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Ror posted:I thought it was something like the latter. Like just kidnapping a wife probably isn't enough to break the conditioning, so the Baron goes full on with the sadistic torture in order to get Yueh. But the ironic twist that the Baron doesn't realize is that it's Yueh's burning hatred for the Baron that really breaks the conditioning, not worry for his wife (and why he says several times that she's probably dead and it doesn't really even matter). I think Piter knew tho right ? I can’t remember it’s been awhile
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I bought this audiobook but haven't listened to it yet. But since apparently there is a movie coming out I was going to move it to the front of my queue. Is this the best version or should I try to exchange it for a different version? I have never read a Dune book or seen any of the movies. edit: here's the one I currently have https://www.audible.com/pd/Dune-Aud...CDVFSH5S4HW36KB
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Sep 23, 2020 01:04
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Thinking about what happened I guesss Piter did not know Rip Piter, Jamis
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Sep 23, 2020 01:17
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Why no Ghola Jamis?? Wtf Tleilaxu?
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I'm really not looking forward to the Yueh bits in Villeneuve's Dune. He's going to make me feel emotions about it all, it's going to kill me.
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:I bought this audiobook but haven't listened to it yet. But since apparently there is a movie coming out I was going to move it to the front of my queue. Is this the best version or should I try to exchange it for a different version? I've not really listened to the one I have. Sorry. Imagine you want something as background or w/e but the book is a pretty smooth read, really.
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[Middle of the southern bled] Me: [chanting] worm, worm- Other water-fat idiots: worm, WORM Mentat moron: [pounding the sand] WORM, WORM, WO- [Shai-hulud breaks through the dune crest and translates our dumb asses into the alam-al-mithal]
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Sep 23, 2020 02:46
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Bubblyblubber posted:[Middle of the southern bled]
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Sep 23, 2020 03:28
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Big dick sucking worm lips
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swallow they homies
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all i want from dune movie is at least one prominent use of the phrase "butlerian jihad" so i don't have to explain it to people
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Sep 23, 2020 15:48
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I am like 99% sure that would be impossible in the current world we live in and is going to be replaced by something like "The Crusade against machines" or "Great Thinking Machine Wars". I reserve my right of being proved wrong in the remaining 1%.
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:I bought this audiobook but haven't listened to it yet. But since apparently there is a movie coming out I was going to move it to the front of my queue. Is this the best version or should I try to exchange it for a different version? That's the one I have, and it's pretty good. Not sure about other versions, though. It was mentioned pages ago, but the narrator's voice for certain characters is very different from the voice actors'. The baron and Piter are the two big standouts to me. It can be a bit jarring sometimes, esp when they go from the VA to the narrator in the same chapter.
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Sep 23, 2020 16:18
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Let me tell you all about Space king Chaddam and young wizard Paul's righteous crusaders who have given an oath to lay down their lives
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Sep 23, 2020 17:08
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Leto II is the only person who knows that Ix is a corruption of the roman numeral but he's got one in his name. Shouldn't ever reverend mother have roman numerals in Other Memory also
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Sep 23, 2020 19:00
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Ingmar terdman posted:Leto II is the only person who knows that Ix is a corruption of the roman numeral but he's got one in his name. Shouldn't ever reverend mother have roman numerals in Other Memory also You could probably hand wave that away as "Leto II" is the English translation from future speak but Ix is literally Ix.
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Ingmar terdman posted:Leto II is the only person who knows that Ix is a corruption of the roman numeral but he's got one in his name. Shouldn't ever reverend mother have roman numerals in Other Memory also Leto Ayye.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:51
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William Bear posted:Leto Ayye. Imagine I posted a Photoshop of Leto II with him wearing a leather jacket and doing the Fonz finger point thing. Thanks in advance.
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Sep 23, 2020 19:57
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Also you can imagine him doing his magic jukebox hit thing, except he is thumping for a sandworm buddy.
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Ingmar terdman posted:Leto II is the only person who knows that Ix is a corruption of the roman numeral but he's got one in his name. Shouldn't ever reverend mother have roman numerals in Other Memory also Scytale mentions it during the treasonmoot at the very beginning of Messiah, so I figured it's just something that only pedantic nerds and immortal worm gods bother learning about. Though speaking of the various Letos, it always bugged me that Leto is Paul's father, Leto II is the worm god, but what does that make Paul's first son who gets killed at the end of Dune? Leto 1.5? Nobody ever points out how weird it is that he named his second son the same as his first son.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:20
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Though speaking of the various Letos, it always bugged me that Leto is Paul's father, Leto II is the worm god, but what does that make Paul's first son who gets killed at the end of Dune? Leto 1.5? Nobody ever points out how weird it is that he named his second son the same as his first son. I'm fairly certain it's at least explicitly mentioned somewhere
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Sep 23, 2020 20:24
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Scytale mentions it during the treasonmoot ... I had a chuckle at "treasonmoot", thank you good sir. Come to think of it, the treasonmoot is one of the baller-est scenes in the series. A hidden meeting in the middle of nowhere against a living god that can literally see into the future, controls the known universe and has a planet full of super soldiers worshipping him as their messiah. No trusts each other and know that every single being there is capable of betraying everyone in that room in a drop of a hat and possibly make a power grab in the microscopic chance of this working.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:26
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It is mentioned in Heretics as a former theological argument that was settled a generation ago
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Sep 23, 2020 20:27
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I have wondered if Frank ever said whether the first Leto son was something he wanted to get into the first book in case that was the only book. In other words if there was a guarantee from the start that he would get to do the first three books, would any of that changed? As far as I can remember his death is off-stage and is just used to up the stakes of the final confrontation. Lynch omits it outright, Scifi series shows the lead up the murder and then has Paul tell Chani that Leto is dead. e: skasion posted:The importance of Leto II 1 is mostly that Paul knows he’s dead without being told. Cool point I forgot this detail Ingmar terdman fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Sep 23, 2020 |
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Sep 23, 2020 20:27
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The importance of Leto II 1 is mostly that Paul knows he’s dead without being told.
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Sep 23, 2020 20:37
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Both Leto II's are of the same spirit and the same substance
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Sep 23, 2020 20:55
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Why even name a dead baby it's not like they'll ever remember it
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Colonel Cancer posted:Why even name a dead baby it's not like they'll ever remember it Because you remember it, dipshit.
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TK-42-1 posted:Because you remember it, dipshit. Yeah that's fair but what about Paul
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Sep 23, 2020 21:57
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So does Paul know that his son will be killed as a result of his plan to overthrow the emperor?
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Sep 23, 2020 22:41
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He’s a mentat so probably in the planning stages
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The trick is he's named Leto II because he's the second Leto after his BROTHER and Paul is just kind of an rear end in a top hat
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Shoehead posted:The trick is he's named Leto II because he's the second Leto after his BROTHER and Paul is just kind of an rear end in a top hat Leto II 2
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Sep 24, 2020 00:00
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Leto II 2 Leto II.1
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He was never announced as the Ducal heir of Paul, who was presumed dead at the time. Probably something to do with it. So maybe he would be Leto b10192 d10192 on their family tree, but it's not as though he had even come of age. Also whatever happens they better not Christianize the Muslim parts too much. Moving from Jihad to Crusade is one thing, but all the rest of the stuff is pretty well knit. Hoping they don't gently caress with it too much. You know how studios be.
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Sep 24, 2020 00:25
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I think Paul is just Cotton Hill and there's Leto and Good Leto I killed fiddy billion men
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Sep 24, 2020 01:19
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Paul of Dune is probably the better of the failson books and it describes things like Paul running a Jihad and Fenring trying his best to kill Paul. It's schlocky mediocre scifi with Dune characters.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:23
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Which was the one with Stilgar jumping out of an ornithopter dual-wielding crysknives and doing a sick flip before landing on a sandworm?
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euphronius posted:He’s a mentat so probably in the planning stages Ahh yes, the famous Stages of Grief. planning; denial; anger; bargaining; jihad; depression; spice orgy; acceptance.
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Tree Bucket posted:Ahh yes, the famous Stages of Grief.
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