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Bobby Deluxe posted:Who had Hitchcock's the birds for September? It's never mermen!
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/ITVBorderRB/status/1306584662207332352?s=19 Yeah the last thing they'd want is the ability to put up a hard border with the plague lands while starting negotiations to rejoin the EU. Think of the massive healthy economy they'd lose access to.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:29
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It's great when politicians just declare what people want and therefore it must be so.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:30
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Just had a look at the results of that "World Cup of MPs" on twitter. Semi finals are done and... The final will be JC, Dawn Butler, Caroline Lucas and Alison Thewliss (SNP), so not a single Tory in the final 
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Sep 17, 2020 17:39
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Would be nice if dawn won it, though JC/DB splitting the vote and someone else winning would be the most appropriate outcome.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:40
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OwlFancier posted:It's great when politicians just declare what people want and therefore it must be so. There was just an article about this. https://twitter.com/LabGrassroots/status/1306591400767651840?s=20 It's quite good. Same thing I've been saying for a while essentially - The Right know they need to control the narrative to win, that's why they have the media bought up. Corbyn knew you need to control the narrative, too. Starmer is just trying to place himself in the exact position polling says he should be in, but in doing so he cedes ground to the Tory narratives against immigration, BLM, etc. etc. OwlFancier posted:Would be nice if dawn won it, though JC/DB splitting the vote and someone else winning would be the most appropriate outcome. Nah, doubt it'll happen. The person organising the twitter account seems to have tried hard to split the left vote a few times and it hasn't worked. JC will absolutely win, he's had twice the votes of anybody else in every round he's been in, pretty much. I'm not so confident Dawn will get 2nd but I hope so, I'd say there's a decent chance. Of course it doesn't matter one bit, just a bit of fun, but we should take every opportunity to boil centrist piss we can get.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:46
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I mean I personally think that starmer just actually believes all that poo poo and wants it to happen.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:52
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 Oh no... https://twitter.com/helenmallam/status/1306582450827661312 
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Sep 17, 2020 17:57
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Are Rabelaisians who toby thinks are responsible for spreading the pandemic?
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Sep 17, 2020 17:58
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I remember thinking in 2008, oh this recession starting up the now seems pretty bad, it's good timing for me that i'm just in first year of university, it'll all be sorted out by the time I graduate. Everything will get better again and we'll all be fine. I would guess not many freshers nowadays will be feeling the same way about, y'know, everything
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Sep 17, 2020 18:01
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Found a typo on the first line who's editing this crap.
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Sep 17, 2020 18:07
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Angepain posted:I remember thinking in 2008, oh this recession starting up the now seems pretty bad, it's good timing for me that i'm just in first year of university, it'll all be sorted out by the time I graduate. Everything will get better again and we'll all be fine. I would guess not many freshers nowadays will be feeling the same way about, y'know, everything tbh i'm mostly thinking about how i don't need to look for work until at least next summer, thank goodness
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Sep 17, 2020 18:12
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Found a typo on the first line who's editing this crap.  , as opposed to the other English monarchs who were famously non-hereditary and highly competent.The two examples given are really bizarre too. Like if you're claiming that Boris is Oliver Cromwell (I assume the military dictator version for forcing Toby to wear a mask), then surely James II or Richard III are better examples of deposed dictator monarchs, if you're going for incompetent playboy, Richard II and Edward VIII are right there (even if the latter was entirely voluntary after the government and Church of England made strong suggestions). Toby Young posted:The final straw was hearing him talk about his plans to create an army of ‘Covid marshals’ last week — Britain’s very own, curtain-twitching version of the Stasi. Do Not Let This Man Near Your Children posted:A less generous theory is that the disease actually damaged his brain in some way — and there is some evidence that cognitive decline can lower your appetite for risk. A Big Twat posted:Few would dispute that he failed to give the pandemic the attention he should have done in January and February, time he could have spent devising an effective containment strategy. Come March, he was just buffeted by events, one minute saying we should ‘take it on the chin’, the next imposing a full lockdown. His lack of engagement with the detail, both before and after his spell in intensive care, means the government’s response has been led by others around the cabinet table, like Matt Hancock, who seem to be wholly captured by a small coterie of scientific advisors who decided early on that Sars-CoV-2 was ‘the big one’ and have been unwilling to abandon that hypothesis in the light of all the evidence to the contrary.
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Sep 17, 2020 18:39
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I would absolutely dispute that boris johnson "could" have spent that time devising an effective containment strategy.
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Sep 17, 2020 18:41
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He could have copied South Korea's homework. Like, literally saying to SK "how much for a copy of your tracing system, with a full set of instructions on how to implement" would have cost less than a too-late lockdown. That would probably required a greater knowledge of how consequences work than the "I shook hands with all the patients" guy possesses, so I think the first step would have to be "stop being Boris Johnson."
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Sep 17, 2020 18:46
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sassassin posted:I made a mistake. There are too many birds, and they are too hungry. Supplies will not last long. There is no way out. It's autumn, they're grabbing everything they can while they can. Speaking of, I've started noticing gaps in the bog roll shelves.
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Sep 17, 2020 18:53
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Guavanaut posted:He could have copied South Korea's homework. In fairness, I don't think the British people would have accepted a phone-based tracking system in March (gently caress it, we won't even accept it now). The fact that local authority environmental health tracking teams were *at no point* activated to help out is rather more damning because we *might* have had a chance to get a handle on it in late Feb/early March when confirmed cases were still in the hundreds if we'd have treated it like any other infectious disease and got boring people with clipboards on it. However this would not have allowed them to shovel billions of pounds into the outsourcing furnace and so is completely incompatible with the way we do Government in this country.
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Sep 17, 2020 18:59
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Guavanaut posted:He could have copied South Korea's homework. Tory donors can't profit off that.
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Sep 17, 2020 19:04
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's autumn, they're grabbing everything they can while they can. You sure that's not just students going back?
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Sep 17, 2020 19:04
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I thinkgoddamnedtwisto posted:In fairness, I don't think the British people would have accepted a phone-based tracking system in March (gently caress it, we won't even accept it now). goddamnedtwisto posted:The fact that local authority environmental health tracking teams were *at no point* activated to help out is rather more damning because we *might* have had a chance to get a handle on it in late Feb/early March when confirmed cases were still in the hundreds if we'd have treated it like any other infectious disease and got boring people with clipboards on it. However this would not have allowed them to shovel billions of pounds into the outsourcing furnace and so is completely incompatible with the way we do Government in this country. It could be the innate nature of the Freeborn Englishman, but it's probably more likely that we've had decades of deteriorating public trust in government and vice versa because they keep doing this poo poo. I'm not sure I'd trust a UK government phone based tracking system, both in scope and accuracy. I'd trust it more if they had just said "how much for South Korea's?" because they at least seem to be showing basic competence and if Seoul really wants to hack us they can just ask Samsung and LG to do it. The loving app fiasco where Apple and Google said "hey here's a prepackaged solution you can just download and put your own branding on" and they hosed around for months spaffing money on their friends' firms instead is too typical.
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Sep 17, 2020 19:22
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's autumn, they're grabbing everything they can while they can.  
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Sep 17, 2020 19:34
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https://twitter.com/PGMcNamara/status/1306643329292161024?s=19 Didn't we just go through this? Didn't this just kill tens of thousands of people? How the gently caress are they still doing this.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:12
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Because the tories don't care about lives, especially not ones that aren't working and making them money.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:13
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The elderly must be sacrificed so that we don't pressure the government into giving the NHS more money and just clap for it instead.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:33
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Angepain posted:I remember thinking in 2008, oh this recession starting up the now seems pretty bad, it's good timing for me that i'm just in first year of university, it'll all be sorted out by the time I graduate. Everything will get better again and we'll all be fine. I would guess not many freshers nowadays will be feeling the same way about, y'know, everything 2008 was when I finally stopped dossing after crashing out of school early and I greatly enjoyed the one summer of decent work I got followed by a whole bunch of JSA
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OwlFancier posted:Because the tories don't care about lives, especially not ones that aren't working and making them money. the other one, not brendan oneil posted:Few would dispute that he failed to give the pandemic the attention he should have done in January and February, The optimist in me briefly emerged to posit that this is Boris finally running out of chances, and the bastards are finally getting the knives out and declaring that actually they were never in favour of him, who even is he, I have never heard of this person. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Sep 17, 2020 20:35
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Bobby Deluxe posted:No Lives Matter is a bold stance to take on the controversy. When u take that Ice T song as an instruction.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:41
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OwlFancier posted:Because the tories don't care about lives, especially not ones that aren't working and making them money. I think it's less how can the Tories keep doing it from the perspective that Tories can/want to learn from their mistakes/consider this a mistake, and more "How is the death of tens of thousands of eldery people not causing the violent overthrow of the government who were knowingly responsible and doubly How when they're about to do it again" because, without taking a stance on whether such an event would be Good or Bad or Desirable or Undesirable, you'd think it's the kind of thing that makes people kick off. I mean, if it was criminals or refugees or other wrong'uns I'd get it, however vile that fact is, but this is everyone's lovely old nans who slipped them a tenner with a wink, and gave them sweeties and told them not to tell mum about it, and grandads who spent Christmas morning helping to put together the Scalextric and a few years later when you were getting in trouble as a teen gave you sound life advice without giving you a bollocking like dad would if you asked him. Obviously I'm being a bit facetious here but that's part of the popular image of the olds, to say nothing of the general cultural expectation that we should take care of our elderly and we "probably should give nan a call more often" and so on.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:45
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Bobby Deluxe posted:
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Ms Adequate posted:I think it's less how can the Tories keep doing it from the perspective that Tories can/want to learn from their mistakes/consider this a mistake, and more "How is the death of tens of thousands of eldery people not causing the violent overthrow of the government who were knowingly responsible and doubly How when they're about to do it again" because, without taking a stance on whether such an event would be Good or Bad or Desirable or Undesirable, you'd think it's the kind of thing that makes people kick off. I mean, if it was criminals or refugees or other wrong'uns I'd get it, however vile that fact is, but this is everyone's lovely old nans who slipped them a tenner with a wink, and gave them sweeties and told them not to tell mum about it, and grandads who spent Christmas morning helping to put together the Scalextric and a few years later when you were getting in trouble as a teen gave you sound life advice without giving you a bollocking like dad would if you asked him. If I were to extrapolate based on my experience with my mother's attitude to the eldery relatives she has put in homes, it might start out that way but over time it fades, they become burdensome, the quarantine has been an excellent excuse to stop going, and while I am sure she will be momentarily sad when her mother dies, she will get over it soon enough. Also there are a lot of grandparents in the country and a lot more of them need to die before it will constitute something that has affected a significant proportion of the population. Tens of thousands of deaths is barely a rounding error. An industrial society of millions can lose tens of thousands and not even notice.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:52
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Latest pod episode is hot off the presses, and we even managed to get Mic Wright to come back on as a guest. (Also recording in a heatwave made us all lose our loving minds - it was like 25 degrees at night on Tuesday when we did this - we suffer for your amusement) https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1306681915894890496?s=20
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Sep 17, 2020 20:57
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OwlFancier posted:When u take that Ice T song as an instruction. I like that song, but I felt the difference between 'all lives matter' and 'no lives matter' was a bit subtle for the current climate. Granny chat: you guys do realize that you can be a fully legitimate grandparent at the age of 35 don't you! Lots of grandparents in their 40s and SOME ITT are not unadjacent to that age! I'm not a granny but many of my contemporaries (and up to 10 years younger are) - we don't look like this anymore  My mother who is in her early 80s and looks about 20 years younger than the woman in this picture is a great-grandmother. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Sep 17, 2020 |
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Sep 17, 2020 21:11
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Angepain posted:I remember thinking in 2008, oh this recession starting up the now seems pretty bad, it's good timing for me that i'm just in first year of university, it'll all be sorted out by the time I graduate. Everything will get better again and we'll all be fine. I would guess not many freshers nowadays will be feeling the same way about, y'know, everything I was 2 years into my first decent job back then, and thinking that house prices will tumble and be affordable. Instead I have spent the time since giving my landlord most of a house.
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Sep 17, 2020 21:24
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Granny chat:
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Sep 17, 2020 21:35
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I generally just slot everyone with grey hair into the granny/granddad category. This despite me being more grey than not at age 30.
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Sep 17, 2020 21:41
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OwlFancier posted:I generally just slot everyone with grey hair into the granny/granddad category. I'll swap your greying at 30 for my hair loss at 30
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Sep 17, 2020 21:45
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Oh yeah I'm not complaining if anything I wish it would hurry up so I can go around pretending to be gerald of riverside. And I would absolutely prefer it to hair loss which happily seems to be confined to the men in my mother's side of the family. I started greying at about age 15, 30 is just when it got probably more than halfway through.
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Sep 17, 2020 21:49
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OwlFancier posted:If I were to extrapolate based on my experience with my mother's attitude to the eldery relatives she has put in homes, it might start out that way but over time it fades, they become burdensome, the quarantine has been an excellent excuse to stop going, and while I am sure she will be momentarily sad when her mother dies, she will get over it soon enough. Being incredibly blunt, concentrating deaths in care homes that people can't visit is a solid strategy (if you are an evil bastard i.e a Tory). It keeps the deaths out of people's sight, out of the news largely. It means you can boost the "it's just like the flu" story if you need to because the people suffering are in closed locations that families/friends can't visit. Also lets the government easily shift blame for lots of deaths to the care home providers if there are stories in the press, angry families or an inquiry.
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hell of a photo https://twitter.com/leechwaifu/status/1306598207233744896?s=20
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