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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

You can rename titles at will, there's a little feather pen icon thing in the top left if you click on the title itself. No idea how that collides with the Islamic dynasty naming stuff though.

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Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Specifically it happens if you are (a) a clan government and (b) the head of your dynasty. In this case your primary title gets your dynasty name. At least, that's according to the wiki.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Insta-winning a war by capturing the enemy monarch still feels like cheating lol

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Insta-winning a war by capturing the enemy monarch still feels like cheating lol



My favorite power-move is to plan a kidnap plot and declare right before the actual kidnap event. You can win wars without bothering to raise an army.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
How do I avoid the situation where my current heir isn’t part of my dynasty? This seems to happen every time I convert to a custom religion with equal gender laws/norms. It’s pretty frustrating and I can’t really tell where along the line I made the “mistake” of proposing a marriage which would result in a non dynasty heir.

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003

buglord posted:

How do I avoid the situation where my current heir isn’t part of my dynasty? This seems to happen every time I convert to a custom religion with equal gender laws/norms. It’s pretty frustrating and I can’t really tell where along the line I made the “mistake” of proposing a marriage which would result in a non dynasty heir.

It happened to me when I made my faith equal gender laws, and my first daughter was normal married. If you want your faith to be equal then you really have to be on top of your kids.


This has to be the best attempt at painting a realm in this game so far.

Hryme
Nov 4, 2009

Promethium posted:

This video isn't directly related to CK3 but I thought it might make an interesting bit of dynastic scorekeeping -- there is a strictly matrilineal house that has held an astonishing number of kingdom titles in Europe, including such famous monarchs as Louis XIV, Catherine the Great, and Victoria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl4WtajjMks

Really interesting. Usefulcharts is a very good channel.

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
haven't played for a few weeks. just set my daughter up as queen of hungary when i misread her claim, thought it was for a single county lol.

i feel like when you press claims for people that make them independent, they should become your ally but eh whatever, ill take the bonus renown i suppose.

Doobie Keebler
May 9, 2005

Dareon posted:

So one thing I like to do regarding historical games is learn interesting trivia about the times and places. That, coupled with the ineffable youtube algorithms, gave me the recommendation for the channel Tasting History, where a dude makes a recipe from an old cookbook and tells you a bit about the history around the recipe. Some of them seem pretty tasty, others... less so.

This was from a few pages back but I started watching this guy's videos and they're pretty cool. Thanks!

ElectronicOldMen
Jun 18, 2018

buglord posted:

How do I avoid the situation where my current heir isn’t part of my dynasty? This seems to happen every time I convert to a custom religion with equal gender laws/norms. It’s pretty frustrating and I can’t really tell where along the line I made the “mistake” of proposing a marriage which would result in a non dynasty heir.

Having messed around with equal and female dominated I would have to say that at the moment they just aren't worth it. Even if you stay completely on top of your own heirs, your AI vassals will continue to make terrible marriages potentially losing lands to other kingdoms. Luckily the AI is terrible at making marriages in general.

Marriage AI is one of the things I hope they fix with the first patch, that way there will be more sexy sterile grandmas for me.

BurntCornMuffin
Jan 9, 2009


I do hope one of the future patches does something about the music situation. I do like it, and the context sensitive feature is cool, but I do miss some of the tracks that really grab out at you from CK2, and looking at the soundtrack playlist on youtube, there's a lot of good content I don't even hear, which is a shame. The tracks that turn up as a result of an event could hang around longer too, so I can listen to them for more than a few seconds.

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003

Blimpkin posted:

It happened to me when I made my faith equal gender laws, and my first daughter was normal married. If you want your faith to be equal then you really have to be on top of your kids.


This has to be the best attempt at painting a realm in this game so far.


Krete, stop this, you're an island

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003

BabyFur Denny posted:

Krete, stop this, you're an island

Yeah I’m not sure how Krete managed to own so much land but more power to them. I’m the head of my own faith and directly own Britannia.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


My first game I was a duke in the ERE and conquered krete just because it’s a 2 county kingdom. Then I found out how bad it is to have your capital outside of your realm title’s de jure territory.

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003

yikes! posted:

My first game I was a duke in the ERE and conquered krete just because it’s a 2 county kingdom. Then I found out how bad it is to have your capital outside of your realm title’s de jure territory.

Oh it's a Kingdom? Is it a Greek kingdom? That's gonna make the achievement much easier

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I somehow am only now encountering my first truly infuriating partition succession issue. For some reason the game has decided it must allocate all-except-one county to my son, who I have gone so far as to make an independent king. He doesn't need more titles god drat it.

e: oh god, and now that it's happened, he apparently has a strong hook on me because I am a witch. Witchcraft is allowed under our religion so I don't know what that's all about, but I can't even declare war on him!

e2: The Swedes have the Elephantry institution somehow...

PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Sep 26, 2020

panascope
Mar 26, 2005

"I would've castrated the Pope, but it would've made me have a nervous breakdown." feels like an appropriately Crusader Kings thing to say.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

Was just a sterile six year old. Survived a civil war by choicely marrying off my bastard brother to the princess of Sweden. My heir was in another dynasty though, so I wound up studying intrigue just to pull off the murders needed to get my inheritance back in my name. Stated at a calendar waiting for my 16th birthday before I could I kick off the murder scheme.

I turn 16. I hit the murder button and have a 30% chance. And the next day my two non dynasty heirs are killed in a siege.

My little sterile boy king is blessed by god

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Seriously is there any way to clear someone having a strong hook on you? I would be happy to expose my own secret he's apparently used to blackmail me if I could, but that does seem to be an option?

Because there seems to be absolutely nothing I can do to retake the counties he got thanks to that, and that's dumb as hell. I'll even give him his Kingdom title back that he lost due to his own incompetency!

Digital Osmosis
Nov 10, 2002

Smile, Citizen! Happiness is Mandatory.

I've also seen Krete go nuts a couple of times. Once when I wasn't paying attention it grabbed half of anatolia and drat near all of egypt. It must be because it has a Kingdom title, right? OTOH I don't usually see Cyprus get so crazy as often. Maybe Cyprus is big enough to have internal politics while Krete is small enough that whoever holds it can expand at their leisure?

One of the two or three times the Mighty Minoans Revival happened I had turned Krete into a kingdom-level merchant republic and so a shocking huge section of the map was suddenly republican, that was fun.

Anyway I don't mind it actually because I lived for half a year near Chania so Krete inexplicably blobbing always makes me smile. Good on you, Krete!

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

The more I play the 867 scenario the more I'm convinced the rules for the tribal era are completely broken. Even if you manage to play a line of geniuses from start to finish, it is literally impossible to start as a tribe, feudalize, and reach parity with the 1066 starting position before 1100.

Meanwhile the border gore is absolutely out of control. Here we see West Francia having figured out the One Weird Trick of giving all it's kingdom titles their own succession laws so they never get partitioned, meanwhile I don't even want to know what happened to England.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

I acquired a primer on African history and unfortunately there was like three pages on this era of Subsaharan Africa? The book only starts going into detail after everyone converts to Islam

The big players we have the most detail about in this period are Mali and Kanem-Bornu, both of which were converts to Islam.

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


It seems impossible to Great Holy War the catholics if they somehow hold together. Just tried to Great Holy War Rome with my custom religion and as soon as you land you're attacked by 100k troops acting in perfect union to blob you.

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---
If you capture people during a war and then the war ends, are they auto-released from your prison? Right now when I'm at 100% warscore I ransom the prisoners to get all the money, and then I enforce my demands :getin:

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

PittTheElder posted:

Seriously is there any way to clear someone having a strong hook on you? I would be happy to expose my own secret he's apparently used to blackmail me if I could, but that does seem to be an option?

Because there seems to be absolutely nothing I can do to retake the counties he got thanks to that, and that's dumb as hell. I'll even give him his Kingdom title back that he lost due to his own incompetency!

I don't think anything can clear a strong hook other than one of the two involved people dying. You might have to wait until you die to unfuck this situation.

shut up blegum posted:

If you capture people during a war and then the war ends, are they auto-released from your prison? Right now when I'm at 100% warscore I ransom the prisoners to get all the money, and then I enforce my demands :getin:

It auto-releases them if their captivity has an effect on the warscore but otherwise you keep them.

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

Tempted to vassalize the pope and then exile him to Socotra or something

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Playing the tutorial. My idiot son Brian went to a dueling spree because he wanted to be a blademaster. He went dueling while wounded. Well then some dude beat him and he went to severely wounded, then dead. RIP. At least he had two very young children and I have one child too so things could be worse.

Ihmemies fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Sep 26, 2020

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003

Ihmemies posted:

Playing the tutorial. My idiot son Brian went to a dueling spree because he wanted to be a blademaster. He went dueling while wounded. Well then some dude beat him and he went to severely wounded, then dead. RIP. At least he had two very young children and I have one child too so things could be worse.

It's not the worst, because usually when I play the tutorial I try to skip over Brian and make a new heir with better qualities. My ideal succession is King to Grandson, with them hopefully already of age.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

PittTheElder posted:

e: oh god, and now that it's happened, he apparently has a strong hook on me because I am a witch. Witchcraft is allowed under our religion so I don't know what that's all about, but I can't even declare war on him!

I think this happens if you are a witch before it becomes legal (either because you converted to a religion where it is allowed or the religion was reformed). Logically you'd think that once it's legal you would automatically stop keeping it a secret and get the witch trait, but that doesn't seem to happen, it only happens if you become a witch after it is considered allowed. So the game just keeps considering it a secret that gives people a strong hook on you. I'm assuming it's a bug, because I can't see that working as intended.

If you participate in a feast you can also get the event where you accidentally reveal your witchcraft practicing ways and give them a hook on you that way, even though both follow a religion that allows witchcraft. I hope it gets fixed in the next patch.

Dallan Invictus
Oct 11, 2007

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.

Ihmemies posted:

Playing the tutorial. My idiot son Brian went to a dueling spree because he wanted to be a blademaster. He went dueling while wounded. Well then some dude beat him and he went to severely wounded, then dead. RIP. At least he had two very young children and I have one child too so things could be worse.

My idiot heir who accidentally killed his younger brother in that event chain (complete with Murderer and Kinslayer traits!) says It Could Absolutely Have Been Worse.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Great. I actually don't know how to play this game though. I granted Athlone and Dublin to Brian's daughter (so my granddaughter) for some reason. I made duchy of Meath but seems I can't grant it to my granddaughter because I need to be the king of Ireland first.. and I need 500 gold for that.

Maybe it is not a good idea to give land and titles to a daughter but whatever this is a tutorial.

It will take 4½ years to save money to form Ireland. Man I want to make money faster.. but improvements are also super expensive.

Ihmemies fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Sep 26, 2020

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Can you go fight some scrubs without breaking your bank paying troops? Ransoms from prisoners are ok.

Better is the Wealth focus lifestyle, which is a straight +10% income bonus. The first perk in the tree let's you demand (large amounts of) money for hooks, which can be obtained by using your spymaster to search for secrets and blackmailing people. Also in that tree is Extort Subjects which is very good if you need cash.

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003

Ihmemies posted:

Great. I actually don't know how to play this game though. I granted Athlone and Dublin to Brian's daughter (so my granddaughter) for some reason. I made duchy of Meath but seems I can't grant it to my granddaughter because I need to be the king of Ireland first.. and I need 500 gold for that.

Maybe it is not a good idea to give land and titles to a daughter but whatever this is a tutorial.

It will take 4½ years to save money to form Ireland. Man I want to make money faster.. but improvements are also super expensive.

Yeah you might want to get those back. Keep an eye on the top right number, that’s your domain limit. If you’re at 1/6 or 2/5, you might want to consider solidifying your position and holding them all directly.

The knock on benefit is that you get more levies, gold, and prestige. Once you are High King, you can hand out dukedoms no problem, but before then if any of your vassals get enough money or army they will come after independence so they can create their title, should they own the de jure territory for the title.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

What. I called a hunt, and during it my spymaster wanted to tell a secret. Well the secret was that she was loving my nephew Cennetig!! So I got to secrets where my nephew and my spymaster (both unmarried!!) were having sex outside marriage.

I got them married right afterwards... like, why not if they really like each other.

Blimpkin posted:

Yeah you might want to get those back. Keep an eye on the top right number, that’s your domain limit. If you’re at 1/6 or 2/5, you might want to consider solidifying your position and holding them all directly.

The knock on benefit is that you get more levies, gold, and prestige. Once you are High King, you can hand out dukedoms no problem, but before then if any of your vassals get enough money or army they will come after independence so they can create their title, should they own the de jure territory for the title.

I see. Well my limit is 3/6 so I can just take them back. I'm sure my granddaughter doesn't mind. Seemes she turned up to be a sadistic, gluttonous dishonorable villain.

Ihmemies fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Sep 26, 2020

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003

Ihmemies posted:

What. I called a hunt, and during it my spymaster wanted to tell a secret. Well the secret was that she was loving my nephew Cennetig!! So I got to secrets where my nephew and my spymaster (both unmarried!!) were having sex outside marriage.

I got them married right afterwards... like, why not if they really like each other.


I see. Well my limit is 3/6 so I can just take them back. I'm sure my granddaughter doesn't mind.
Use your bishop to fabricate claims on both, and then revoke. If you do with out claims you incur tyranny. If they revolt, win the war and they are imprisoned and cannot say no. If they are in prison but you don't have claims, you'll still incur tyranny. That's the land grab loop.

swampcow
Jul 4, 2011

I just want a university and a fortress. That's all I want. And maybe all of France. Whats a good way to convert a county's culture?

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

Blimpkin posted:

Use your bishop to fabricate claims on both, and then revoke. If you do with out claims you incur tyranny. If they revolt, win the war and they are imprisoned and cannot say no. If they are in prison but you don't have claims, you'll still incur tyranny. That's the land grab loop.


Seems I can try to scheme to murder my granddaughter too. The 2nd granddaughter seems to be a better person... :v:

PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.

Ihmemies posted:

I got them married right afterwards... like, why not if they really like each other.

Well, this game is a dating simulator first and foremost, so I think this was the right course of action.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

swampcow posted:

I just want a university and a fortress. That's all I want. And maybe all of France. Whats a good way to convert a county's culture?

With your Steward.

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Zig-Zag
Aug 29, 2007

Why don't we just start shooting tar heroin instead?
I got the avenge the battle of tours decision in my last game. Didn't do much considering the hre and England are the last two catholic countries in my game. Barely 40 years in and I already own all of Spain and France. Thinking about putting my dynasty on the thrones of France and making them independent next.

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