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Sockser posted:I've just finished the second TPB of the comic so it was neat to see a bunch of little cameos here, although I can't remember the name of the guy who throws up and he's minor enough to not be listed on wikipedia Blowchowski, and he is mentioned on Wiki.
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Sep 26, 2020 08:06
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Having your super power be acidic vomit that you’re note immune is a real bummer
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Sep 26, 2020 08:26
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Martman posted:I would be seriously worried that if Homelander gets convinced he's fixed his own internal problems with relationships, he might think he and his lady are good enough parents and don't need Becca around anymore. One of the key things with Superman analogues to explore is the idea of upbringing. Superman grew up with humility and kindness because the Kents tried their hardest to make sure he'd be a good, responsible person, with different adaptations varying on exactly how but the result tends to work out. (Also comes to mind that Brightburn seems more like 'if Superman was a Saiyan', though I'm not sure that was on purpose. The spaceship brainwashing him to conquer the planet and all) Homelander, though? He's basically raised by a corporation to be a comfortable, privileged white American man, a shoo-in for a celebrity and leader. Of course he's an overgrown child with horrifying levels of power and little if any concept of consequences or ability to relate to anyone else.
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Sep 26, 2020 08:30
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Homelander, though? He's basically raised by a corporation to be a comfortable, privileged white American man, a shoo-in for a celebrity and leader. Of course he's an overgrown child with horrifying levels of power and little if any concept of consequences or ability to relate to anyone else. And even then he was raised in a lab. Even the most privileged and spoiled little emperor has had some human contact. Homelander had zilch.
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Sep 26, 2020 09:33
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davidspackage posted:I felt so bad and embarrassed for Homelander when it turned out the surprise he had for Stormfront was some really cheesy flowers... and a really impersonal card. Yet he's like kind of proud of it - he's making a genuine effort, but he's so emotionally stunted this is the best he's got. You don't need to spoil things now the episode has aired. I'm also in two minds about how Butcher reacted when Hughie got hurt. There was a little bit of whiplash at how his demeanour flipped like a lightbulb the moment he realised Hughie was hurt, but on the whole I think it shows how much Butcher has closed off and compartmentalised his personality - he's gruff and dismissive up until the point at which it actually matters, at which point the unnecessary facade gets dropped. We've also always known that Butcher does actually care about Hughie, which is why he takes an enormous risk to save him from Homelander.
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Sep 26, 2020 09:55
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When Butcher was buying a dog toy for Terror, they had plushie versions of the 7 on the shelf and The Deeps one was on clearance
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Sep 26, 2020 10:04
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Z the IVth posted:And even then he was raised in a lab. Even the most privileged and spoiled little emperor has had some human contact. Homelander had zilch. They kept trying to give him teachers and carers but he kept hug-murdering them lol
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Sep 26, 2020 10:34
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Subtle joke: "I need to go read lines with Black Noir" Also I'm 90% that Stormfront is gonna die before Homelander, 50% that he's the one who's going to kill her. I dont think shes making it to the end but shes put Ideas in his head that are going to be consequential.
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Sep 26, 2020 10:34
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The Gore when the guy burns on face with acid was gross. Very very bloody episode. You could tell that this episode, we are Nazi and the guy in the American flag gently caress while covered in the criminals blood, was very clearly written by the guys who made sausage party. That shines through in some of the more absurdist stuff.
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Sep 26, 2020 10:34
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Z the IVth posted:And even then he was raised in a lab. Even the most privileged and spoiled little emperor has had some human contact. Homelander had zilch. I've mentioned it before, but in the comics Vought literally raised him on top of a nuclear bomb. And made it very clear to him that if he ever had any normal childish outburst, or did anything that made them think they couldn't control him, they'd detonate it and even if he didn't die literally everyone and everything he knew would be vaporised. It's really no surprise he's messed up. Also enjoyed: - "Got to run lines with Black Noir" - The genuine happiness that came to The Deep's face when he tried to talk about fish again before being reminded nobody cares. - I thought Carjack guy reciting the mantra of "This is a stand-your-ground state!" before getting killed was a nice bit of subtle political messaging. jabby fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Sep 26, 2020 |
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Sep 26, 2020 10:54
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Edgar had the same footage of the boys in the yatch that the church lady showed Deep , so it might be him pulling the strings. Im hoping for Ashley personally. Also still the best bit of non verbal caracterization is MM watching outlander on his laptop. I love how earnest stormfront emotes on the "im a national socialist of the hitler kind" moment, like someone who finally came out. Shes just so tired of hiding that shes a nazi. i hope a-train decks her in the schnoz
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Sep 26, 2020 11:39
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Alchenar posted:You don't need to spoil things now the episode has aired. The carjacking scene was genuinely gross and depressing but I really loved how it reflects the show's commitment to its characters and the realities of violence; Butcher is genuinely a bad person who happens to have enemies far worse than him, and there's no such thing as safe violence. I love that the show is calling out other comic booky media stuff and specifically Whedon; for me it's not just a matter of dialogue or style, but the way the Marvel stuff combines some BS sense of realism (through dry, cynical banter) with violence also being mostly a completely controlled exercise. In this show the simplest use of powers might result in an unintended death, even one that doesn't have some big dramatic arc to it.
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Sep 26, 2020 11:56
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I read Elena's reaction to the video and what Maeve said as "I'm not this mad that you were a coward in that moment and let all those people die, I'm this mad that you have the evidence to atone and you're still such a coward that all you can think of is yourself (and me, by extension)" But that's reading a lot from a little since the character isn't thoroughly developed.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:09
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Thank you for being a trans... Man, this show really made me miss that lovely old youtube series, The Golden Shower Girls. Since Disney is just the loving worst, it's been scrubbed from the Internet as far as I can tell because nobody on pain of death may make fun of their IP, except for this badass clip. For anybody who's never seen it and/or the show, enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dApzCHXpw0 P.S.: I'm halfway suspicious that somebody on the writing staff watched it, and that's why they overtly referenced The Golden Shower Girls directly in relation to the Golden Girls, and also back when it would have still been available on Youtube. Ten cool points (not redeemable under any circumstance) if you can find a backup of said Youtube show someplace, intact.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:14
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Martman posted:I fuckin loved the flowers + note moment, Homelander is utterly a child and it's played so convincingly that it manages to be tragic that he's murdering innocent people and banging Nazis Oh, Starr played it perfectly. Going from pride, to worry, to anxiety, to embarrassment, to terror, to anger, to rage...cut to explosion aftermath. A lot of that was pretty relatable at the start to when you were just starting being in relationships back in school and having no idea what you were supposed to do, what would be too much, what would maybe get you laughed at, what was maybe all in your head, and then add in the fact that he's a sociopath with arrested development and the whole thing was escalated to 11. He was stuck inside his head, and HIS head is a terrifying place to be. It was a great little scene, and Starr was perfect in it.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:26
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I liked the flower arrangement , it was tacky but very sincere. I was suprised to see him even try to be romantic like that. The message was appropriate for a colleague your loving but you are not yet in a settled relationship, but you are hoping for more. I would ask a professional to compose the boquet, and absolutely choose a different vase, but the message on the card seems like something i could have written. Earlier i was wondering about the significance of SF/Liberty being drunk of her rear end when she beat that black man to death in the 70`s. But ofcourse it must have been when her husband had just died. A lot of the Nazi-leadership died in the late 70`s to early 80`s from natural causes. So that would make sense. Grieving, Drunk and angry. Feels very human and relateable in a way. I would compare it to how Hitler was humanzied but not excused or made insignicant in "Der untergang". Stomfront`s coming out speech was also great. I if did`nt know anything about american or european history i would probably read that scene as genuinly heroic. Perfectly acted; SF`s completely sold on her own bullshit. The words spoken are horrible, but the music, ligthing, the tone of voice, and beyond all the body language are all saying" Awesome, this the great hero". The contrast creates quite a interesting emotional effect.
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Sep 26, 2020 13:56
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I really want to know what's up with Edgar now. Does he know about SF's intensions for Vought? He said before that Vought isn't a superhero company, it's a pharmaceutical company. Now SF, who I'm guessing has controlling interest in the company due to being married to the now dead founder, is saying it's a super nazi army generator company. Also, Edgar is clearly not white. I wonder if SF is just using him the way Republicans use people like Ben Carson. If SF actually creates a nazi army would she throw Edgar in an oven or would he be the token "one of the good ones" for PR purposes?
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Sep 26, 2020 14:11
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thrawn527 posted:Oh, Starr played it perfectly. Going from pride, to worry, to anxiety, to embarrassment, to terror, to anger, to rage...cut to explosion aftermath. A lot of that was pretty relatable at the start to when you were just starting being in relationships back in school and having no idea what you were supposed to do, what would be too much, what would maybe get you laughed at, what was maybe all in your head, and then add in the fact that he's a sociopath with arrested development and the whole thing was escalated to 11. He was stuck inside his head, and HIS head is a terrifying place to be. It was a great little scene, and Starr was perfect in it. Yeah it's great how he can flip from being narcissistic to being tragic in the same scene. Or all the false bravado that defines the character.
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Sep 26, 2020 14:34
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Ridiculous Edgar theory: He's Vought after getting some old world war 2 era soup nazi to Get Out him.
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Sep 26, 2020 14:35
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The emails on Stormfront computer about Sage Grove were direct from Stan Edgar himself, so he is definitely in on the scheme to purify compound V to be able to be used on Adults. Pharmaceutical company to its core.
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Sep 26, 2020 14:44
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Nuebot posted:Ridiculous Edgar theory: He's Vought after getting some old world war 2 era soup nazi to Get Out him. Edgar is actually Black Gay Hitler.
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Sep 26, 2020 14:48
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*searching your face for approval* “Isn’t it lit?”
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Sep 26, 2020 14:51
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ZearothK posted:Edgar is actually Black Gay Hitler. And the show suddenly becomes Mother Night
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Sep 26, 2020 14:57
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lol if edgar has doppelganger powers and just transforms into Hitler near the end
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Sep 26, 2020 15:00
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To be slightly more serious though I think Edgar not being cast white might just be for two reasons: A; in a series that generally speaks about corporate and social evils at the higher levels and how it spreads out to harm basically everyone like some kind of lovely octopus it might just be pointing out that it isn't strictly about race, that anyone can be a corporate monster and support the worst loving things regardless of who they are or where they come from in the name of power and wealth. And B; Giancarlo Esposito can play one hell of a business man  .
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Sep 26, 2020 15:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBkAi-giu-g
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Sep 26, 2020 15:31
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BurritoJustice posted:The emails on Stormfront computer about Sage Grove were direct from Stan Edgar himself, so he is definitely in on the scheme to purify compound V to be able to be used on Adults. Pharmaceutical company to its core. Oh yeah it's clear he's in on the secret project but does he know that Stormfront wants to use the results to make a super nazi army instead of whatever Edgar thinks they're going to be used for? I also also thinking about the church. They're clearly trying to use Deep and A-Train to gain some sort of leverage with Vought but we don't know why yet. They keep telling Deep and A-Train "we'll get you back on the 7" but I don't think they mean the current 7. I think they want to somehow take over Vought and install their own 7 who are all brainwashed cult member supes. Probably gain global influence like in Assassin's Creed or some poo poo. But Stormfront mentioned the church she used to go to as a kid and how they let "the wrong people" in and that makes me question: - Was Stormfront talking about the church of the collective? I feel like her mentioning a church isn't a coincidence. - If she was talking about the church of the collective, there are 2 conflicting options here: (1) - The current Vought isn't really a secret nazi company, it's a relatively neutral pharma company and none of the top execs have a nazi agenda. That means that the church might be where all the actual nazis went, but that would mean that (2) the current church isn't the same nazi party as it was in the 40s because they're clearly allowing minorities to join. But then again Vought only hires 7 members based on marketing stats so I guess the church could be doing exactly the same thing. Just trying to use a diverse group of supes as pawns to gain money and power.
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Sep 26, 2020 15:46
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Nuebot posted:To be slightly more serious though I think Edgar not being cast white might just be for two reasons: A; in a series that generally speaks about corporate and social evils at the higher levels and how it spreads out to harm basically everyone like some kind of lovely octopus it might just be pointing out that it isn't strictly about race, that anyone can be a corporate monster and support the worst loving things regardless of who they are or where they come from in the name of power and wealth. And B; Giancarlo Esposito can play one hell of a business man Take it from a guy who has worked at three separate places as the only black man (or person of color, period) in a leadership position: the response is probably closer to the one HL gave when asked about the lack of diversity of the Seven (or other Vought-made super heroes), or whenever people ask if the U.S. is racist and some white dude mentions Obama. It's the "I have a black friend" of corporate diversity. It's supposed to be a modern corp, despite its background. Of course, it's clearer now who has the real power in the company. ----- Random bits: - I agree with a few posters here who suggested that the Scientologist story seems destined for season 3 rather than this season. - Again, there is some good-rear end acting going on here. Starr and Cash nailed their scenes. - All of the advertising stuff is hilariously cringe-inducing and I love it. - Loved the Lamplighter stuff. I am not certain how sincere Stormfront is during the scene where she reveals her truth to HL, but it seems pretty genuine (if not, she's a genius). I don't think HL gave a poo poo about what she had to say until she mentioned not wanting to be lonely anymore. She hit him in his most vulnerable spot, which--all things considered--might be her weak spot as well. In this reading, him having a kid might gently caress with her. We all know she isn't surviving the season, though.
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Sep 26, 2020 15:49
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moist turtleneck posted:lol if edgar has doppelganger powers and just transforms into Hitler near the end Nah he came up on the Street.
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Sep 26, 2020 15:49
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Guys, have we considered that Stormfront still might not be a Nazi (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 26, 2020 15:50
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I think stormfront was talking about going to church in general, though i wouldnt be suprised if she just converted to mormonism when she came to the US and stopped going in the 70's. Ya know, when they started letting all the wrong kind of people in.
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Sep 26, 2020 15:52
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If you'll notice, she never actually said Adolf Hitler or her opinions about him
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Sep 26, 2020 15:54
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Nuebot posted:it isn't strictly about race Then again, Stormfront doesn't exactly meet the Aryan standards. Then again, neither did Hitler? I still think Edgar is destined to meet a brutal end. Also, there's something hilarious about Stormfront picking a super obvious password on her computer. That's a total grandma thing to do.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:06
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Racism's never been about any real kind of logic or evidence, it's a purely subjective thing that's bent and loopholed without a thought when convenient. Fascists gladly welcome and use quislings, they understand them as useful and disposable.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:26
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Elephant Ambush posted:
I mean from her early 1900s german pov, this was probably impure people, the Polish, insufficently Calvinist, etc. Assuming she's not just being a massive racist bitch to needle him.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:29
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presumably edgar tolerates stormfront because the prospective long-term value of an improved compound v injection is worth the inconvenience of enabling a literal nazi. corporate leadership doesn't care about the source of the injections or the harm it will cause so long as it is guaranteed to make a profit off of it. vought is, as edgar himself said, a pharmaceutical company. money trumps all.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:32
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QuoProQuid posted:presumably edgar tolerates stormfront because the prospective long-term value of an improved compound v injection is worth the inconvenience of enabling a literal nazi. corporate leadership doesn't care about the source of the injections or the harm it will cause so long as it is guaranteed to make a profit off of it. Nah, there's Edgar's age, his position in the company, his knowledge of Vought's true history, his close connection to Stormfront and collaboration on the Compound-V research, all point to him being at least a little bit of a Nazi. I don't think Stormfront is making up the fact that Vought's secret goal is world domination and I don't think that's inconsistent with Edgar saying that the core of Vought's business model is Compound V. Stormfront and Edgar collaborating on making an adult-safe version of Compound V means they are aligned on what the corporation is doing, and if they succeed then Edgar gets to join the supe master-race. They might have different goals, but I still think it's open that they currently are aligned and might be moving apart. One possibility - if Edgar actually knew Vought and worked with him to build the company then that would make him lifelong friends with Stormfront. She did not reveal that connection to Homelander, which might be deliberate or accidental implication.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:46
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jabby posted:- I thought Carjack guy reciting the mantra of "This is a stand-your-ground state!" before getting killed was a nice bit of subtle political messaging. I wouldn't exactly call it subtle, also the dude was completely in the right. The best case scenario is that he gets stranded in the middle of nowhere with no car, and there is a non-zero chance he just gets straight up killed.
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Sep 26, 2020 16:59
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We're all assuming Stormfront is a the majority share holder of Vought right?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Racism's never been about any real kind of logic or evidence, it's a purely subjective thing that's bent and loopholed without a thought when convenient.
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