putting it on the controller. Inacio posted:i'll wait for reviews. B&S has nothing but sandbox mode and the only way i'm buying another swordgame is if it has a real gamemod Okay so this post brought a question to my mind: are there any sword and sorcery dungeon crawling games for VR that are worthwhile?
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Skyrim? I mean the swordplay sucks but if you want to crawl through dungeons there's like 200 hours of those. I know what you mean though. I'd love a quality, made for VR dungeon crawler. all of the ones I'm aware of are basically glorified dueling games that are light on exploration and robust mechanics.
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Sep 15, 2020 01:26
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Playing Until You Fall lately and it's fun, but it's pretty much going from point A to B with extremely limited variety. And I can't help but think how cool it would be if it were more of a full game with branching paths and more variety. it feels more like a proof of concept more than anything.
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Sep 15, 2020 01:28
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veni veni veni posted:Skyrim? I mean the swordplay sucks but if you want to crawl through dungeons there's like 200 hours of those. Yeah you're not wrong, I should probably just bite the bullet and mod SkyrimVR, get it over with. There's a few games on Steam that look like they fit the category but I'm suspicious of their quality.
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Sep 15, 2020 01:49
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veni veni veni posted:Playing Until You Fall lately and it's fun, but it's pretty much going from point A to B with extremely limited variety. And I can't help but think how cool it would be if it were more of a full game with branching paths and more variety. it feels more like a proof of concept more than anything. Hard agree. I feel like that’s a problem that haunts a ton of VR games, the variety and encounter design is usually a bit meh.
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Turin Turambar posted:A bit of competition for Blade & Sorcerey Wow someone invented NPCs that can use two handed weapons.
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Bad Munki posted:Okay but I got legitimately confused when I couldn't find the battery indicator lights on my knuckles. I knew I'd seen them there a hundred times. But they were gone?? I've done this too  .Zaphod42 posted:Yes move controllers suck and the ps4 controller is the same but better It's interesting, but what they're talking about is just how much this underlines the flaws with PSVR with what's blatantly a workaround for non-standard VR controllers.
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GutBomb posted:I fixed it With the newer version of those Sonys you can take the band apart and mount the earpieces directly to the headset 
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I feel like I’m wearing the rift wrong if you guys have your ears that far below the band.... none of my over ear headphones are anywhere close to being able to fit comfortably.
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Sep 15, 2020 03:54
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's interesting, but what they're talking about is just how much this underlines the flaws with PSVR with what's blatantly a workaround for non-standard VR controllers. Its been underlined before, anybody who has a PSVR knows this. Move is ancient PS3 technology that has no business existing in 2020 but Sony apparently had a poo poo ton of unsold Move stock and some exec thought this was a genius answer. If they don't introduce a new PSVR controller for PS5 then PSVR is dead.
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Zaphod42 posted:Its been underlined before, anybody who has a PSVR knows this. Move is ancient PS3 technology that has no business existing in 2020 but Sony apparently had a poo poo ton of unsold Move stock and some exec thought this was a genius answer. I'm not really too worried on that front, because there's been several patents floating around showing that, even if they don't lead directly to the next generation of Sony VR devices, Sony clearly knows they can't get caught out twice.
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Bad Munki posted:Full AR is gonna gently caress with the human mind so bad. http://hyper-reality.co/ is one of my favorite things.
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Zaphod42 posted:If they don't introduce a new PSVR controller for PS5 then PSVR is dead. Nah, it'll still sell well. Being console VR and appearing cheaper than other forms of VR will ensure a large enough market. The decision to use Move really was a genius business decision, as much as it's terrible from a technical one. PSVR's made them mad bank, selling at least 5 million units to consumers, and as of two years ago 22 million games, so over a 4x attach rate within the PSVR ecosystem, which is exceptional, and that 5 million units equates to 5% of the PS4 userbase. PS Move, on the other hand, did something like 5 million over its launch during PS3, but that was to retailers - not consumers - expecting Wii levels of success. It did not translate to actual sales. You guys are coming at this from the perspective of folks with experience with and knowledge of PC VR and its standards. PSVR's only competition is uh, Switch Labo VR, and the (4x more expensive here! PSVR gets you by not including everything you need, which lets them advertise deceptively low prices, which generates more sales!) Oculus Quest. It is however, very likely they'll have something new and fancy in the pipeline though. Just a question of whether it'll be there on launch, or if they'll hold it back to extend the lifecycle.
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Stan Taylor posted:I feel like I’m wearing the rift wrong if you guys have your ears that far below the band.... none of my over ear headphones are anywhere close to being able to fit comfortably. Its more likely that i just have a big head 
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Nah, it'll still sell well. Being console VR and appearing cheaper than other forms of VR will ensure a large enough market. The decision to use Move really was a genius business decision, as much as it's terrible from a technical one. The Oculus Quest, even the current model, doesn't have a fat $500USD+ asterisk next to its pricetag and offers a full VR experience on its own, plus tethering to PC. PSVR rode on being the cheapest entry point into VR because a shitload of people had PS4's and no competition. The next generation has neither in its favour. PSVR2 at the very least isn't going to be anywhere near launch (pretty sure Sony's said/inferred as much themselves), and it's mainly because of the previous point; That fat $500USD+ asterisk attached to it. Letting it sit for a few months, or a year or two, gives time for PS5's to build a marketplace and make that next $X00 purchase more palatable. ROFLBOT posted:Its more likely that i just have a big head This is more of a general thing than you specifically, but if you've got a big head, wide IPD and want a higher-definition VR headset, seriously consider the Vive Pro if you can still find one. My IPD's well out in the 72mm range, and even with my large head the side cushions aren't even touched.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The Oculus Quest, even the current model, doesn't have a fat $500USD+ asterisk next to its pricetag and offers a full VR experience on its own, plus tethering to PC. PSVR rode on being the cheapest entry point into VR because a shitload of people had PS4's and no competition. The next generation has neither in its favour. I mean, people are going to buy PS5s with or without VR so the asterisk is not that big for that (incredibly big) market.
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lunar detritus posted:I mean, people are going to buy PS5s with or without VR so the asterisk is not that big for that (incredibly big) market. Not everyone has disposable income to throw around freely anymore due to COVID-19. Not to mention we have no idea of general availability of the PS5 at launch given the way Sony's being weird with talking about preorders. And while that's getting sorted, out roles the Quest 2 as its own complete experience for a cheaper price point in the (presumably) near future.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Not everyone has disposable income to throw around freely anymore due to COVID-19. Not to mention we have no idea of general availability of the PS5 at launch given the way Sony's being weird with talking about preorders. I think you're being too optimistic about VR being enough of a draw to get people to buy the Quest 2 over a console with a proven back catalog of games and the promise of exclusives.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I really wish Beat Saber had more people do mapping at difficulties that aren’t extreme/extreme+. The music really needs more variety. Holy poo poo this for a thousand years!!!
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lunar detritus posted:I think you're being too optimistic about VR being enough of a draw to get people to buy the Quest 2 over a console with a proven back catalog of games and the promise of exclusives. I'm talking about PSVR2, not the PS5 itself.
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lunar detritus posted:I think you're being too optimistic about VR being enough of a draw to get people to buy the Quest 2 over a console with a proven back catalog of games and the promise of exclusives. I have a feeling that Facebook's whole rebranding exercise is partly because they want to move away from the platform being entirely games focused. The Quest 2's significant resolution bump makes it far more useful outside of that, it'll be a fantastic flatscreen media viewer too which widens it's market somewhat.
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8one6 posted:Holy poo poo this for a thousand years!!! You just need to get better at the game it's not that hard.  I totally agree with you
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Oovee posted:Any word on what kind of wifi quest 2 has? The XR2 chipset supports WiFi 6, so it will most likely support that.
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SCheeseman posted:I have a feeling that Facebook's whole rebranding exercise is partly because they want to move away from the platform being entirely games focused. The Quest 2's significant resolution bump makes it far more useful outside of that, it'll be a fantastic flatscreen media viewer too which widens it's market somewhat. There's a bit on that in one of the leaked videos talking about streaming Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc, so I'd say you're right there.
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