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Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


HD DAD posted:

“Going to warp” would be a great euphemism for furiously masturbating

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Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.
It’s important to maintain eye contact throughout.




(The user name was inspired by Riker being involved something called The Fornax Disaster in Future Imperfect, and Fornax being a porno magazine found in Mass Effect).

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
I have deliberately forgone buying any tiny starships because one day I'm just going to buy a 3D printer when they become so easy that even an idiot like me can use one and then I'm going to extrude everything for a total of 50 bucks in plastic spools

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Eh, I picked up the little Eaglemoss Enterpise-D because it was suprisingly cheap and honestly just super good quality and detail for the small size, in a way that 3D printing probably won't for quite a long time.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Tighclops posted:

I have deliberately forgone buying any tiny starships because one day I'm just going to buy a 3D printer when they become so easy that even an idiot like me can use one and then I'm going to extrude everything for a total of 50 bucks in plastic spools

I am an idiot and the Ender 3 Pro has been great. Although I still prefer the Eaglemoss type stuff for models because even at 0.12 layer heights the quality still isn’t quite enough for me. Plus you still have to paint the drat thing and deal with cleaning up any supports or gluing separate prints together.

Although, I do plan on eventually printing the Galaxy Quest ship just because there’s no other alternative out there.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

nine-gear crow posted:

I love how Troi gets blamed for crashing the Enterprise when the exact sequence of events in Generations is literally "Deanna! Take the helm!" followed IMMEDIATELY by "Helm control is offline!" The gently caress was she supposed to do? Get out and push? :v:

Rather than the saucer landing flat and skimming across the surface, I wanted to see it tilt over, roll for several thousand feet and end up spinning to a stop like a coin.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Hey, the JJPrise nearly tilted over when it crashed. (And then of course later in the movie it did do a flip)

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Ok, that one made me laugh.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
The JJ Prise is so weirdly balanced and heavy the moment it loses power it instantly starts dropping towards the nearest large body, even if it’s not in orbit or anything.

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008
Orbital mechanics was never Star Trek's strong suit.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Epinephrine posted:

Orbital mechanics was never Star Trek's strong suit.

thats not tru, you can tell Empok Nor is scary and evil bc of its attitude

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

The_Doctor posted:

Ok, that one made me laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHkeQ58_pQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Z3O9zHzkc

These are two of the best ones, for incredibly obvious reasons.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
On a long drive I started the Prime Directive audiobook and goddamn is it entertaining. Was surprised I’ve already made it through about two thirds of it.
It’s read by James Doohan and his Kirk is perfect.
There aren’t a ton of Trek audiobooks on Overdrive, and most of the ones on there don’t have great reviews, so I imagine I’ll blast through the ones I want to listen to pretty quickly.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Unmature posted:

On a long drive I started the Prime Directive audiobook and goddamn is it entertaining. Was surprised I’ve already made it through about two thirds of it.
It’s read by James Doohan and his Kirk is perfect.
There aren’t a ton of Trek audiobooks on Overdrive, and most of the ones on there don’t have great reviews, so I imagine I’ll blast through the ones I want to listen to pretty quickly.

If I remember correctly he also read kobayashi Maru and it was pretty good too.

Pacra
Aug 5, 2004

Unmature posted:

Followup question: Is there a better place to ask for people’s favorite Trek comics and books? If not then, pretend I just asked that.
And if it’s been discussed to death on here what page should I jump to?

I love talking about the trek comics, but usually this thread moves too fast to catch up after a few weeks :)

I thought a lot of the Trek comics were of very high writing and art quality. Some of my favorites are from the DC volume 2 of TOS, which was mostly written by Peter David, known for his Marvel 80s/90s work on Incredible Hulk and 2000s work on X-Factor.

It's good stuff and I think I started to review the first couple of issues in this thread if you namesearch. I fell off the wagon, but maybe I'll start it up again and index the lot.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Pacra posted:

I love talking about the trek comics, but usually this thread moves too fast to catch up after a few weeks :)

I thought a lot of the Trek comics were of very high writing and art quality. Some of my favorites are from the DC volume 2 of TOS, which was mostly written by Peter David, known for his Marvel 80s/90s work on Incredible Hulk and 2000s work on X-Factor.

It's good stuff and I think I started to review the first couple of issues in this thread if you namesearch. I fell off the wagon, but maybe I'll start it up again and index the lot.

The dark horse omnibuses are out of print but some can be found cheap. I’ll probably order the ones that aren’t super pricey soon or just go digital. I’m a big Peter David fan.

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006
I never read the comics but I liked his novels.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

8one6 posted:

If I remember correctly he also read kobayashi Maru and it was pretty good too.

Yep, I found the audiobook tape of it at a library book sale and his voicework was excellent. It's also where you get the story of Scotty purposely glitching out the Kobayashi Maru test so he can get transferred out of the command track.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
Everyone should read/listen to Prime Directive. It’s one of the more consistent stories I’ve seen about the concept of the PD and has a very harrowing Enterprise action sequence.
The whole thing of Kirk being so publicly disgraced that he fucks off from Starfleet and within four months is just loading boxes onto cargo ships and talking about how humiliating it is to have to pay for food and transit and Spock working at a desk felt pretty raw and real. Reminded me of City On the Edge of Forever but worse because they weren’t just waiting to time travel, their lives and careers were just over.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Angry_Ed posted:

Yep, I found the audiobook tape of it at a library book sale and his voicework was excellent. It's also where you get the story of Scotty purposely glitching out the Kobayashi Maru test so he can get transferred out of the command track.

The way Kirk reprograms the simulator is far cooler in the book too.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Astroman posted:

The way Kirk reprograms the simulator is far cooler in the book too.

I wish 09 had shown Kirk reprogramming the test first, because the actual KM scene in the movie is funny as hell. But it would have made Kirk's flippant arrogance feel a tiny bit more earned for that scene.

Pacra
Aug 5, 2004

Unmature posted:

The dark horse omnibuses are out of print but some can be found cheap. I’ll probably order the ones that aren’t super pricey soon or just go digital. I’m a big Peter David fan.

Here's the link to my original trek comics rundown - I don't think I mentioned the dark horse ones and I'm sure i missed a ton more of other trek stuff, this was cobbled from my own experience with the licensed ones I was able to grab or remember from the 90s.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Pacra posted:

Here's the link to my original trek comics rundown - I don't think I mentioned the dark horse ones and I'm sure i missed a ton more of other trek stuff, this was cobbled from my own experience with the licensed ones I was able to grab or remember from the 90s.

This rules thank you!

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

Epinephrine posted:

Orbital mechanics was never Star Trek's strong suit.

TOS's Galileo Seven is a good episode but it seems kind of lovely that a 23rd century Federation shuttle that's out of fuel apparently can't survive a sub-orbital re-entry without burning up.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Number_6 posted:

TOS's Galileo Seven is a good episode but it seems kind of lovely that a 23rd century Federation shuttle that's out of fuel apparently can't survive a sub-orbital re-entry without burning up.

That few episodes in back in '67 they were probably still operating on known 60s space science and not magic shields and "duranium".

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

[Deep Space 9, 2375, Vic’s Lounge]

Bashir: You know what we need to do to solve this problem


O’Brien: heist? heist-

Command Staff: [chanting] heist, Heist

Rest of the Cast: [pounding the table] Heist, HEIST, HEIST!



Sisko: [throwing open the doors] HEIIIIIISSSST!

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

nine-gear crow posted:

I wish 09 had shown Kirk reprogramming the test first, because the actual KM scene in the movie is funny as hell. But it would have made Kirk's flippant arrogance feel a tiny bit more earned for that scene.

I think that would have required a heist sequence to be worth it, which would have taken up too much of the film with something that's really only there as a WoK callback. I think there was a deleted scene where it's revealed that Kirk gets access through the Orion girl he's with in Uhura's quarters and I think that was rightly cut because it makes Kirk a really lovely person.

e: also 09 changes Kirk's character and the meaning of the test. In WoK the implication is that Kirk cheats because he wants to demonstrate he'll go a step further than anyone else to solve an unsolvable problem - that's why he gets the commendation. In 09 there's a little bit of a hint that that would be the outcome if the academic hearing wasn't suspended by the events of the film, but the implication of what we are shown is that Kirk cheats because he likes breaking rules.

Alchenar fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Sep 21, 2020

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Alchenar posted:

I think that would have required a heist sequence to be worth it, which would have taken up too much of the film with something that's really only there as a WoK callback. I think there was a deleted scene where it's revealed that Kirk gets access through the Orion girl he's with in Uhura's quarters and I think that was rightly cut because it makes Kirk a really lovely person.

e: also 09 changes Kirk's character and the meaning of the test. In WoK the implication is that Kirk cheats because he wants to demonstrate he'll go a step further than anyone else to solve an unsolvable problem - that's why he gets the commendation. In 09 there's a little bit of a hint that that would be the outcome if the academic hearing wasn't suspended by the events of the film, but the implication of what we are shown is that Kirk cheats because he likes breaking rules.

The deleted scenes also show the same Orion girl getting sent to one of the ships that gets immediately hosed up over Vulcan, so it was doubly lovely in how it treated her until cooler heads pared it back.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

nine-gear crow posted:

The deleted scenes also show the same Orion girl getting sent to one of the ships that gets immediately hosed up over Vulcan, so it was doubly lovely in how it treated her until cooler heads pared it back.

No I think that's in the film. She's next to Uhura when the assignments are going out and gets something that's not the Enterprise.

What was cut was a scene on the Enterprise where Kirk apologises to an Orion girl and it turns out she's not the one he manipulated, so he would have been incredibly poo poo, sexist, and implicitly racist.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Alchenar posted:

e: also 09 changes Kirk's character and the meaning of the test. In WoK the implication is that Kirk cheats because he wants to demonstrate he'll go a step further than anyone else to solve an unsolvable problem - that's why he gets the commendation. In 09 there's a little bit of a hint that that would be the outcome if the academic hearing wasn't suspended by the events of the film, but the implication of what we are shown is that Kirk cheats because he likes breaking rules.

It's helped a little by the fact that it says it's his third time doing the test, despite repeating it being unnecessary. It makes it seem that he's personally pissed off by the premise of the test.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

MikeJF posted:

It's helped a little by the fact that it says it's his third time doing the test, despite repeating it being unnecessary. It makes it seem that he's personally pissed off by the premise of the test.

Not really. Shatner Kirk cheats because he wants to win. Pine Kirk cheats because gently caress Authority. (I mean, Shatner's Kirk rejects the premise of the test because he doesn't believe in a no-win scenario. Pine's Kirk rejects the test because he's offended by the idea that the Academy sets a test that's not winnable. It's subtly different).

This is just the well trodden ground on how JJ only saw movie Kirk, and didn't appreciate that original movie Kirk is a guy at the end of his career who's earned the right to decide to say 'gently caress the rules', rather than a guy at the start of his career who would just be kicked out.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I like the novel version of shatner kirk's cheat, where all he does is give himself a big reputation in the simulation, and force the klingons to back down on the strength of it. And then when called on it, says that when he gets out of the academy he will earn that reputation.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Tunicate posted:

I like the novel version of shatner kirk's cheat, where all he does is give himself a big reputation in the simulation, and force the klingons to back down on the strength of it.

They also use that in the PC version of the Starfleet Academy game that Interplay put out back in like 1997.

HOLY FUCK
Mar 31, 2007

Cats are terrifying, everyone knows that! 'Cause they're witches! And they've got knives in their feet!


Haha, that’s great and now my new favorite explanation.

I don’t know if i can watch the JJ trek movies again to be honest, i liked them well enough when they were released but it feels like Kirk succumed to Kirk Drift almost

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

HOLY gently caress posted:

I don’t know if i can watch the JJ trek movies again to be honest, i liked them well enough when they were released but it feels like Kirk succumed to Kirk Drift almost

Same boat. I liked the JJTrek movies well enough when I saw them in the theater (well, Into Darkness kind of sucked) but I've found I have no particular desire to revisit them.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

09 remains a great action film. I'm down a bit on JJ's version of Kirk, but just because he's a different character to original Kirk doesn't mean the film is bad.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
I can't remember any of the action from that movie except for that one dude falling off the drill and I think there was a part with a monster? JJ's trek movies are bad even at the things people say they're good at

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
ST09 is even more of a typical action blockbuster than First Contact and parts of it haven't aged well at all, but I maintain that it's still very watchable and fun. Just sit back and let Giacchino's score do its thing, but don't go in expecting any subtlety.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Astroman posted:

The way Kirk reprograms the simulator is far cooler in the book too.

Klingons: "This is THE James T Kirk?"

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Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

ST09 is even more of a typical action blockbuster than First Contact and parts of it haven't aged well at all, but I maintain that it's still very watchable and fun. Just sit back and let Giacchino's score do its thing, but don't go in expecting any subtlety.

I really like it as a sort of Star Trek-themed special effects reel, that's about it

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