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In exciting news, I did a thing. I've launched the co-operative brewery project. An absolutely nervewracking day of making sure all the social media is aligned and seeing what ads work for engagement and what don't, but I think this just might work. It's got quite a bit of distance to go, but if it takes off it'll be really good, and allow me to provide some great employment opportunities to groups who are going to be in a really precarious position post COVID. It's here, and I'm excited!  (As a side note if anyone thinks I'm talking about this too much please say - it's pretty exciting for me so it's hard to know when I'm overdoing it!)
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Red Oktober posted:In exciting news, I did a thing. I've launched the co-operative brewery project. An absolutely nervewracking day of making sure all the social media is aligned and seeing what ads work for engagement and what don't, but I think this just might work. It's got quite a bit of distance to go, but if it takes off it'll be really good, and allow me to provide some great employment opportunities to groups who are going to be in a really precarious position post COVID. Well done for getting it off the ground! Really hope it works out. You've only mentioned it about 3 times so don't worry 
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An absolute monarchy, like all feudal systems, has most of the political power in the hands of landlords. The thing is, much the same is true of a democracy where there are enough of the bastards There are currently something like 2 million landlords in England, and they almost all vote. That’s about the size of the gap between parties in 2019. Lacking that voting block plausibly does explain some of the political differences between Scotland and England.
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Red Oktober posted:In exciting news, I did a thing. I've launched the co-operative brewery project. An absolutely nervewracking day of making sure all the social media is aligned and seeing what ads work for engagement and what don't, but I think this just might work. It's got quite a bit of distance to go, but if it takes off it'll be really good, and allow me to provide some great employment opportunities to groups who are going to be in a really precarious position post COVID. This is awesome. You are awesome. Congratulations on the launch! So we have a UKMT brewer, a candy maker, seem to recall someone makes gin.. all we need is a butcher and a vegetable farmer and we have the makings of a dammed nice weekend or a very Correct village to set children’s stories in. I’m thinking a hard-left version of the ‘Happy Families’ kids books (anyone else remember those?).
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Sep 16, 2020 01:10
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm not supporting the right? I think it's a ridiculous decision on the part of the uni. I'm mostly just real mad at the kind of woke liberal ultras who think this is a progressive thing to get indignant about, and there would be some comfort knowing that actually it's just the right being shitlords as usual. It's a far more depressing thought that the people doing it might genuinely think they're taking a principled left wing stand, not only because it hands the reactionaries ammunition but also because it shows quite how loving useless and hollowed out by neoliberalism US radicalism has become. I've seen people posting about this in other threads too. The more likely reason for the suspension is kinda funnier: this particular uni has been plagued by repeated waves of scandal: financial, cheating, political, racial, #MeToo etc etc to the extent that it's become a bit of a punchline in US discourse, a byword for mismanagement and bad behaviour (Google "University of Southern California scandal" to get the full impressive list). I think the top people at the uni were so desperate to avoid any more damaging headlines that they've become massively nervous and leapt on this at the 1st hint of trouble to try and shut it down, which has inadvertently made the publicity much worse for them, making them look dumb all over again.
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Sep 16, 2020 01:13
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namesake posted:Yes I reckon the rural community with a incredibly potent apple based alcohol and an absolutely poo poo ton of weird holy sites and magic is based on Lancashire and not Somerset and Wiltshire. Well, the name is a shortened version of Lancashire, the adjective is an anagram of the adjective for Lancashire, the most famous witch trial of England happened in Lancashire, and the area and surrounds have their own fair share of weird places. But I'm sure that because Somerset also has cider, it must be the true inspiration for Lancre.
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Red Oktober posted:In exciting news, I did a thing. I've launched the co-operative brewery project. An absolutely nervewracking day of making sure all the social media is aligned and seeing what ads work for engagement and what don't, but I think this just might work. It's got quite a bit of distance to go, but if it takes off it'll be really good, and allow me to provide some great employment opportunities to groups who are going to be in a really precarious position post COVID. Good luck! I've put in some money. One option (idk how viable this would be) that I'd have paid for was to get sent some booze from whatever gets brewed. not sure how practical that'd be though.
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Sep 16, 2020 03:46
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Julio Cruz posted:what the gently caress is this bullshit It's in response to this kind of thing: https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1305531303140392961?s=20
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Re Pratchett, people getting het up over rival claims to specificity is really funny to me, because my pet theory that I've just pulled out my arse right now is that the more specific novels in terms of place or subject (lost continent, pyramids, interesting times, moving pictures) are among the weakest.* Pratchett is a much better satirist than parodist imo * possibly very unfair on interesting times which I haven't read in forever
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Niric posted:Re Pratchett, people getting het up over rival claims to specificity is really funny to me, because my pet theory that I've just pulled out my arse right now is that the more specific novels in terms of place or subject (lost continent, pyramids, interesting times, moving pictures) are among the weakest.* Pratchett is a much better satirist than parodist imo Lol those (and of course Soul Music) are my favourites. I know I'm supposed to say Night Watch or Reaper Man, but I like the audacity of jokes like "I like a good ninje", "He looks a bit like my uncle", and of course the greatest and longest-set-up pun in the entire canon: quote:She nudged Susan. 'Want some fish?' 'I'm not hungry, thanks.' 'It's really good. Not stale old stuff like it used to be.' 'No, thanks.' Gloria gave her another nudge. 'Want to go and get your own, then?' she said, leering behind her beard. 'Why should I do that?' 'Oh, quite a few girls have gone down there today,' said the dwarf. She leaned closer. 'It's the new boy working there,' she said. 'I'd swear he's elvish.'
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This popped up on Facebook, but it's a real Government "consultation" about gutting regulations around any Covid Vaccine - https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu It's not been widely publicised and looks to be so someone can stand up in the commons and say they did a consultation. Basically it's asking if you're ok with: Using unlicensed vaccines Removing liability for the companies producing the vaccine Allowing unqualified staff to administer it Allowing unlicensed companies to transport it (and presumably store it for at least some time) And removing the ban on advertising for the vaccine. It's worth reading and being "Consulted" on. Oh, and the consultation closes midnight tomorrow. Renfield fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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Private Speech posted:That was my reaction too, well more like a small grin but you know. She didn't smash the place up because he gave her notice to move out, IIRC it looked like she'd just let the place fall to bits over the entire tenancy - he was willing to give benefit of the doubt until it became obvious she was a complete arsehole without the slightest idea of what upkeep entails, it was things like all the kitchen counters cut up to poo poo because apparently cutting boards were something she'd never considered and snapped off washing machine doors. And again, gently caress landlords, but this is one person renting out his house rather than 'multi-millionaire screams at papers one property in 300 has been trashed by plebs'. poo poo works both ways.
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Sep 16, 2020 09:03
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Bucky Fullminster posted:It's in response to this kind of thing: Presumably they're going to march on Buckingham palace and drag Andrew out
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Jose posted:Presumably they're going to march on Buckingham palace and drag Andrew out So I'm clear - QAnon believes in an international satanic paedophile illuminati style group that will take over the world, and believe coronavirus isn't real/a bioweapon in order to keep people indoors and wearing masks so we become disconnected from each other, and this strand is a front to 'Save our Children' by holding protests that will drag others into the QUniverse?
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justcola posted:So I'm clear - QAnon believes in an international satanic paedophile illuminati style group that will take over the world, and believe coronavirus isn't real/a bioweapon in order to keep people indoors and wearing masks so we become disconnected from each other, and this strand is a front to 'Save our Children' by holding protests that will drag others into the QUniverse? "Believe" is a strong term, where "assert" will do. The world of today is too complex and chaotic and they are trying to create a simpler world via authoritarian domination, spinning a narrative that puts their enemies in the crosshairs by tying groups they don't like into a global conspiracy. See, FoldingIdeas' video "In Search Of A Flat Earth".
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justcola posted:So I'm clear - QAnon believes in an international satanic paedophile illuminati style group that will take over the world, and believe coronavirus isn't real/a bioweapon in order to keep people indoors and wearing masks so we become disconnected from each other, and this strand is a front to 'Save our Children' by holding protests that will drag others into the QUniverse? The don't trust authority and there are global forces trying to keep you down bit are the only parts that make any sense. Would be much better off as socialists.
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josh04 posted:How many washing machines were in this flat?! All of them I guess.
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Crankit posted:Lancre is France. Nah - you are thinking of Quirm.
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justcola posted:So I'm clear - QAnon believes in an international satanic paedophile illuminati style group that will take over the world, and believe coronavirus isn't real/a bioweapon in order to keep people indoors and wearing masks so we become disconnected from each other, and this strand is a front to 'Save our Children' by holding protests that will drag others into the QUniverse? "front" suggests organization rather than an organic mutation into a different kind of conspiracy feeling, I say feeling because theory is perhaps too structured. That's broadly it, the Q thing is kinda secondary, there's a whole mess of conspiracy beliefs and because they're all basically "the evil elites are trying to control you" they can all join up and the people who think 5g is mind control and the people who think the royals are lizards and the people who think hilary clinton eats mole children and the people who think the muslim grooming cabal are running the epstein organization and the people who think coronavirus is a bill gates plot to install windows on your face with a mask, all see each other and go "yeah wow it's true isn't it" It's boome brain rot made manifest. It makes less sense than my demented nan. But it's a feeling rather than a thought. If you've ever seen a David Dees art piece it's basically that. If you haven't seen David Dees' art I strongly suggest having a look because it's absolutely amazing. Really captures the absolute cognitive chaos yet sense of vague familiarity because of the pop mythology references. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Sep 16, 2020 |
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What annoys me about this sort of stuff is like... yeah there are groups who conspire to host pedo parties and buy/sell 12 year olds to rich bankers and politicians and stuff... and yes the rich are in some sense "working together" and loving up the world, but it's not like "to control us maaaan". Like it's all rich people giving jobs to their mates and being paid by industry to make laws to keep them in powerful positions, but they're not doing it because they're in an occultist 5G Skull & Bones goat-sacrificing cult, but just because they want more money for their dragon hoard they can use to buy champagne and children to have sex with. The problem is that the outcomes are identical. We get hosed and there are untouchable elites in positions of power we can't do poo poo about, etc.
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justcola posted:So I'm clear - QAnon believes in an international satanic paedophile illuminati style group that will take over the world, and believe coronavirus isn't real/a bioweapon in order to keep people indoors and wearing masks so we become disconnected from each other, and this strand is a front to 'Save our Children' by holding protests that will drag others into the QUniverse? The other big thing that unites QA as with other conspiracies, is this idea that while the evil overlords are all powerful and connected everywhere, that they have to leave clues around like they are Carmen Sandiago. It’s this mad part of the conspiracy where as if they were as connected and omnipresent as they are described, the logical conclusion would be to give up since they have already won. Instead in the conspiracy theorist minds they have to be all powerful, but constrained by arcane, non-sensical rules. They have to be everywhere, but on the verge of losing if enough people say no. It’s like they want them to be the Empire from Star Wars. Only with the Emperor and every single part of the Empire inside the one Death Star that has like a thousand exhaust ports.
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Conspiracy theorism is what you get when you won't accept or don't have access to a comprehensive left wing explanation of the problems of the world. Some people aren't exposed to it and a lot of people simply won't accept it because it requires the belief that the world is not under the control of anyone and some people just can't deal with that, because they need to believe that there is some sort of plan, either divine or otherwise, the concept of a chaotic world is scarier to them than a malevolent one. The conspiracy is more narratively appealing, more storybook, than the reality of the world.
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Camrath posted:So we have a UKMT brewer, a candy maker, seem to recall someone makes gin.. all we need is a butcher and a vegetable farmer and we have the makings of a dammed nice weekend or a very Correct village to set children’s stories in. I know how to make sausages, and I'm sure I'm not the only person itt who's grown veggies  (Last year's cucumbers turned out pretty good, the tomatoes less so, and I still have some murder chilis in the freezer. This year's plans got a bit derailed by covid)
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The Qanon thread used to dub it: "The Pizzagate Expanded Universe", which I always thought was a nice way of summing it up.
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Red Oktober posted:In exciting news, I did a thing. I've launched the co-operative brewery project. An absolutely nervewracking day of making sure all the social media is aligned and seeing what ads work for engagement and what don't, but I think this just might work. It's got quite a bit of distance to go, but if it takes off it'll be really good, and allow me to provide some great employment opportunities to groups who are going to be in a really precarious position post COVID. As a homebrewer this seems pretty rad to me. If I could spare the time and energy and lived less than 200 miles away I’d be interested, but I’ll throw in the little I can afford at the moment anyway
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VideoGames posted:....... Did not think I could get this mad at the continued injustice of this country, but here I am.
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Tories: GET BREXIT DONE Labour: GET the BREXIT deal DONE https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1306164694210826241 AnimalFarmlastsentence.txt spidermenpointing.png
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justcola posted:So I'm clear - QAnon believes in an international satanic paedophile illuminati style group that will take over the world, and believe coronavirus isn't real/a bioweapon in order to keep people indoors and wearing masks so we become disconnected from each other, and this strand is a front to 'Save our Children' by holding protests that will drag others into the QUniverse? Basically yes. They tend to think the group already has control of the world though. They assert that they, and trump, are part of the awakening resistance. This predates corona and started in late 2017 as a way to build support energy for Trump. The pandemic response played perfectly into the conspiracy narrative, and has led to a large influx of people into the Qniverse, including people who would not otherwise have been aligned with trump. They helped create the confusion around the mask/lockdown furore, and are now actively stoking the flames. They are also responsible for creating and amplifying "Save the Children". Just like they created the Seth Rich conspiracy and the Pizzagate conspiracy. They plant seeds, and get a lot of people to grow it organically. People are being manipulated savagely and it is a major problem.
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OwlFancier posted:"front" suggests organization rather than an organic mutation into a different kind of conspiracy feeling, I say feeling because theory is perhaps too structured. That's broadly it, the Q thing is kinda secondary, there's a whole mess of conspiracy beliefs and because they're all basically "the evil elites are trying to control you" they can all join up and the people who think 5g is mind control and the people who think the royals are lizards and the people who think hilary clinton eats mole children and the people who think the muslim grooming cabal are running the epstein organization and the people who think coronavirus is a bill gates plot to install windows on your face with a mask, all see each other and go "yeah wow it's true isn't it" Nice art, I always wondered what Jeff Koons would do if he had to make album art for a conspiracy based rap group. Though maybe Mark Lombardi is a better aesthetic in terms of smoking a joint and realising 'its all connected man' Seems like a waste of energy really. Capitalism has already won, why make it out as if its lizard people or bill gates or the royal family behind it all? I know there's some reassurance in the idea of phantasy as it is made up and therefore you can control the narrative still, but why spend time researching pizza restaurants when you could set up a food bank or mentor people or post in this thread? Back when I used to take a lot of drugs I was into Terence McKenna and Alan Watts and all that, but after meeting like-minded people I realised what a bunch of hogwash it all was and seemed a slippery slope to letting magical thinking take over your life. Was one thing thinking about that sort of stuff, another to live your life by it.
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justcola posted:Nice art, I always wondered what Jeff Koons would do if he had to make album art for a conspiracy based rap group. Though maybe Mark Lombardi is a better aesthetic in terms of smoking a joint and realising 'its all connected man' Because they're right wingers and won't accept a left wing explanation. Capitalism can't be the problem so it must be something else. Also they are magical thinkers, a lot of them incorporate premillenialism (weird rapture christians) into it. They prefer the fantasy to reality. The explanation is emotionally fulfilling and that is why they need explanations for things, not to actually tell them what to do but to fulfil emotional needs.
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VideoGames posted:Did not think I could get this mad at the continued injustice of this country, but here I am. In case you missed it the Tories held a super special ultra-important meeting to make sure grouse-shooting parties were exempt from social distancing restrictions There now you're even madder, you're welcome
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sebzilla posted:Tories: GET BREXIT DONE i'm sure this will look great in a few years time
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:In case you missed it the Tories held a super special ultra-important meeting to make sure grouse-shooting parties were exempt from social distancing restrictions Nope. I saw that. It would be cool if there was a caveat that if they go out hunting then they become quarrys for other hunting parties. That would solve part of the problem. This, though. That grenfell is still going on and there will be no closure for the murders that the tories perpetrated, that there will be no closure on those murdered by austerity, by those murdered by the dwp, by those murdered by this response to covid, that there will be no closure on any of this and that morons will continue to vote them in and be supported by almost 90% of those in the public eye and all I can do is watch it happen around me. Well. I am not sure what to do. I am not sure what to say. I desperately want to travel to the 'laugh at everything because it is so awful' stage but I am stuck in the anger stage and it is all I can do not to find a way to tie a space ship to every tory mp and voter and send them hurtling like a mars rover into the sun. Good grief. Good lord. Good Gracious.
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crispix posted:i'm sure this will look great in a few years time Don't worry, the executive office will make sure only Keir and his team see the Facebook ads. Oh wait 🤔
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VideoGames posted:Nope. I saw that. It would be cool if there was a caveat that if they go out hunting then they become quarrys for other hunting parties. That would solve part of the problem. If it's just giving you grief you don't have to look at it, no use in making yourself miserable just for the sake of it.
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ThomasPaine posted:oh yeah, you absolutely have to get used to interpreting his weird eccentricities to get to the meat of what he's saying, and be willing to engage in good faith. One of the reasons he's looked at kinda uneasily by a lot of the mainstream left is that he's extremely easy to misrepresent if you're uncharitable and cherry pick some of his more problematic passages while ignoring the bigger point of his argument. There's definitely a needlessly provocative edgelord buried in there and he clearly has his tongue half in his cheek a lot of the time, so anytime I think 'hold on a minute, what?' I re-read the paragraph while imagining a fat, bearded Slovenian man saying it while giving me a knowing wink, and thinking about it in that tone makes things click for me most of the time. Niric posted:interesting times which I haven't read in forever justcola posted:Back when I used to take a lot of drugs I was into Terence McKenna and Alan Watts and all that, but after meeting like-minded people I realised what a bunch of hogwash it all was and seemed a slippery slope to letting magical thinking take over your life. Was one thing thinking about that sort of stuff, another to live your life by it. OwlFancier posted:Because they're right wingers and won't accept a left wing explanation. Capitalism can't be the problem so it must be something else. Also they are magical thinkers, a lot of them incorporate premillenialism (weird rapture christians) into it. They prefer the fantasy to reality. The explanation is emotionally fulfilling and that is why they need explanations for things, not to actually tell them what to do but to fulfil emotional needs. I watched from a safe distance online the anti-covid protest thing in Dublin (Caution, brain worms) , and it follows the exact patter of a revivalist preacher or a snake oil salesman. Start with a bunch of 'gatekeeping' propositions to weed out people with too much critical thinking, then go off against a bunch of 'bad' things, which are bad because I say they're bad (and throw in some obviously bad things like child abuse), willingly misunderstand how laws work, claim a single universal Truth that will set you free, whether that's Jesus is Lord or Stanley's Liniment Cures All Ills, then pitch your sale. And 5 minutes research shows that the guy claims to be 'Leader of God's Army', Q believer, and runs a bunch of dodgy 'non-profits'. It's one of those things that's easy and harmless, right up until it isn't.
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