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The Facebook 'on this day' thing informs me it's 4 years since Corbyn was elected leader. Feels like more, and not enough. E: his birthday was yesterday but here's the boy: 
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The_Doctor posted:Welcome to Mundane Meals. Reminds me of the Plan B Cafe I saw in Seoul.
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Sep 24, 2020 00:23
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sebzilla posted:Been playing in Tableau and made this: Sorry, could you explain? Basically there were more seats he made gains in than losses?
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Sep 24, 2020 00:26
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OwlFancier posted:He's saying that starmer thinks that, because voting against it would be unpatriotic. And you are entirely correct that abstaining still makes the tories trot out the same argument regardless, and it's also garbage legislation so if labour are too cowardly to oppose garbage legislation out of fear of the tories not liking it then what is the point of them even existing?
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Sep 24, 2020 00:37
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BizarroAzrael posted:Sorry, could you explain? Basically there were more seats he made gains in than losses? % of vote increased in 396 seats and dropped in 234, with some fairly heavy losses consistently across Scotland it looks like Gained 12 remain seats and 5 leave seats, lost 46 leave seats (the red wall). It's impressive that he lost zero net remain seats despite the LDs bullshit, just goes to show how much competence matters in a ratfucking.
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Sep 24, 2020 00:37
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Kernel Monsoon posted:
The bottom half of the this really needs to be made into a :keir: or something. How does that work?
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Sep 24, 2020 01:04
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You have to buy it, so maybe wait until lowtax is gone.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:09
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Guavanaut posted:St. Petroc's flag looks like it'd be a better fit for a United Ireland than Devon. Saint Piran's flag looks like it would be better for Devon. Baner Dewi looks like it would be better for Cornwall. Wales can keep their existing cool flag. You’re off your fuckin rocker
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Sep 24, 2020 01:13
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Endjinneer posted:The reason pillars and beams are so overspecified is because they didn't understand structural mechanics, so they threw a lot of material at it and hoped it would work. Often they'd mix techniques up completely. Ancient Greek architecture gets its distinctive style because it uses stone as if it is wood. The two materials have wildly different properties. Yup. The very first iron bridges used iron as if it were wood, complete with separately cast pieces and woodworking joints like mortise and tenon joints, because that was what they knew. https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/t/The_Iron_Bridge.htm Again it was over-engineered to poo poo though so although it was made with terrible methods, it's still standing 240 years later (though they did have to make some repairs to the foundations and stuff, the cast iron structure is all original).
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Sep 24, 2020 01:13
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Spangly A posted:% of vote increased in 396 seats and dropped in 234 Wiki says Labour had 232 seats in 2015 and 202 in 219, so either something is wrong with your math, or what it was counting didn’t matter. Corbyn absolutely did increase the overall number of people voting Labour over Milliband, Brown and (marginally) Blair’s last election. Ultimately, this is why anyone who thinks you can win solely from the center is an idiot. The problem is that good trend mattered little compared to the much bigger swings between between Tories and the Brexit Party. After switching policy to a 2nd referendum, Corbyn did weaken the LDs. But, meanwhile, Boris obliterated the Brexit Party. The only path to victory was to reverse that.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:15
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radmonger posted:Wiki says Labour had 232 seats in 2015 and 202 in 219, so either something is wrong with your math, or what it was counting didn’t matter. % of vote, not seats (also not my data). You can increase your voteshare in a seat and still lose it. 232-202 is 20 not 19 tho, so that'd be wrong unless that gray seat in bucks(?) is a did-not-stand I've forgotten about radmonger posted:But, meanwhile, Boris obliterated the Brexit Party. The only path to victory was to reverse that. He didn't obliterate them, they coordinated.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:21
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Comrade Fakename posted:CRISP EMERGENCY! CRISP EMERGENCY! I have an entire desk drawer of roast beef and mustard brannigans stuck in my office since Feb. I had to go into work to get some equipment two days ago and a few things off my desk. I thought hell yeah I can get my brannigans stash. After signoff from the CEO I went in to find the receptionist had helpfully gone and got all my stuff and put it in sealed bags for me by the front door so I didn't have to risk any exposure. Lovely really, but dammit. The crisps will have to wait until summer next year likely. Hope they're gonna still be good =( might be the last ones in the country! E: ebay has them for £30 for box of 40. Worth it. I bought two boxes. gently caress it, its my birthday soon. Mebh fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Sep 24, 2020 01:28
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You will be able to sell them for a high price by next summer I reckon.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:37
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This vote is the next abstaining or voting against the welfare bill isn't it.
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Sep 24, 2020 02:15
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WhatEvil posted:Yup. The very first iron bridges used iron as if it were wood, complete with separately cast pieces and woodworking joints like mortise and tenon joints, because that was what they knew. Quite a few of the members (fnarr) snapped almost immediately after completion because they didn't factor in thermal expansion and contraction and the cast iron they were using was incredibly brittle even by the standards of the day. They took the attitude that the structure obviously didn't need those bits because it didn't then fall down and they seem to have been right - the snapped bits are still there too because what's the point in taking them out? Thomas Telford's early cast iron aqueducts were even weirder - basically because he realised (and was possibly the first to do so) that cast iron worked best in compression, so he worked out incredibly strange designs that are conceptually two flattened steel bridges making up the sides of the canal with another two steel bridges on their sides between them making up the bottom deck, then waterproofed with a mixture of boiled sugar, lead, linen and ox blood that he supposedly copied from the Romans. Mind you he at least learned his lesson - his later aqueducts and bridges were basically all box girders writ extra large because even though the loads aren't great for cast iron the structure is so strong it doesn't actually matter. He still kept using ox blood in waterproofing both iron and brick structures though, which is frankly a bit weird.
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Sep 24, 2020 03:23
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3am UKMT. Excessive loads and snapped members.
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Sep 24, 2020 03:31
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Trying to find a particular bon mot from Telford's friend, poet lauerate Robert Southey, I came across this little gem:quote:Although originally a radical supporter of the French Revolution, Southey followed the trajectory of his fellow Romantic poets Wordsworth and Coleridge towards conservatism. Embraced by the Tory establishment as Poet Laureate, and from 1807 in receipt of a yearly stipend from them, he vigorously supported the Liverpool government. He argued against parliamentary reform ("the railroad to ruin with the Devil for driver"), blamed the Peterloo Massacre on an allegedly revolutionary "rabble" killed and injured by government troops, and spurned Catholic emancipation.[7] In 1817 he privately proposed penal transportation for those guilty of "libel" or "sedition". He had in mind figures like Thomas Jonathan Wooler and William Hone, whose prosecution he urged. Such writers were guilty, he wrote in the Quarterly Review, of "inflaming the turbulent temper of the manufacturer and disturbing the quiet attachment of the peasant to those institutions under which he and his fathers have dwelt in peace." Wooler and Hone were acquitted, but the threats caused another target, William Cobbett, to emigrate temporarily to the United States. Alas Georgian fashion in wigs make it impossible to tell what state his hairline was in, but I'm fairly certain we've found our Patient Zero of Brendan's Disease.
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Sep 24, 2020 03:45
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OwlFancier posted:3am UKMT. Excessive loads and snapped members. My sleep patterns are now completely hosed and I'm worried that I'm existing on less sleep than Thatcher. I tell you all this because I don't want to be the guy-who-got-bit-but-didn't-say-anything of the zombie movie that is UK politics in 2020, and I am perfectly happy for any of my UKMT comrades to remove my head the moment I look like privatising something.
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Sep 24, 2020 03:48
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I have to go to work for the first time in months today, because "there might be another lock down and it looks bad if you haven't been in for so long" Way to miss the point
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Sep 24, 2020 07:23
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Spangly A posted:% of vote, not seats (also not my data). You can increase your voteshare in a seat and still lose it. Yeah the data source doesn't count Northern Ireland (for obvious reasons) or either Speaker's seats (Bercow or Hoyle) which is why the total is 630 Not my data, it's from here if anyone else wants to play about : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Myl8IpeobHwTJQv4GPKHHIi5JrRXPgwOYh9Xl3uzh-E/edit?usp=sharing
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Sep 24, 2020 08:14
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Looking at that list of 18 Labour mps who voted against and seeing my favourites pop up yet again makes me glad they stick to their principles and feel happy that there are some willing to go against Keith Stairmaster.
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Sep 24, 2020 08:15
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OwlFancier posted:You will be able to sell them for a high price by next summer I reckon. The crisps or the boxes?
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Sep 24, 2020 08:26
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VideoGames posted:Looking at that list of 18 Labour mps who voted against and seeing my favourites pop up yet again makes me glad they stick to their principles and feel happy that there are some willing to go against Keith Stairmaster. Seeing my own MP on that list gives me very complex feelings about whether or not I should still be in the party.
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Sep 24, 2020 08:55
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Labour MPs briefing Guido Fawkes is some grim poo poo Not as grim as this though https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ep4w5j/british-military-prepares-for-climate-fueled-resource-shortages Jose fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Sep 24, 2020 09:00
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Nadia Whittome is my local MP and honestly she's up there with the best of them. I think she's donated most of her MP salary to charitable causes and is taking the UK average (which is still higher than you'd expect, but keeping 35k of like 80k is still donating >50% of your salary). The fact that she lost a position based on voting against legalising war crimes is uh... telling.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:04
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A human rights lawyer whipping to abstain on torture is it? More proof of my theory that human rights lawyers are actually people who fight against human rights.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:07
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Gonzo McFee posted:A human rights lawyer whipping to abstain on torture is it? Doesn't Starmer have history with being "pro warcrimes" in his role as prosecutor?
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Sep 24, 2020 09:12
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Surprise T Rex posted:Nadia Whittome is my local MP and honestly she's up there with the best of them. I think she's donated most of her MP salary to charitable causes and is taking the UK average (which is still higher than you'd expect, but keeping 35k of like 80k is still donating >50% of your salary). Because the world is horrible and I am a great example of it I assume she doesn't need the money.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:17
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Because the world is horrible and I am a great example of it I assume she doesn't need the money. It's not like she had a well-paid job or anything before becoming an MP. Didn't she work as a care assistant at a care home? And she's only 24, which isn't nearly enough time to Unless you're born rich, of course
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Sep 24, 2020 09:19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:then waterproofed with a mixture of boiled sugar, lead, linen and ox blood that he supposedly copied from the Romans
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Sep 24, 2020 09:28
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Seeing my own MP on that list gives me very complex feelings about whether or not I should still be in the party. Just checked and mine did too. Now I'm even more glad that Chuka hosed off and left that gap. 
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Sep 24, 2020 09:30
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Gonzo McFee posted:A human rights lawyer whipping to abstain on torture is it? I think Raab was also a human rights lawyer which says everything. I read a bit more on the subject and apparently abstaining rather than voting against gets you political good will when it comes to amending the bill or some shite.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:34
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Shades of: "We must not squander our political capital!" i.e. another bullshit excuse for doing nothing.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:47
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NHS app is now properly up and working, but it'll still say "for Isle of Wight and Newham only" unless you go into setting, clear the app cache, scrape the app files, and then reinstall it.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:50
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Also it turns out Corbyn coulda been firing mps this whole time I guess Finally got round to leaving labour E it's pretty hilarious starmer was just in the papers being noshed off for supporting "rule of law"
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Sep 24, 2020 09:54
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Lungboy posted:I think Raab was also a human rights lawyer which says everything. they've got an 80 seat majority, why on earth would they let labour have any say at any stage
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Sep 24, 2020 09:57
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So the app constantly uses bluetooth to scan nearby phones for positive test results? That sounds like something I don't want constantly running on my phone.
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Sep 24, 2020 09:59
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It's time. 
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Sep 24, 2020 10:00
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https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1258116337366446095 This aged well
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stev posted:So the app constantly uses bluetooth to scan nearby phones for positive test results? During the war people probably didn't want to turn that light out either.
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