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lifg posted:https://www.instagram.com/p/CFfMuTdnsTZ/?igshid=nkhd8modsj6b
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Honestly I wouldn't look at any comment section to figure out which way a country is leaning. Comment sections are where the most ignorant go to proudly show up how up their own arses they are. Most people wouldn't look at a DC post and think to themselves "this is my opportune time to show the world what I think about leftists".
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Sep 24, 2020 00:33
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He's definitely winning and it sucks.
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Sep 24, 2020 00:41
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Endless Mike posted:He's definitely winning and it sucks.
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Sep 24, 2020 00:55
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Endless Mike posted:He's definitely winning and it sucks.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:00
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Endless Mike posted:He's definitely winning and it sucks. After the past four years I can't imagine confidently predicting the outcome of any specific future political event.
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Mod edit: Edited out personal information.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:05
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Sanity Edit: I was in a Liberal CC JITTERS this afternoon and all the enbie ZillExials were whispering "I think Lex Luthor is pretty cool" FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Sep 24, 2020 |
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Sep 24, 2020 01:12
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I know these are really stressful and precarious times and I know I also definitely spend way too many of my waking hours running through worst case scenarios but there are other threads in other subs to do that in, and I think that trying, as legitimately difficult as it is, to compartmentalize this kind of stuff is healthy and worth attempting to do.
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Sep 24, 2020 01:39
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DC is more popular with conservative comic fans because Marvel is too liberal with all their minorities and women temporarily taking over for white men.
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Sep 24, 2020 22:28
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Open Marriage Night posted:DC is more popular with conservative comic fans because Marvel is too liberal with all their minorities and women temporarily taking over for white men. I don't think this is remotely true.
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Sep 25, 2020 05:02
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Blockhouse posted:I don't think this is remotely true. Not only is it true, it's been that way for decades.
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Sep 25, 2020 17:06
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I can attest, the racists assholes really hate modern Marvel.
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Sep 25, 2020 18:02
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It’s not like DC tries to court conservatives, it’s just Marvel has always tried to appeal to the cool college liberal since the Stan Lee days.
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Sep 25, 2020 20:53
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Open Marriage Night posted:It’s not like DC tries to court conservatives, it’s just Marvel has always tried to appeal to the cool college liberal since the Stan Lee days. Also DC did replace a lot of their new PoC characters with the old white guy originals a few years back.
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Sep 25, 2020 20:55
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Gripweed posted:Also DC did replace a lot of their new PoC characters with the old white guy originals a few years back.
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Sep 25, 2020 20:58
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Gen5 was a bad idea for other reasons, though. Seriously, they just finished jumping through how many hoops to undo all the damage Nu52 did, and the next plan was to play silly continuity games again?
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Sep 25, 2020 21:38
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I don't know if "conservatives love DC more than Marvel" is quantifiably true, but I'd like to read a study or survey or whatever if anything is out there because I think it's an interesting question. Anecdotally surely the Punisher is extremely popular with Blue Lives Matter types.
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Sep 25, 2020 21:57
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It’s definitely not a black and white thing. DC did publish Prez, and Flintstones, and let Morrison make Superman a socialist for a time. I wouldn’t mind seeing a study if there is one. I only have anecdotal evidence from my blue collar suburb a couple miles from Detroit.
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Sep 25, 2020 22:07
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CapnAndy posted:Gen5 was a bad idea for other reasons, though. Personally at this point I feel both DC and Marvel would be better off just hard rebooting their respective universes
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Sep 25, 2020 22:12
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drrockso20 posted:Personally at this point I feel both DC and Marvel would be better off just hard rebooting their respective universes
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Sep 25, 2020 22:21
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CapnAndy posted:It's an understandable impulse but it doesn't frigging work. The most workable solution seems to be legacy characters and just sharing the mantle; as it turns out, nobody is actually terribly confused if you go "yeah, there's a bunch of Flashes" or "they're both Hawkeye", and that way you can add all the new people you like. It's never actually been done is the problem, Marvel has never done a proper reboot and every time DC does one there's always stuff from the prior continuity they leave in that makes things confusing
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Sep 25, 2020 22:26
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drrockso20 posted:It's never actually been done is the problem, Marvel has never done a proper reboot and every time DC does one there's always stuff from the prior continuity they leave in that makes things confusing
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Sep 25, 2020 22:46
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Drakyn posted:Wasn't Ultimate Marvel basically this just without replacing the older stuff?
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Sep 25, 2020 23:04
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god could you imagine if the Ultimate Universe actually did replace the existing Marvel universe. what a loving disastrous nightmare that would have been
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Sep 25, 2020 23:08
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I read a bit of Ultimate Spider-Man, which I had heard was good, but wasn't. It focused so much on how being a superhero was actually terrible and made Peter's life really depressing. At one point they threw in a fun stand alone story about Wolverine and Peter Parker switching bodies, just to cheer things up. In which Wolverine used being in Peter Parker's body to make out with high school girls without them knowing who he really was. I'm glad they killed that Spider-man.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:18
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Gripweed posted:I read a bit of Ultimate Spider-Man, which I had heard was good, but wasn't. It focused so much on how being a superhero was actually terrible and made Peter's life really depressing. So Spider-Man?
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Sep 25, 2020 23:20
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bobkatt013 posted:So Spider-Man? At least regular Spider-Man is an adult and an established hero with hero connections and friends. Ultimate Spider-Man was a child. So when Nick Fury or whoever shows up and has a job for him, or when he teams up with the X-Men just laugh at the fact that he's just a little kid, it really makes it clear that oh yeah, he should not be doing this. Nobody should be giving him task or humoring him with his incredibly dangerous hobby. The whole thing was very hosed up.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:24
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Gripweed posted:At least regular Spider-Man is an adult and an established hero with hero connections and friends. Ultimate Spider-Man was a child. So when Nick Fury or whoever shows up and has a job for him, or when he teams up with the X-Men just laugh at the fact that he's just a little kid, it really makes it clear that oh yeah, he should not be doing this. Nobody should be giving him task or humoring him with his incredibly dangerous hobby. The whole thing was very hosed up. He started in high school in the regular universe, and the x-men are the same age as him.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:29
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Gripweed posted:I read a bit of Ultimate Spider-Man, which I had heard was good, but wasn't. It focused so much on how being a superhero was actually terrible and made Peter's life really depressing. At one point they threw in a fun stand alone story about Wolverine and Peter Parker switching bodies, just to cheer things up. In which Wolverine used being in Peter Parker's body to make out with high school girls without them knowing who he really was. That's a gross exaggeration of what actually happened.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:39
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Rhyno posted:That's a gross exaggeration of what actually happened. It's been a few years since I read it so maybe I've exaggerated how grim it was in my mind, but that was definitely what stuck out to me while I read it and it's why I stopped reading it when Gwen Stacy got brutally murdered.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:56
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She got better.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:58
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There’s an implication he tried to gently caress / fool around with teenage MJ while in Peter’s body.
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Sep 25, 2020 23:58
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Rhyno posted:That's a gross exaggeration of what actually happened. What did happen? That sounds like character assassination of Ultimate Wolverine, but maybe that's consistent with Wolverine in the Ultimate universe?
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Sep 26, 2020 00:03
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A Strange Aeon posted:What did happen? That sounds like character assassination of Ultimate Wolverine, but maybe that's consistent with Wolverine in the Ultimate universe? Ultimate wolverine already banged a barely legal jean grey after attempting to murder cyclops
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Sep 26, 2020 00:09
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Drakyn posted:Wasn't Ultimate Marvel basically this just without replacing the older stuff? Nah doesn't count, that one was an alternate universe, not the main one
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Sep 26, 2020 00:10
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A Strange Aeon posted:What did happen? That sounds like character assassination of Ultimate Wolverine, but maybe that's consistent with Wolverine in the Ultimate universe?   Wow, Mark. I'd forgotten that face he puts on Logan-as-Peter in the first page. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Sep 26, 2020 00:25
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Yeah, some of the Ultimate characters were either lovely people (Captain America, Wolverine, Hank Pym) or needlessly edgy and gross (Wanda and Pietro)
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Quality aside -- and there was some excellent stuff besides USM, X-Men was good to great for a long while and even Fantastic Four started strong -- the Ultimate Universe ended up just proving exactly why hard reboots don't work, even though they seem great on paper: those stories still happened, people remember and like them, and that includes the writers. So what ends up happening is everyone's gotta go back and hit the iconic bits again. They want to do Ultimate Clone Saga, Ultimate Annihilus, Ultimate Sentinels, Ultimate Gwen Stacy, Ultimate Dark Phoenix, Ultimate Galactus, Ultimate Skrulls, Ultimate Demon in a Bottle, again and again, until it's just a mind-numbing march of constant retreads. And the solution to that is obvious, sure -- don't do that. Write new stories. But that was always the answer. Write a new story! loving around with continuity is being focused on the past, practically by definition! Hickman didn't need to wipe out the last 60 years to write HoXPoX, he just said "okay, that stuff happened, it's all done, this is what they're doing now". I don't want to trivialize it, but... that's the solution. Just write the next thing.
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I'm shocked that Gripweed doesn't like the good Spider-Man that doesn't include a fighting tournament or volleyball.
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