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You know, I went looking for the origin of this meme, and the earliest reference I can find predates the internet, in this 1979 article from Rolling Stone which is about vans and the people who drive vans and the people who drink while they are driving vans and the festivals they drive them to and it's so much fun to read I felt compelled to share: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/the-national-truck-in-invasion-of-the-ignoroids-45425/ quote:“I would say we’ve had true inter-truckinary ignorance for about three years now. That’s creative ignorance, where the term ‘Ignorance through Research’ came from. What I like about these events is buildin’ things with my buddies, creatin’ an environment where you can cut loose. If people stay the same all the time, they go nuts, you know? But if you call someone just plain ignorant, or disgustin’ ignorant, to me that’s not a compliment. That’s like when you were a kid and didn’t have anythin’ to do so you got into a fight.” Sounds like Burning Man except less insufferable. And with more vans.
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Ah man, uprooted trees can definitely do that. End bind bucking is always sketchy as hell. I usually use the very tip of my bar to cut the last piece holding it so I can move out of the way in a hurry. I end bind bucked a tree on a downhill once, and as soon as that last little bit was cut through, the entire tree (so about 100 foot of log) rolled down a hill forty yards before coming to rest against another tree, smashing manzanita and saplings as it went.
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Apparently, the thread namesake hasn't been doing too well in response to our contemporary situation: https://twitter.com/jamieson/status/1306611160624640000?s=20
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aphid_licker posted:Camp fire was caused by the failure of a 97 year old cast iron hook that was holding up a 115kV line For some reason, using a hook seems nuts to me, though I don't see how a bolted joint would be a better solution. I'd at least add a safety line like the one in my garage that catches the springs if the connectors break.
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Uthor posted:For some reason, using a hook seems nuts to me, though I don't see how a bolted joint would be a better solution. Aren’t they changing them suspended from helicopters sometimes? The problem isn’t the hook concept it’s using a 100 year old one with corrosion cracking
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Sep 18, 2020 01:35
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If you never look for problems you never find any, and if you never find any problems you never need to fix any!
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zedprime posted:She needs to rotate her tires. Just want you to know I appreciated this.
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Pacra posted:Apparently, the thread namesake hasn't been doing too well in response to our contemporary situation: speaking of tip of the iceberg who knows what insane poo poo we'll see because the freaks in charge of these regulations now answering that question would be a great labor safety thread in CSPAM
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Sep 18, 2020 03:06
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Uthor posted:For some reason, using a hook seems nuts to me, though I don't see how a bolted joint would be a better solution. It's a massive thing, and it's part of a system designed to move with the weather. The wire rides in the hook. They're designed to be replaced as they wear down. They should never get this bad:  The Camp Fire hook actually broke at that notch.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:09
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97 to 100 years in use and probably never inspected. Good grief...
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aphid_licker posted:Camp fire was caused by the failure of a 97 year old cast iron hook that was holding up a 115kV line To be precise, 97 years old is their best guess because they don't actually have records on any of that infrastructure. That was a big surprise to me (the age, not the losing records part), I always figured those giant transmission towers were a product of the 1950's or 60's, just because that seemed like a big period of large infrastructure projects like the interstate and all that.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:28
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The hook was converted to shareholder value.
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Sep 18, 2020 03:28
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The design was actually pretty drat good, given that it lasted 97 years.
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The Lone Badger posted:The design was actually pretty drat good, given that it lasted 97 years. Actually it was overbuilt, considering that it outlasted its creators. They should switch to a hook 1/10 the thickness and convert the high upfront cost into an ongoing revenue stream.
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CarForumPoster posted:Aren’t they changing them suspended from helicopters sometimes? The problem isn’t the hook concept it’s using a 100 year old one with corrosion cracking lol gently caress it wasn't even corrosion it was just the physical action of grinding the metal of the hook against the metal of the cables for a hundred years. if you look at the photos of the hook itself, it actually has very little oxidation and degredation. this was straight up some water carving a canyon poo poo
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Plus, would they have even used helicopters 100 years ago? Wikipedia says this was the first full-production helicopter, and that was 80 years ago.
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Sex Skeleton posted:Actually it was overbuilt, considering that it outlasted its creators. They should switch to a hook 1/10 the thickness and convert the high upfront cost into an ongoing revenue stream. Make it a subscription model. The hook and end plate are from different manufacturers, and you pay them a yearly rate to make sure the hook isn’t actually made of Jell-O and won’t tear loose at the lightest breeze. If you don’t, well, enjoy your fires. EDIT: they will diversify or go out of business within a year and leave you with no maintenance or documentation.
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Sep 18, 2020 04:37
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Just take the forests around all the power lines.
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Sep 18, 2020 04:38
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Nocheez posted:97 to 100 years in use and probably never inspected. Good grief... It was probably inspected. But the inspection was probably just someone cruising past in a truck every few years to see if it was still standing.
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Varkk posted:It was probably inspected. But the inspection was probably just someone cruising past in a truck every few years to see if it was still standing. Thats exactly what the thread says. They fly by them in helicopters and "yup, still there" then zoom away.
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Just take the forests around all the power lines. See, that's the beauty of it! Every hundred years or so the lines automatically clear tens of thousands of acres around them, and they don't even charge you for the additional service!
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Sep 18, 2020 04:56
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I'm wondering how many people saw a hook with a neatly worn down notch and assumed it was actually an intentional notch
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bonelessdongs posted:I'm wondering how many people saw a hook with a neatly worn down notch and assumed it was actually an intentional notch 0 
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iwentdoodie posted:Thats exactly what the thread says. They fly by them in helicopters and "yup, still there" then zoom away. If only there were some king of high tech, allowing travel across distances and seeing things, what if we can invent little flying things, and attach camera to them.. and call them drones or something dunno 
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Just take the forests around all the power lines. This right here is actually the source of the current kerfuffle in my county. PG&E has an Enhanced Vegetation Management program where they remove trees in any area with a frequent fire return interval that have any kind of defect. Some of my friends are contractors for companies on that contract. People are mad. On one hand, people don't want lines starting fires and on the other, how dare PG&E clear the right of way on my property? It doesn't seem to be a possibility to most folks that you can't have it both ways. Sure, you can put lines underground but the last quote I heard 1.4 million dollars for a mile of line. These people want to live in their low density housing development out in the country and have all of the amenities, but don't want any of the hassle of maintaining those services.
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The White Dragon posted:lol gently caress it wasn't even corrosion it was just the physical action of grinding the metal of the hook against the metal of the cables for a hundred years. if you look at the photos of the hook itself, it actually has very little oxidation and degredation. this was straight up some water carving a canyon poo poo It actually wasn’t grinding against the cable but against a metal plate it was suspended from. A metal plate that had been bolted on because the original part the hook was holding on to had already been worn down. When they bolted on that plate they would have seen the wear on the hook.
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Zopotantor posted:It actually wasn’t grinding against the cable but against a metal plate it was suspended from. A metal plate that had been bolted on because the original part the hook was holding on to had already been worn down. When they bolted on that plate they would have seen the wear on the hook. "This hook's got wear on it." "We're not here to replace the hook, we're here to bolt on this plate. We'll mention it when we get back, someone will do something about it at some point" later "Eh it's got a good ten years or so left at least, and buying new hooks would cost a bunch, so we'll do it later."
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agrielaios posted:If only there were some king of high tech, allowing travel across distances and seeing things, what if we can invent little flying things, and attach camera to them.. and call them drones or something dunno I work for a small lines company and we are actually looking at bringing in drones for inspection and surveys for new lines. There is a bunch of red tape to work through to get it happening. Especially for the inspections as that will require a close approach permit and since this is a new kind of inspection etc there is no current procedure for granting it.
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The Lone Badger posted:The design was actually pretty drat good, given that it lasted 97 years. My thoughts, too. I bet the original design spec was for something to last 25 years, with a full inspection every 10 years - the problem being that all the people who knew this retired from the company...then their replacements retired..then the replacements' replacements retired and this knowledge was lost.
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In local truckfuckling, a courier service ignored the high wind speed warnings on the Auckland harbour bridge: A second truck then got blown into the superstructure of the bridge. Worst part is, the other way across the harbour would've only cost them seven minutes.
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Varkk posted:I work for a small lines company and we are actually looking at bringing in drones for inspection and surveys for new lines. There is a bunch of red tape to work through to get it happening. Especially for the inspections as that will require a close approach permit and since this is a new kind of inspection etc there is no current procedure for granting it. So private sectors can't yet do the job that good guy bureaucracy can't be arsed to try to do at all
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No it is more one division of the company can’t do it because another division in the same company hasn’t defined the rules on doing it yet. Although one thing they did set on is requiring the drone pilot be recognised by the CAA and to do that they need to log a number of hours using a drone in a professional setting. Of course they can’t exactly get those hours until they have a framework for flying the inspections on the lines. They are doing some work on it on a trial basis until they actually define the proper rules.
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Dammit, why do the good ones not have audio?
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Humphreys posted:Dammit, why do the good ones not have audio? https://news.sky.com/video/cyclist-almost-gets-hit-by-train-after-jumping-barriers-10873494
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Uthor posted:Plus, would they have even used helicopters 100 years ago? Wikipedia says this was the first full-production helicopter, and that was 80 years ago. Lovin' the safety-certified trilby!
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Uthor posted:Plus, would they have even used helicopters 100 years ago? Wikipedia says this was the first full-production helicopter, and that was 80 years ago. I'm the little basket in the front for when you go on a beer run.
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Ornamental Dingbat posted:Just take the forests around all the power lines. Meant to say rake but it autocorrected. 
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dialhforhero posted:I'm the little basket in the front for when you go on a beer run. The R4 looked much more like a modern aircraft. Imagine it though, crashing in the Burmese jungle and they send a grossly over-sized sycamore seed attached to an engine and two lawn chairs to the rescue. "You sure this thing is safe!?" "Want me to go back? No? Ok, hop in."
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