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John F Bennett posted:Maybe this is Civ 7 and more. Civilization will now be just endless monthly updates. ...I would play Civ almost every month if this were the case. The only thing that wouldn't cause me to try the new stuff is a new multiplayer mode.
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yea if the new Civ model was a Paradox style 'here's some small DLC, every so often we'll have a big expansion thing but it's mostly just small stuff you can grab as you want, and that means Civ as a base game will last a long time' it'd be a smart move I think.
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Sep 24, 2020 16:55
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I think this model is mostly a fix to the blandness that was buying individual Civs paced out without much content besides maybe a weird scenario, which I think is less grabbing of people's attention in the latter's case. Instead of "here's a busted Civ as a standalone DLC, it comes also with this togglable game mode that adds [insert whacky fun here]" seems like a lot more guaranteed fun for your money, since scenarios often lack replayability.
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Sep 24, 2020 17:02
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sexpig by night posted:yea all these wacky modes are literal checkboxes you pick individually in the 'create game' screen, you can pick all or some or none. oh, but thats not what I meant I wanted to buy just the civs, without the game modes (hopefully cheaper, of course)
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Sep 24, 2020 17:09
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Elias_Maluco posted:oh, but thats not what I meant They're tied together. In individual packs based on the Civs, or as a DLC pass that gets you everything.
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Sep 24, 2020 17:17
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my favorite part of the new update is that it has apparently disabled the PLAY button in my Firaxis launcher
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Madmarker posted:Also, as someone who was skeptical, I highly recommend secret societies. It is a lot of fun to mess around with the combination of abilities you can get. Rough Rider Teddy with the Owls of Minerva is the Suzerain of all city states essentially. I'm not really using the other game modes but I can't give up secret societies now that I'm so used to the extra governor promotions. Usually I can do a build order of scout, scout, settler and by the time the settler is finished, I've already got Magnus with the Provision promotion, because the scouts have gotten me two or three promotions by that point.
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Sep 24, 2020 17:29
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Secret societies is an awesome game mode - so much fun, and the extra governor bonuses really smooth out the early game.
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Tom Tucker posted:Secret societies is an awesome game mode - so much fun, and the extra governor bonuses really smooth out the early game. Yeah, is the only one I feel I might enjoy. I dont like disasters all that much (I play on level 2) and those dramatic eras seems too dramatic
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homullus posted:my favorite part of the new update is that it has apparently disabled the PLAY button in my Firaxis launcher Yeah I updated as well and "play" doesn't seem to do anything!
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Sep 24, 2020 17:32
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I updated, then there was a second update and I was able to launch... but no new leaders/modes yet? :/
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skeleton warrior posted:I updated, then there was a second update and I was able to launch... but no new leaders/modes yet? :/ yeah, same. I can at least play today while I wait, now.
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Sep 24, 2020 18:04
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The Gauls broke Civ like they broke Rome. Just wait for the Caesar update.
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https://twitter.com/FiraxisGames/status/1309172163296010240 https://twitter.com/FiraxisGames/status/1309178600776704007 It worked for me after restarting Steam
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Sep 24, 2020 19:26
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Hmm let's see how some of this new stuff look--quote:Statue of Zeus Um, I think I know what wonder I'm rushing every single game as Zulu 
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Sep 24, 2020 19:26
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Super Jay Mann posted:Hmm let's see how some of this new stuff look-- lol jesus christ, I'm rushing that with loving everyone.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:38
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Shame it's spearmen, I wish anti-cav were (way) better than they are currently. The spear is the most basic weapon anyone can have, they should not lose to a bunch of guys with clubs! 
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Sep 24, 2020 20:40
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Super Jay Mann posted:Hmm let's see how some of this new stuff look-- This is 440 units of production as a reward for building a 540+ production wonder. Certainly it's cheaper to slap in Agoge and hard build these units? Too bad it's a production bonus to anti-cav
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Purely hypothetically, if one wanted a game with as much Rome as possible, which civs would one add as AI players? Obviously Rome, Byzantium, Germany, and Russia. I guess also the Ottomans. Are there any other obvious candidates? I guess one could always go for regional hegemonies like China and Aztec to round it out.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:46
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Purely hypothetically, if one wanted a game with as much Rome as possible, which civs would one add as AI players? Obviously Rome, Byzantium, Germany, and Russia. I guess also the Ottomans. Are there any other obvious candidates? I guess one could always go for regional hegemonies like China and Aztec to round it out. Spain, Macedonia, Greece, Egypt, England.
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Sep 24, 2020 20:51
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Nubia, Gaul...
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Basil's introduction thing calls him King Basil and I'm loosing my poo poo. Anyway, this is turning into 'people that the Romans fought' and less "more Romans". Rome, Byzantines, Ottomans, Russia, Germany, France all count as "Rome" claimants so you got a 6 player game rounded out right there.
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First impressions with Gaul and the Dramatic Ages. * I have never had such a boner for hills and mines. * The Gaesatae might be good for early conflicts, but the thing I noticed most was immediate +4 era score for UU out of the gate! * It's definitely harder to plan districts when you exclude the inner ring, but since they don't get adjacency from each other anyway it doesn't feel too bad. You just NEED MORE MINES. * The Oppidum adjacency makes for some fiddly placement * I've had one golden age so far. The card made it super easy to get a Great Prophet, which was nice. * Neighboring Norway had a dark age, but the free cities troops fought off my vampire and they just rejoined Norway anyway. Might be more interesting when I have a bigger military and/or closer borders. Unrelated but I spawned next to Paititi and it is baller af. edit: Holy hell those dark ages hurt! Just had one where 7/8 civs got dark ages and it is CHAOS. I was in the middle of stomping my way through Norway and Japan and everything around my army went free cities. Trying to fight my way back to my border to see if I can get any kind of loyalty going with the closest cities, because others I reconquered just flip back really quick. Chad Sexington fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Purely hypothetically, if one wanted a game with as much Rome as possible, which civs would one add as AI players? Rome, Byzantium.
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Rimusutera posted:Basil's introduction thing calls him King Basil and I'm loosing my poo poo. Should've called him Basileus Basil
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Looks like there's some kind of bug with the new Hippodrome. Not sure how it's done tho. Seems to have something to do with buying the district with gold/faith? Or buying instead of repairing?
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Byzantine posted:Rome, Byzantium. Also the Ottomans, Germany, and Russia
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logger posted:bar bar bar bar bar
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ScubaSteve2K10 posted:This is 440 units of production as a reward for building a 540+ production wonder. Certainly it's cheaper to slap in Agoge and hard build these units? I believe the units created by Statue of Zeus are maintenance free, I built it and I don't think my GPT went down, in fact it went up because of the extra 3. Besides, if you want to talk policy cards making things cheaper to build, just be Autocracy and have the extra production to wonders card from State Workforce civic. Monument to the Gods pantheon too, especially if you want to build other stuff. Of course, given that it also requires a Barracks in an Encampment, you're probably still right if all you want is the units, but it's also fun to build wonders. EDIT: I just had a thought, anyone tried building this as Greece yet? Would be pretty sick if it gave Hoplites instead of spearmen. Nucular Carmul fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Sep 25, 2020 |
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Canada joined an emergency against me and by the time I got down to him with my army he was down to 2/5 cities. He’d lost three to dark ages INCLUDING his capital. Just nuts. Dramatic ages are dramatic. I’ve managed to keep golden all game but I’m out of people to conquer on my continent so I’m a little worried now... Gaul is super fun but city placement is hosed. ESPECIALLY harbors. I thought it applies to aqueducts because I couldn’t build one but it turns out there was just 2 nitre in the spots I needed. That city needs neighborhoods.
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Voidsingers + Ethiopia is kind of crazy for stacking bonuses.
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Tom Tucker posted:Gaul is super fun but city placement is hosed. ESPECIALLY harbors. Also, the civ achievement for Gaul is killing a tank with your UU warrior replacement. Uhhhhhhh
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Decided to check for myself, Statue of Zeus does create Hoplites for Greece.
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Albino Squirrel posted:Wait, can you put neighbourhoods in the inner ring? Neighborhoods, Aqueducts and Dams are not specialty districts
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Albino Squirrel posted:Wait, can you put neighbourhoods in the inner ring? This is more doable than you think, although it'll require some fiddling around with the flanking, being near other units, some promotions, probably a great general. I've heard someone say, though I don't have proof, that you can get that UU to 100 strength.
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Albino Squirrel posted:Also, the civ achievement for Gaul is killing a tank with your UU warrior replacement. Uhhhhhhh A tank has 80 strength. Gaesatae 20 base +10 lower base attack +4 flanking +12 Leader bonus +17 army +10 urban warfare promotion (fighting in district) +5 great general = 78 combat strength.
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Albino Squirrel posted:
You haven't been playing civ very long have you? 
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Holy poo poo, Byzantium is insane. Dont bother with sanguine pact, your vampires can't keep up once the tagma train starts rolling
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Nucular Carmul posted:EDIT: I just had a thought, anyone tried building this as Greece yet? Would be pretty sick if it gave Hoplites instead of spearmen. Created units will always give the UU version if the UU replaces the normal unit in the line-up. I can't recall, but I think the only UU that doesn't replace the normal unit is the Maryannu Chariot Archer, which used to replace Heavy Chariot but was made a separate bonus unit in Gathering Storm.
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