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Niric posted:This is a very strange statement to make. Not because it's not the kind of thing that the tories would do, but because the "moonshot" is an entirely fictional concept whose large numbers are plucked from the aether with no basis in reality. Why bother to make any statement about the cost (or not) of something that does not, currently cannot, and most likely will not exist? It's the opposite of plausible deniability. If you make up enough details then people start to doubt that it's fiction, especially as the news will give these perspectives equal credence because that's how journalistic balance works innit. I heard it'll be £49.99 for the one day version delivered into your thigh by industrial staplegun, or £10,000 for a lifetime vaccine administered in an aerosol of Chanel #5. There's going to be a vaccination centre in every loaf of Kingsmill. Edit: 108 is 3x3x3x2x2x1. Makes you think. Endjinneer fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:Is a "site team" not just the word for facilities? Like the people who make the site work rather than conduct the business for which the site is constructed?
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Cockfosters soon to be sponsored by an Australian lager and Victoria by a lingerie brand
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It does raise the concern that if they are treating facilities the way a lot of chain businesses do and having a roaming team of people who service multiple sites, they might farm that out to another company and I am skeptical of whether they will bother to do the appropriate checks you would expect for someone working around children. "The only person who has access to it is the guy who shows up in a van every week to fix the electrics" is not a super encouraging idea.
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As someone who went to a lovely school where the toilets were THE place to beat the gently caress out of someone precisely because there were no cameras or teachers, I'm not sure I'm that worried pedos will be watching my kids wash their hands. Obviously I don't care if the school gets vandalised, but if people are actually being hurt (which they were when I was at school) is there a better way of stopping it than cameras?
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Speaking personally even if the teachers know about it they probably won't do anything because they probably don't care. Also they can't and won't do anything about non physical abuse.
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I have to give my DBS details to any school I visit - well, if they remember to ask, and most of them do these days - and generally if you're visiting enough that the staff recognise you on sight, someone's going to notice if your name isn't on the Safeguarding log. Really, the issue is that Academies are a law unto themselves in many ways. And the conflicts of interest that crop up all the loving time whenever anyone starts really digging through the way they spend or make their money would be a massive red flag if 'getting rich' wasn't the whole point of the exercise.
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OwlFancier posted:It does raise the concern that if they are treating facilities the way a lot of chain businesses do and having a roaming team of people who service multiple sites, they might farm that out to another company and I am skeptical of whether they will bother to do the appropriate checks you would expect for someone working around children. I highly doubt the head is the only one with access (as is claimed), but having been responsible for running security in multiple schools, the chances are that the on site security team (who would fall under the generic ‘facilities’ or ‘site team’ heading) would be responsible for running and monitoring it. Quite a few of the schools I worked at had bathroom cameras, though normally just covering the door rather than the sinks. Though these were all orthodox Jewish religious schools, so I guess a bit less chance of people getting jumped in the bogs?
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OwlFancier posted:Speaking personally even if the teachers know about it they probably won't do anything because they probably don't care. Also they can't and won't do anything about non physical abuse. There's plenty of physical abuse in schools for them to tackle. And yeah teachers knew and didn't care at my school. But at least cameras mean evidence which parents can demand is reviewed.
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OwlFancier posted:Speaking personally even if the teachers know about it they probably won't do anything because they probably don't care. Also they can't and won't do anything about non physical abuse. Yeah someone needed to get properly battered or someone needed to involve/threaten to involve a weapon before school gave a gently caress about anything.
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Its mostly about if its on school premises, or not. If it is, they can give half a gently caress as it may result in the school being sued. If it is outside, no fucks given, its a police, private, or whatever authority matter. My mum used to be a school assistant. Was pushed over by a kid (with a run of anger and behavioral problems) resulting in wrist problems for a few years as she landed on it. It just happened outside of school grounds, literally 3 foot of the front gates, and the school went 'lol outside, not our problem!'. Kid's parent threatened to sue the school and mum, and the school still said it was nothing to do with them.
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kingturnip posted:I have to give my DBS details to any school I visit - well, if they remember to ask, and most of them do these days - and generally if you're visiting enough that the staff recognise you on sight, someone's going to notice if your name isn't on the Safeguarding log. Those Hikvision cameras are trivially hackable over the internet (and don't function at all without an internet connection). The dodgy van can be on the other side of the road or the other side of the world.
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happyhippy posted:Its mostly about if its on school premises, or not. Wait, your Mum got her wrist all busted up and the kid who did it's parents wanted to sue her and the school? How the gently caress would that ever stand up in court? An old friend of mine got her wrist broken as a teaching assistant by some prick kid kicking a football full blast at her. In a tight corridor inside the school. This was about 13 years ago, and the school just went 'lol we're going to do precisely gently caress all about this, take us to court, it'll never go anywhere.' Nice system.
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The coworker who sits next to me came in after being in bed at home for 3 days with "just a cold", coughing and looking worse for wear. Also didn't put on a mask until I asked him too. Taking bets on coronachan saying hi. VVVV I choose to believe that's a reply to me, kinda upset tbh. If not beyond mild tutting, because, well, obviously. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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What them childer need is for to be beat merciless 
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A new-build school I worked at ~10 years ago had unisex (is that term OK? Apologies if not) toilets, where there were just these large semi-circles of individual cubicles right in the middle of different areas of the school. This was designed on the basis that a lot of the worst behaviour takes place in the toilets. It actually worked really well, as they managed to retain complete privacy for kids actually going to the loo or wanting to be in a cubicle, while getting rid of the actual 'toilets' as a generic space where lots of kids can congregate and no teachers can go. Not sure how nice it would have been to take a big dump in them, mind.
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sounds ideal. And why would "unisex" not be ok, you spod?
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Like solid wall structure cubicles or flimsy chipboard on legs cubicles?
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Man woe betide you needed a shite during actual breaks at my school, for some reason there were at least 2 groups of kids that hung about in the bigger ones, and as soon as you hit that cubicle expect banging on the door & random litter getting chucked over into the cubicles. 30 years hindsight says 'why on earth would you choose to hang about in a grim bog that forever smells of piss', but once someone said 'just use the 6th form or old Sports Hall ones' everything was peaceful. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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Keith's key note starting off with "we failed in December because we didn't listen". EDIT: Oh god Ruth is still standing in shot, she's going to have to awkwardly walk off camera. SpaceCommie fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Perfect. I don't think he's said anything at all yet except that he's angry. Oh no, an extended metaphor about being shadow ministers. This is bad, send the script back to the editors. Fake EDIT: "We deserved to lose the last election, for not listening to people"
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stev posted:So tomorrow's announcements will literally just be pubs and restaurants closing an hour early? After today's announcement that we're all hosed? https://twitter.com/Billie_T/status/1308158327382212608
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'a new leadership' lol is that really the slogan. Might as well own it and have gone with NO JEREMIES CLUB
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kecske posted:'a new leadership' lol is that really the slogan. Might as well own it and have gone with NO JEREMIES CLUB We can have one, then.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/work-from-home-if-you-can-coronavirus-says-michael-gove - people should work from home if they can! Whoop whoop! Now to see how many employers go along with it...
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It's nice to see that Labour is taking responsibility for Jo Cox's assassination
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SpaceCommie posted:"We deserved to lose the last election, for not listening to people" It's really impressive when he was shadow Brexit secretary for that election and the very person pushing a second referendum. Almost as impressive as Sam Mathews being hailed as a whistle blower for the very department he ran not tackling antisemitism. It really seems you can simultaneously cause a problem, and then later staunchly rail against it... as long as the press think you're one of the good ones.
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The Perfect Element posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/work-from-home-if-you-can-coronavirus-says-michael-gove - people should work from home if they can! I imagine PCS are laughing their asses off at not having to spend money balloting strike action to prevent the death march back to Whitehall
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Goldskull posted:Man woe betide you needed a shite during actual breaks at my school, for some reason there were at least 2 groups of kids that hung about in the bigger ones, and as soon as you hit that cubicle expect banging on the door & random litter getting chucked over into the cubicles. 30 years hindsight says 'why on earth would you choose to hang about in a grim bog that forever smells of piss', but once someone said 'just use the 6th form or old Sports Hall ones' everything was peaceful. Thanks for coming to my TED talk. My secondary was exactly like this. Cameras on the doors seems positively benign, they should have had sniffer dogs and metal detectors in the bogs. By the time I got to year 11, they were completely locked down all day and you had to go and get a key with a block of wood attached, like at a remote petrol station. This did not remedy the issue of kids being in immense physical discomfort from holding it in all day as the cause changed from 'not wanting to get filled in' to 'too embarrassing to ask for permission to take a dump', but it did stop mirrors being smashed and paper towel dispensers set on fire on a weekly basis, so from an asset/site maintenance perspective, problem totally solved!
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Guavanaut posted:Good morning from normal country. On the day that the leader does his big speech this is going to be the story isn't it. Good job Labour! Desiderata posted:It's really impressive when he was shadow Brexit secretary for that election and the very person pushing a second referendum. Frustrating that there was no analysis of why Labour lost. What weren't we listening to the people on? Oh sorry you just meant to make people think of Corbyn and they'd fill in the blanks with whatever reason they already have. Got it.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Like solid wall structure cubicles or flimsy chipboard on legs cubicles? They were solid, with ceiling-to-floor height doors.
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So Jewdas want the Labour Party to become Tories. Right.
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Great example of why labour Ur accepting the Tory narrative, as they're currently doing, ends badly https://twitter.com/hoodedman1187/status/1308325029684432896?s=19
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Guavanaut posted:Good morning from normal country. This is due to https://twitter.com/rachshabi/status/1308290848673718272?s=20 Jedit posted:So Jewdas want the Labour Party to become Tories. Right. Quite the opposite I think https://twitter.com/jewdas/status/1308317262114324480?s=19 Lungboy fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Sep 22, 2020 |
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Jedit posted:So Jewdas want the Labour Party to become Tories. Right. That's quite a clear dig that from the moment they lost the Remain movement either did no self reflection whatsoever or waited until Corbyn was gone and apparently then it's right to leave and all that can be done is making sure we leave well.
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